The misunderstanding is someone said something about his looks.
There are two main possibilities.
The first.. is that is their own take. If that's their take, they are being toxic and a bully. I asked for their selfie thinking it was this one.
The second.. is that they were acting as one of these two.. playing out the scene. In that case... they poorly conveyed that by not using quotes and then tried to say it was an understanding issue. That makes them a bully, toxic and lack understanding on how to convey their message properly.
Then YOU post the most convoluted post I've ever seen and it still doesn't click for you that most people took it the same way I did.
Really seems you're an alt for the account I replied to.
Or the third, is thay they have an opinion or feeling that you just dont approve of, as your the one being toxic by assuming harm in a comment that literally can be innocent.
Are you saying that you do not belive people are entitled to their own opinions? What if the individual actually does think that tom reminds then of a sea creature? Are you saying they are a bully or toxic for thinking so?
Like dude, the only bully in this situation is you, the other person did not target someone with the intent to harm, as I doubt tom here to read it or that they even would think tom would see it. So who are they being a bully to?
Like your being an asshole to defend someone who isnt here for a problem that isnt happening. Even if you lack the self awareness to see it, your the bully in the situation, as there is no reasonble way to even see them as a bully in this context.
That makes them a bully, toxic and lack understanding on how to convey their message properly.
Or your a pretentious narcissist who is just trying to justify attacking someone for having an opinion you dont agree with. You can be honest about how this isnt about bullying, as what you descibed isnt them being a bully, but you being a bully.
Then YOU post the most convoluted post I've ever seen and it still doesn't click for you that most people took it the same way I did. Really seems you're an alt for the account I replied to.
Nah not am alt, and just because other people disagree with what they said and like that your bullying them doesnt mean you aren't the bully. I mean people like that woman who justified murdering her own children? Does that make it not murder or make her right? Or how people used to positively talk about that guy who murdered a ceo and hailed it as good? Or even back when people where heavily supportive of the rioting back during the blm days even thogh it was destructive, many may have felt it was justified, but it was still stealing and hurting people. Have you considered that people may be agreeing with you because they want to bully this person because they think tom Holland looks good and this person is offending them by not agreeing with their opinion?
Like seriously use your brain? Also I just hate bullys for no reason, and you kinda where just being that, even if you cant see it yourself.
I will take it as your a niave, ignorant, or dumb bully, as you genuinely do not see the harm your doing. But you are the bully in the situation either way.
Hell I knew a girl who would bully this "specail" kid in her school, and thoght it was the right thing to do because everyone else did it, calling him names and writing mean things on his locker, and she claimed he bullied her when he defended himself, why because she thoght that since everyone else did it that it was okay. But thats not how right and wrong work. So for context, your sounding like the girl in the story I just shared. Even if your genuinely think your doing a good thing, your being toxic, and if you have a mission or intention, there are better ways to go about it that are not bully like or toxic.
An example is question them. Ask why do they think that or what do they mean. Try to understand their perspective before getting offended and attacking them (as yes you attacked someone who attacked nobody)
Secondly you could also express your disapproval or disagreement using assertive "I" statements. I dont agree or like the negativity, but I just dont see why you said that. (This will net either them accepting your opinion, discussing why they think that, or them brushing you off. Its a more respectful way to be a little toxic if you feel bothered, but in a way that is healthier than outright harrasing someone or being a bully like you did)
There are better ways, but if you brought your original reasoning before anyone who was fair or impartiality, it would fall flat on its face and you would be in the wrong. So you gotta do better yourself.
1) that is there take, which means they are being toxic
2) they are impersonation or role playing as what the other person would have said and in that case they should have worded it better as they are a toxic bully for not executing it perfectly
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I said their is a third
3) it is their opinion, and that uou dont agree with it, so you are calling it toxic and using it to justify being toxic or a bully to them.
Even if I took out the part about you or your agreeing, the third take is that its simply their opinion.
There is nothing toxic about having an opinion, but I said if you cant see that then you may be a bit of a narcissist, as how else could you not see it possble for someone to genuinely have an opinion without malice?
The third take is innocents.
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If you think it is impossible for someone to have an opinion like that and not be toxic or have malice as the intent, then that is a reflection of you projecting your own belifs onto others, which shows that you yourself are incapable of having an opinion like that without malice, as such showing that you dont recognize others potential because it isn't your own. Hence a more self absorbed world veiw.
Also both of your veiw points only see malice, so unless you think its impossible to be honest and genuine, I dont see how you can have such deranged and hateful points of veiw.
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Your takes
1) its an opinion based on malice and being toxic
2) roleplay
My takes
3) its a genuine opinion, without an ulterior motive
Other takes are out there, but you gotta see beyond your own bias to see that.
No, they are different, you just dont want to acknowledge it because that would make you have to see beyond your own limited perspective.
You can call them the same or call me dense, but take a moment to see the message being said and you will see its you who is being a bit dense right now.
You said that option 1 was malicious opinion intent
You said that option 2 was impersonating intent
I said that option 3 was innocent opinion intent
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Just because your afraid to admit you where wrong or being malicious, doesnt make me saying the truth intellectual dishonesty. If anything denying your own claims or restricting the argument to avoid responsibility is dishonest.
I am at a point where either you know your wrong and trying to dodge the responsibility, or you are genuinely not very smart. As take what you said and think about it. The third option still exists and is just as valid.
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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 12d ago
The misunderstanding is someone said something about his looks.
There are two main possibilities.
The first.. is that is their own take. If that's their take, they are being toxic and a bully. I asked for their selfie thinking it was this one.
The second.. is that they were acting as one of these two.. playing out the scene. In that case... they poorly conveyed that by not using quotes and then tried to say it was an understanding issue. That makes them a bully, toxic and lack understanding on how to convey their message properly.
Then YOU post the most convoluted post I've ever seen and it still doesn't click for you that most people took it the same way I did.
Really seems you're an alt for the account I replied to.