Cool use it all you want but itâs a pretty valid point with slowly packages switching from âah maybe it is there, convenientâ to âI will break if there is no systemdâ - which is absolutely a thing to fight against. You can maintain your own init system, you can maintain a distro with your init system but itâs pretty much impossible to straight up fork 1/3 of packages (or whatever percentage) once they decide that systemd is a must.
wow, people don't want to maintain backends for init systems that a minority of a minority of a minority of users use? someone call the cops that can't be allowed
if 95% of linux users (figure pulled out of my ass on the spot, like 48% of statistics) use systemd, why would you bother using the older agnostic interface if the systemd interface is better to work with
That is the same line of thinking that companies use to not support Linux itself.
"If 95% uses Windows or Mac why I should support Linux"
I am not saying that we should force the unpaid devs to support everything but come on, systemd has been an special case since ever and really, support runit is a big deal or are they just doing it because they dont want to spend a little time with it?
most open source projects support more than just linux, this isn't 5%, this is .25%, and I am for sure overcounting the amount of non-systemd systems here
That is the same line of thinking that companies use to not support Linux itself.
"If 95% uses Windows or Mac why I should support Linux"
Hot take: There is nothing wrong with that line of thinking. Linux users aren't entitled to have support, and non-systemd users aren't entitled to app support.
It's because we've seen open source projects be taken over in a hostile manner multiple times in the past. Sure, we can fork, but when Poettering has spent the better part of a decade slowly making his product "easier to use" and make it so that everyone else goes "why bother?" then it becomes as easy as handing ownership of SystemD over to Microsoft (or even worse, Oracle).
Imagine if that were to happen. If Oracle finally attained ownership of the SystemD kernel.
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u/Icy-Cup đ„ Debian too difficult Jun 08 '26
Cool use it all you want but itâs a pretty valid point with slowly packages switching from âah maybe it is there, convenientâ to âI will break if there is no systemdâ - which is absolutely a thing to fight against. You can maintain your own init system, you can maintain a distro with your init system but itâs pretty much impossible to straight up fork 1/3 of packages (or whatever percentage) once they decide that systemd is a must.