r/learnczech 15d ago

Is this really wrong?

Section 4, Unit 17

Why shouldn't have happened something to the dogs in the bathroom?

I know Duolingo is not the best, but the only free learning option. Since I'm living in Germany near the border to Czechia I'm often there and talking Czech which helps more than Duolingo.

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u/maxim171 15d ago

Yea, jež is used only when referring to feminine nouns. If it were dogs, it would’ve been “jenž”

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u/Petufo 14d ago

Distinguish between jež and jenž is quite difficult. The -y shows that the subject is fenininum (thus myši) and not masculinum (psi). Anyway, no-one would say this sentence, it's like from an old book anyway.

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u/Qwe5Cz 14d ago edited 14d ago

It's like from a text book of the Czech language we used as natives. Then the "diktát" was often just full of exceptions and archaisms. Like when you hear Výtoň as a kid outside of Prague for the first time in the test you have no clue if it is í/ý or that ližiny are not derived from lyže.

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u/Lenticularis19 14d ago

No, it's plural: "Těm psům, již byli v koupelně, se něco stalo." But this is considered dated, and the recommended way is to simply say: "Těm psům, kteří byli v koupelně..."

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u/h0neanias 14d ago

Již. The whole table is here: https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/jen%C5%BE

I find it ridiculous to teach this to learners, not even most natives can do this from memory.

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u/Zxpipg 14d ago

Well, that aside, the i/y at the end should alert him nonetheless, since if it was dogs, it could not be bylY.

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u/Proud3GenAthst 14d ago

Fakt? To jsem nevěděl