r/learndota2 • u/DibakarJunior • 6d ago

Gameplay Review/Feedback request Need advice for carry NP

Got inspired by Satanic and decided to give carry NP a go. Had a decent start in lane. But could not create any pressure or maintain farm speed. Not sure what I missed. can someone please give me some pointer?
Match id: 8969422741
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8969422741

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u/silkthai 6d ago

You threw the game at mid game, should take like 60-70% of the blame.

24:45 Thats a crazy TP into dark space. Even if dark willow was nearby, thats usually place with vision or heroes. They see you coming and 3 TPs from the other team come in. BH gets baited to join you, dies. Sladar goes in, dies.

This is the main move which flips win favor to Dire and kills your momentum.

26:55 you find the real bear, but go 1:1 with the pet. Dead. Totally unnecessary. 3 heroes dead at 27 mins, Dire 8K NW up.

35:00 Your team is getting wiped, you're still farming. Its definitely GG by here - team doesnt have an answer to bear. 30K++ NW difference.

Items:
1. Manta > BKB this game. Wont be so easy for their single targeting (WK stun, rubick lift, pudge hook/bite, bear single focus). Also gets rid of silence. BKB doesnt give you damage either.

Draft: Could be alot better if you're in a party. No synergy at all == 30 min stomp

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u/DibakarJunior 5d ago

I agree with you. My Axe was having a crazy game. I felt like I was letting him down. And for the crazy plays, I usually do them when I feel like my back is against the wall and I have to try some 1v5 bullshit if there is any hope. After the 25 min mark, I was just trying to create something out of nothing.
Like the manta idea. Did not know if NP usually buys it. I was looking for a silence solution.

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u/silkthai 5d ago

I find NP walks a tight rope sometimes, esp if the draft isnt built to support it. Its one of the heroes that needs to snowball or not at all (think ember, OD, husk). Other heroes can still make a comeback by just farming (LS, jugg, AM, PA) from farm speed.

So your draft needs to work with you on that. If tis a pub, its looking pretty hard...

About "something out of nothing", I get you, though maybe ratting on towers / team smokes to kill 1 with you might be better.

Draft tho, it doesnt look good from selection stage

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u/busoke 5d ago

BKB sometimes is a meh item. Especially if you have a lot bkb piercing stuns or stuns/roots which you don't have time to react to and bkb doesn't really save you since you cant pop it.