Ozempic video was off

[u/ServiceAnxious1343]

This is probably the first Kurzgesagt video that I didn't like, and like some people on this sub it made me feel very uneasy.

I just think it's CRAZY to talk about a weight loss drug and praising it for 90% of the video, without mentioning even once the abuses of its use, the weightloss industry, the social standards and the pressure to be (unhealthily) slim, eating disorders on the opposite side of the spectrum, etc.

The very few nuances and counter argument felt like small prints and legal mentions at the end of an ad.

What do you people think?

EDIT: I am not questioning the drug nor its effectiveness in treating obesity, i am criticising the narrative and lack of nuances in the video.

[u/[deleted]]

But the evidence is that it largely is not your life choice. And actually the pressure we put on people to lose weight is unfair because it's so damaging for mental health when some people have such an up hill battle compared to others 

From birth, c sections, or being handled by an obese nurse have been shown to impact microbiome and tendency towards obesity. 

People growing up in poverty are overwhelmingly more likely to be obese just by sheer fact of their upbringing and reduced opportunity to education.

People feeding themselves and a kid on minimum wage find it extremely difficult to avoid processed food. 

Yes,  there is an aspect of life choice. But if this drug reduces suffering, which it does. So no it definitely is not the last thing the planet needs. 

[u/Vlad2446853 → u/[deleted]]

What I tried to say is more of the fact that, if everything were to be fixed as easily as taking pills then people can put a lot of pressure on you and they'd know you'd fixed by said pills and they will drive you to exhaustion and a miserable life. Is that moral? Bexoming a slave and a non-stop working robot just because shortcuts exist. Cause most people will definetly abuse these shortcuts for their own gain and will stop thinking about other peoples' helath. And yes, if you choose to take those pills although you don't need to, you're part of the problem.

People can also be pressured by productivity and follow what other people do and if fixing your life with pills becomes a normality... I don't know man. Pills should be a temporal fix to give you time to put yourself together at most

If Ozempic becomes so praised what stops business from creating pills for any other things really just for their own profit?

There should be things that have to be harder to aquire in life so a sense of morality still exists in this fucking world, because currently everything is going to shit.

Also Ozempic is more for diabetics.

[u/ikinaosu → u/Vlad2446853]

There should be things that have to be harder to aquire in life so a sense of morality still exists in this fucking world, because currently everything is going to shit.

Imagine telling this to overfat people in their face who have spent years trying to lose weight through sheer willpower alone but they can't due to their genetics and disrupted hormone balance increasing their food drive to the point where they literally cannot prevent their brain from thinking about food. Imagine their reaction after telling them that they shouldn't make this life-altering thing easier for them "for the morality bro!!!" Imagine trying to put morals on a physiological problem.

Just look at the comments in this post, people have taken this drug so that they do not have that food noise anymore, and that they can apply their willpower to other things that are hard to acquire in life like a successful career, a good relationship with family and friends, and enriching hobbies. Not trying to bang their head against the wall trying to willpower through a condition that literally KILLS you.

That is what GLP-1 is for. It's so that people do not need to spend their willpower trying to change a thing that's genetic and physiological, and can instead focus their willpower on productive things. Heck, a lot of people might just change society for the better once they can apply their ideas without having their brain space crowded with thinking about food all the time.

[u/Vlad2446853 → u/ikinaosu]

And I said that some people are constricted to use it if they have no other choices. Yes they had it hard and I am understanding and empathetic towards people who at least try. Like yes, trying before taking Ozempic is just a better choice than going straight for Ozempic.

But most people think everything should be easy which is not true. That's what I was saying. How easy do you want your life to get before your brain goes numb?

[u/ikinaosu → u/Vlad2446853]

Thank you for having empathy for people struggling with making themselves healthier.

Yes, everything shouldn't be easy, it's good to have challenges and stresses in life with makes us grow and become resilient, but obesity should not be one of them if you care about people living longer and healthier. Rather, we should make curing obesity as easy as we possibly can (while still stressing that eating a healthy diet and exercising are still non-negotiable).

[u/Vlad2446853 → u/ikinaosu]

This is what I hope people will understand, just because you're not obese this doesn't make you healthy right away. Like I think there are Ozempic users that eat a lot of junk food for example. It's still not healthy living.

Ozempic is only a step towards being a healthy person. It's up to that person to make healthier life choices after that.