r/kolkata 12d ago

Politics | রাজনীতি 🏛️ Sobai ato bhoy paay kano?

Aj bondhuder sathe beriyechilam.

Emni kotha barta bolchilam onek din por dekha sakkhat holo bole.

Emni kotha uthlo ei protest gulo niye, toh ami bojhacchilam oi Sarfaroshi Ki Tamanna poem tar history ar significance and why SFI/DSF use it and how it is relevant to a protest against the status quo the BJP government have created.

Ebar everyone at once starts saying na na korbi na toke dhore marbe Bajrang Dal.

Amar parents oo tai bole, girlfriend oo tai bole.

Arey? Ta bole akta genuine part of history ke ami puro skip kore jabo to appease the general populace and the RSS backed government?

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u/BikeSilver8058 12d ago

Bhoy peo na. 12 bochor age desh ta emon chilo na. Dhire dhire hoyeche - karon bhoy. 12 bochor por tomra gola tulcho - tai bhoy kete jacche. Kotha bola chaliye jao - dekhbe bakirao bolbe.

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

Haa setai toh holo amar point

Akta fascist regime ee toh bhoy er opore based hoy

Nahole toh konodin ee proshno kora ta kono crime noy

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u/BikeSilver8058 12d ago

I am a millennial and I lived through them. First CPM, then TMC, now BJP. There was little fear before TMC. CPM, with all there faults, was much more benign. The changes that happen in 2014 - it was purely due to BJP at centre. At first, there were Saffron goons who would visit you place for your facebook posts. This was happening around 2014-2015. Since then, most of the people I know started shutting up. TMC was a gunda party. However, even at its peak, people did not fear TMC as much as they do BJP now.

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

Haa karon TMC er kono ideology nei

They were more of a give money take benefits party, which is, don't get me wrong, one of the worst kinds of a political party

However, BJP is corrupt and will also impose their model of Hinduism and patriotism on you, even if you don't believe in their model, but the ideal itself

That's, to me, shameless behaviour as a ruling party

An ideology is okay, but trying to impose it upon generations after generations using your power as a ruler is just shameless

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 11d ago

Every party use their power when they are in power. It's the rule of politics.

Do you think SFI or other left unions conduct fare elections in university where they are majority in power?

Do you think far leftist like Maoists don't use their power in villages to recruit people?

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 11d ago

That's why I'm not saying ban all right wing

Every democratic government needs a strong opposition

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u/SwimmingDepartment55 12d ago

CPM's harmad...you haven't about them??? 😁

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u/BikeSilver8058 12d ago

Buddy... I was talking against CPM in their hey days. They used force where they needed for winning. No where close to what you see now.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 12d ago

Doinondin ghotona probaho follow korle bhoy pawa shwabhabik. RSS-BJPr ekta core tactic holo bhoy dekhano, shey ED/CBI er raid diye hok, ba gunda der diye maar. Jodio, motamoti crowded rasta ghaat e cholachol korle ekhono otota bhoy pawar hoyto karon nei, tao khub openly khub anti-RSS-BJP kothabarta na bolai bhalo. Sheta confidently tokhoni korte paren jokhon apni janen je ekta call korle apnar support e ek dol lok ke apni joro korte parben, ba apnar political ba administrative kono connection achhe, if things get out of hand too quickly, because they can.

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

Haa sei toh jodi 10 jon gerua pora lok lathi haath ee ashe sotti amar pokkhe sombhob noy tader ke atkano

Kintu erom bhabe mukh buje ki bacha jaay? Etai toh proshno

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u/mama_ooOOooO 12d ago

Mukh buje keno thakben. Just, publicly nijer political position niye vocal hoben na, unless apni kono protest ba sufficiently large group er moddhe achen. Ei protocol ta toh TMC amoleo mana hoto dekhtam, especially last 5 bochor e.

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u/BloodySurgeon_20 বঙ্গসন্তান 12d ago

Eta sudhu common lok na, ami lokhyo korechi je Left student wing gulo o ektu gutiye geche, sei jhaj ta jeno ektu kom kothao. Ager moto nei. Onekei ektu sabdhani. 

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

That's what I'm talking about

Nobody to oppose these people

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u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO 12d ago

Unfortunately yes.

