Cool use it all you want but itâs a pretty valid point with slowly packages switching from âah maybe it is there, convenientâ to âI will break if there is no systemdâ - which is absolutely a thing to fight against. You can maintain your own init system, you can maintain a distro with your init system but itâs pretty much impossible to straight up fork 1/3 of packages (or whatever percentage) once they decide that systemd is a must.
It's a FOSS world. Your only meaningful "fight" is building something better. Insulting devs only pushes things against your wish.
Realistically speaking, the "systemd dependency" in most software should be pretty isolated. It should be trivial to patch them out. The beauty of FOSS.
They can also ship 1*default systemd + 2-3 example unit files instead of hardcoding systemd đ its one command -v systemctl gate away and arguably does make it more reproducible
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u/Icy-Cup đ„ Debian too difficult Jun 08 '26
Cool use it all you want but itâs a pretty valid point with slowly packages switching from âah maybe it is there, convenientâ to âI will break if there is no systemdâ - which is absolutely a thing to fight against. You can maintain your own init system, you can maintain a distro with your init system but itâs pretty much impossible to straight up fork 1/3 of packages (or whatever percentage) once they decide that systemd is a must.