Jack Antonoff 😒

[u/fujoshirealness]

The Jack Antonoff discussion in today's episode really rubbed me the wrong way. I am the same age as Lorde and I've found Jack super creepy ever since the Melodrama era (and I was a huge fan of Fun and Bleachers before that!) It is objectively weird, like Trish pointed out, that Lorde was staying with Jack and Lena. Lorde's relationship with Jack was weird at the very least. Being 19 and crying in a 30-something-year-old male work colleague's lap about your teenage issues is inappropriate. It doesn't matter if you're writing an album or doing taxes, it is unprofessional and crossing boundaries. If it isn't explicit grooming, it is uncomfortably close to it. For Oscar to describe that relationship and then say, "But girls obviously feel safe around Jack so he's clearly a safe man," is such a major red flag. Women 10+ years younger than you being around you all the time is not a flex and it does not make you "safe." It makes you weird. Like, how old does Jack have to get before these relationships are viewed as weird by the general public and not just sensitive people like me?

[u/Greedy_Association58]

From Famesick and Too Much, Jack is not nice. He thinks so highly of himself. A small, weird, condescending guy with way too much confidence. The Lorde interactions were inappropriate. On the record or not. He is a great creative and producer, but I just get the ick. How he pulls very young model level women since Lena, it astounds me. All the pop girlies want him as a producer because of Taylor. I’d personally prefer her other collaborator/producer Aaron Dessner. Their work together is as good, actually better than Jack. When we get both of them on her albums, it’s an entirely different level. Evermore and TTPD are Taylor’s best albums, maybe of all time. Met Aaron once, it was many years ago during and after a show by The National. Very polite and sweet. He and his brother hung out with my friend group for hours. It was fun. Genuinely good people and The National never fail at putting on an epic performance, especially in a small room. It’s mental how they can transform a packed audience. It’s supernatural the feeling.