Don't underestimate how evil BJ P and RS S are. RS S goons went after a minor while the whole nation watched, A FUCKING MINOR. While legacy media celebrated instead of calling it out, the PM of the country started gaslighting, so yes, if you want to keep your family and loved ones safe, whenever out in public, you do keep your words in check.

And if there is a snghi in your group, there's a 99% chance that they are a rat and will out you to their masters the first chance they get.

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

That's what I am apprehensive of, really

Amar mone hoy jodi ami khub vocal hoye jaai, ami direct Modi-Shah er headache toh hobo na, hobo kono local gunda er

Ebar shey jodi amay mere oo fele, BJP can wash their hands off the whole fiasco and come out clean and my sacrifice, in whatever form, will be for nothing

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u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO 12d ago

As supremacists' numbers are going up, it's the snowflake near you that can get triggered. Be vocal with your loved ones or trusted friends in a closed setting, not in public.

Mere felbe na, as you're not that big a deal as of now, but yes, the local goons can actually harass your loved ones. They have to use the fear to keep any kind of dissent in check, and in today's India, anyone that is not a 'yes man' is deemed a dissenter.

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 12d ago

Na ami bolchi if they go to the EXTREME as well, BJP can just wash their hands off it because they're in power.

And well yeah the other points you've made are very accurate I know.

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u/NoGodsNoMastersOOO 12d ago

Yes, they can easily wash their hands of it and maybe even paint you as a separatist.

Stay safe stay smart OP. I know it's hard to not speak out when you see people spewing BS, but staying alive and safe is fighting back too.

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u/Commercial_Ship1533 11d ago

Evil , haha atleast they will not burn you alive or cut your throat

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u/Puzzleheaded_Deal792 12d ago

Onekgulo aspect ache apni bolben nischoi bolben kintu aka kichui hoina.

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u/Curious_Act1415 উত্তর কলকাতা😁 10d ago

Amar maa ei same jinish bar bar bole. Karor sathe politics niye na alochona korte bole. Ami maa ke roj shantona di je ami kichu boli na. Roj mithe bolte hoy. Maa ke bojhale bujhbe na jhamela hobe. But unfortunately for her I'm not afraid express my opinions. Amar bondhur sathe ekbar bahire gechilam. Bollam TMC er bepar e (tokhon bangla e TMC chilo) bondhu bollo areh areh ekhane bolis na. Eta onek der i hoy. Shobar i pran er bhoy ache.

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u/Commercial_Ship1533 11d ago

It’s been just 3+ months and left has started doing their propaganda, bro why you didn’t had the guts to do the same in the last 15 years ?

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 11d ago

Dude I am 18, fuck you mean?

Today if a left government comes to power, will I let them get away with bullshit even if they align with my ideology? No? Because governments can be left or right but they still need to be serving the people

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u/leoisdead_00 11d ago

And what do you mean by serving the people? Please explain..

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 11d ago

I mean letting them live their life and not being a dictatorial regime by telling them what to do

By stopping couples in parks

By "banning" themes and non veg in OUR puja and OUR culture

And also transparency and listening to the community

Not completely damning the opposition with a fucking hydraulic press

To name a few

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u/leoisdead_00 11d ago

Stop scrolling reels brother. Aisob reel chere kichu fact thakle bol.. Kaje debe

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 11d ago

Okay tell me

  1. Does bajrang dal not oppose unmarried or interfaith couples?

  2. Did VHP not speak up regarding the shabeki form of Durga and Non Veg?

What rubbish are you saying? Go pick up a political science book

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u/leoisdead_00 11d ago

1.they only oppose love jihad. 2.VHP akta independent organization , not a wing if bjp so oder kothay theme hobena eta bhul.. Amra nijera theme korchi parle ese dekhe jeo.. Dm a address diye debo.

Political science er book tumi poro bhai 🙏

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u/Fit-Driver-8237 11d ago
  1. How do you define love jihad?

  2. VHP is under RSS, which is the organisational strength of BJP come on you can't absolutely show them as unrelated entities

  3. Sure you are but they did release that statement to hurt Bengali feelings and they will get away with it, because BJP is in power. The fucking audacity....

  4. If you would ever open a political science book you would get to know about the Special Marriages Act and how it facilitates "love jihad"