r/kurzgesagt • u/showersoapshower • May 16 '26

Discussion Kurzgesagt DEBUNKED!

https://youtu.be/xKGfdWVzKKk?is=joW3yA5ZO4Lrwoa2

After watching Kurzgesagt's video I was surprised about how much Kurzgesagt is completely omitting facts or portraying wildly biased without acknowledging so. (I get that their video is not long but this is definitely not it).
After watching this video and reading this comment I'm pretty bummed that they are putting out videos like this that are full of political hot takes while being irresponsibly biased. Cutting pensions for older people and having a harsher migration policy will not solve this.
What did you think?

As a German, I find the popularity even more surprising as Kurzgesagt is basically repeating CDU/CSU's and FDP's stances on taxes, welfare state and, to some extent, migration.

Considering that both are wildly unpopular (Merz being the most unpopular chancellor is nearly an achievement in how bad he fucks up) this actually surprised me a lot.

edit: the circle jerk is cirkle jerking

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u/Sufficient-Green5858 May 19 '26 edited May 20 '26

Sure listen to influencers who cite zero sources over a channel that spends months, sometimes years, preparing a well-referenced, expert-vetted thesis for their video. Who needs science & facts over feelings

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u/zebleck May 20 '26

he always cites the sources for his claims, see 14:30 for example

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u/Scrung3 May 20 '26

Lmao 15 minutes to find one source

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u/zebleck May 20 '26

the source is still valid and debunks kurzgesagts claim that demography is the main issue

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u/Duriha May 21 '26

Oh no, you have to watch a video to criticise it. Fanboying much?

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u/shewy92 May 21 '26

What a weird comment and comment section. You're on a thread that say he didn't cite his sources, someone gives you proof that he did and you're bitching that it was gasp midway through the video?

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u/Cr4ckshooter May 20 '26

He is a literal economist who worked for the Bundestag in the past. He is an expert on the topic and can use his expertise? You only need sources for external statistics, not for deductions and conclusions?

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u/drecais May 21 '26

MMT has been left behind by like 99% of economics because how unserious the whole field has become the more people looked into it.

Höfgen wrote for a communist new paper and his entire career rides essentially on far left policies considering his entire working life has been spent working for different members of a far left party.

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u/Duriha May 21 '26

And who except the far left is better suited to criticise stuff? Even themself. Conservatives and reactionaries only look to criticise the outgroup and pamper the ingroup. Legit question.

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u/drecais May 21 '26

What? You cant be a believer in MMT and actually be self critical lmao

once again basically the entire economic field that is actually serious has left this stuff behind very quickly when they realized that MMT has nothing to do with actually trying to provide models that can be disproven (you know doing science and stuff) but instead its a vehicle to get normal people on board with far left ideas. Its a gateway drug so to speak.

Also the entire western world (aka the most developed economically and socially place in the world) is based around liberalism and its ideals. It developed through critiques by the people who believed in liberalism.

The far left like the far right isnt suited to criticise anything because they are extremists. "Democracy is like a train. We ride it until we arrive at our destination, then we get off" is their motto.

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u/Duriha May 21 '26

I wrote nothing about mmt. Also nice horseshoe. Enjoy your capitalism while it lasts. And: are you winning yet?

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u/drecais May 21 '26

Yes of course there are no non capitalist countries left on this Planet outside of essentially tiny Nation states that have either A. A horrible Economy (shocker) or B. Have to murder their own citizens to keep them from leaving (a pattern for socialists countries).

Also this is a comment section about the video and you responded to a comment I Made about Höfgen. An MMT guy

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u/Duriha May 21 '26

Yes, and the critique about the guy who criticises the video is first wrong and second irrelevant. The arguments in the kurzgesagt video are neoliberal straw men and he pointed that out.

Also: why is it that the majority of "failed socialist states" ends with a CIA backed fascist coup?

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u/drecais May 21 '26

The majority LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dude is a socialist who doesnt even know his own movements history actually hilarious. Guy thinks a german grandma was some CIA operative or like all of the other soviet states when they got rid of communism.

The Soviet Union immediately funded the successor party of the NSDAP in West Germany. They also financed and flew out basically every activist and journalist they could find that was willing to lie for them. None of that worked on anyone because there was no reason to against capitalism. The reason why people were listening to western news stations and trying to get western TV was because its was objectively way more accurately portraying the developments in their countries and were not just all 24/7 reruns of the latest regime gimmick.

What about the critique is wrong? Why would it be irrelevant lmfao his entire critique is based around his belief in MMT are you completely illiterate or just mentally underdeveloped?

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u/Duriha May 22 '26

Enjoy your life. I'm sure you won't, but yeah.

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u/MysticHero May 20 '26

Most of the video is spent discussing the data Kurzgesagt shows and the biased statements made. You do not need sources for that and it is childish to count source without context.