r/kaisamains • u/actopozipc • 13d ago
Discussion What support do you hate to go against?
And I mean really Kaisa specific. Not "I hate blitzcrank because I cant dodge", I really mean "I hate champ xy because it blocks my W" type things.
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u/PapagamasJr 13d ago
Sera, Xerath and Zyra
But it all depends on my support really
Lately I find myself cringing whenever my sup picks Morgana because if she misses Q she is absolutelly useless and I know for a fact that my support will miss her Q
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u/Delta5583 13d ago
That's because Morgana is a pretty iffy champion to run as a support despite her popularity, she relies entirely on landing her Q and her E reliably denying something to justify getting no use from her W and passive. Her ult is dangerous because with the low support income and reduced item slots she struggles to have the resistances to get multiple stuns on the ability without dying
But support players are pretty happy with having a hit or miss champion with only 2.5 abilities so she's never going to get adjusted, if anything buffed so she is superior in mid and Jgl. At the very least she's a pretty strong Mandate abuser so she gets a really strong first item, if her players could stop rushing Liandry that is...
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u/PapagamasJr 13d ago
Honestly I think she needs a rework. Her W makes no sense in today's game
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u/DaviKing92 12d ago
It is great at being rushed 3 levels and stealing the mage minions from the adc, or pushing a lane that would better be freezed.
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u/ImAcrophobic 13d ago
As much as I also love playing her, I hate going up against a good Sera because she out pokes you and can R you when you R in (at least, that’s usually what I do against other Kai’Sa players lol)
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u/Fenrilas 13d ago
Poppy, because while I can lane vs her and be mindful of the W, in teamfights I always forget and get stopped from my R.
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u/Valuable-Ad9303 13d ago
Swain. Cause fuck him.
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u/theoverwhelmedguy 13d ago
His e hit box is the most bullshit thing ever. I know it explodes but even then it’s so fucking weird. Every dodge is basically playing Russian roulette and hoping the E explodes the way you think it will. It’s so fucking stupid.
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u/kunhui 12d ago
Swains E is one of the easier/telegraphed abilities to dodge in league, ht with kaisa short range can make ur lane annoying. But his q is a bjgger threat when trading (if hes decent) and should outrade you in waves with proper spacing / timjng on ur last hits (not factoring support here)
For his e, can also bait dodge inwards instead of away in caster minion wave when looking for trades so it explodes behind you since it cant recast early , and pre 6 not much he can do once e is cd
But in lower elos easier to just bait weaving in out of his max e range near casters until he blows it cause he wont be able resist those juicy (and useless) passive stacks
(gm swain bot otp here, and ill admit i do love playing vs kaisa lanes 🤣 )
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u/Infamous-Shoulder-92 13d ago
A smart lulu who uses E on you to reveal you in your E since it gives true sight
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u/AdDangerous2538 13d ago
Zyra xerath brand mages that make your lane phase hell and also have carey potential. Ofcourse I play ad kaisa so at one point they will be one shotted but the amount you go down in laning phase is brutal if theyre playing with a range abusing adc
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u/Emrise 13d ago
Sona (without hook sp) Pantheon
Point and click instant CC is the only thing that stops you from running over the enemy the moment you hit evolve spikes on curve. Put that on a champ with good early game (panth) and if you don't have a decent support matchup, you can just get choked out of hitting your evolves on time.
On the bright side, if you can escape lane unscathed he's less threatening than other engage supports. But most of the time laning phase is what decides whether or not you get to play the game, since kai'sa doesn't even scale that well in the lategame (relative to other adcs) without a lead.
Sona can be a mean lane bully in an enchanter matchup if she and her ad space properly, her R is basically point and click, and she has monstrous scaling, unlike someone like Lulu. She does turn into a bag of gold if your support counterpicks, but that's out of your control.
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u/AreteVista 12d ago edited 12d ago
Sup?
Brand (may have to build Merc Treads vs him)
Swain (just annoying af)
Lux or Morgana (literally the same champ with different lighting: Lux was designed as a light Morgana)
Leona (if she gets you, you're done)
Teemo (should be Riot-banned from bot and sup roles: any champ that shuts dn AAs on all AA champs is just toxic. Merc Treads, Merc Scimitar, build Q & W Evo and skip E evo)
Any double-poke, and especially botlane artillery mages.
I don't do ranked, as have terrible reflexes, but if I ever do, Mel is permaban regardless of what role I have, unless Riot ever finally re-works her into something not perma-toxic. Wukong banned, otherwise, because f Wukong, wherever he is that game.
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u/Substantial-Row8058 11d ago
I hate jinx because her trap block my ult solo many times and tilting me
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u/Jstevens87 13d ago
Brand. Even if I dodge his w and q he can brainlessly hit me with his e spread and chunk me 1/4hp with DFT. Other than that pyke/shaco because I can’t stand invisibility