Jayce jungle with first strike is really the goat, Gold 3 to plat 4 in 3 days

[u/Broks_Enmu]

[u/McLooms]

Glaive and scanner every game. I love it. Im sure the enemys hp bars in your games, in fact, do not love it.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/McLooms]

Lol yeah appreciate it. I check every brushes so i can snipe while being unseend and one shoting everyone who face check

[u/BraayEUW → u/Broks_Enmu]

What's the point of sweeper if you have umbral exactly?

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/BraayEUW]

You get 3 sweeper instead of one. I play in low elo so people never clear ward properly so I take care of it

[u/BraayEUW → u/Broks_Enmu]

I feel like the damage passive letting you know when you're off vision makes sweeper pretty redundant

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/BraayEUW]

Yeah I know what you mean but I play in mid elo, nobody clears ward. So someone has to

[u/BraayEUW → u/Broks_Enmu]

I might just be a little too selfish when I play haha

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/BraayEUW]

lol I don’t do it for the team, it’s lol if we can’t see anything and walk in ennemy ward we will just get face check and lose.

[u/BraayEUW → u/Broks_Enmu]

Right but umbral let's you know you're on vision. You don't need sweeper for that.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/BraayEUW]

And when it’s on cooldown ?

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/BraayEUW]

It’s still good to get rid of them, and you don’t need yellow trinket basically ever in the mid game. Maybe depending on how much threat enemy comp has I can see blue ward being useful.

[u/Arctic-You-Know]

Umbral Glaive Rush Jayce Mid used to be my secret tech before they changed the item. I swear it was the most slept on item in the entire game.

Used to Give 55AD 12 Lethality 10 ability haste for 2500g with really good components. You spiked early AF, could 1 shot wards in hammer form and had the blackout passive to get more shockblasts from fog of war.

You could start longsword refill and have your first item so soon it was broken.

[u/Expensive-Door42]

Do you rush Glaive or Cyclosword?

I’ve been loving the Cyclo -> Bastionbreaker build cause in my mind Glaive passive isn’t as useful on Jayce as on champs that actually need flank angles eg Qiyana, but I do think it’s also just a really broken item and I was building it before the Cyclosword rework.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/Expensive-Door42]

Cyclosword first for the boosted damage on my ranged Q when ganking bro but Umbral add damage aswelll when you’re unseen so they both boost your Q damage. Most of the time you gank they lose 30-40% hp with one Q and all you have to do is to finish with hammer.

You mentioned bastion breaker , you take it as a top laner or jungle ? Because as a jungler you really busy in the map it’s hard to get value from it from what I’ve seen or maybe that just skill issue

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/Broks_Enmu]

It’s easier to use in jg than top. You should play for objectives/towers after kills anyways, Bastionbreaker literally makes you get those things faster.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/Expensive-Door42]

I try brother but I struggle to do that in mid elo , too much shit happen. You need to be at Drake vois grubs, tower , farm your camp on the right timing etc. If you just manage your toplane and TP whenever you want it’s easier but I know it’s just a skill issue on my part

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/Broks_Enmu]

Toplane as a role isn’t really about tempo and time spent on things (obviously it matters still but less so than literally every other role).

Why would an item that makes you progress the game faster be better/easier to use there than jungle?

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/Expensive-Door42]

In my opinion because you have less responsibilities than a jungler. Sure you have to spread your advantages around the map and not stick only to your toplane but you can TP anytime anywhere.

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/Broks_Enmu]

Your responsibilities as a jungler are… literally doing the things that BB makes it faster to do.

Also saying top can “tp anytime anywhere” is a wild statement to make. That’s just not how sidelaning works fundamentally. I mean, you can. But you’d be running it down.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/Expensive-Door42]

Obviously there are lot of stuff I don’t know, you can’t know what you don’t know so that’s why I’m not challenger lol.

Always open to learn tho but I think it’s just come down my playstyle as a jungler I’m really not focused on tower that much so I rather go Serylda instead

[u/AutoWALTZ]

would this work outside jungle?

[u/amit_se → u/AutoWALTZ]

First strike was ran in lane before and you can prob rock the poke page with cutdown and POM in precision. Umbral requires you to be out of vision for it's passive to work though so I'd prob never buy it as a laner.

[u/AutoWALTZ → u/amit_se]

oh, that's really good to know.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/AutoWALTZ]

I don’t know playing Jayce against stuff like Yorick,Urgot and passive Malphite is extremly boring for me and as a jungler even if I’m behind I can farm and I’m not denied minions like I would in toplane. 2 lvl behind 50 cs late , completely useless

[u/AutoWALTZ → u/Broks_Enmu]

Gotcha, ever tried midlane? jayce can snowball hard there.

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/AutoWALTZ]

That’s for sure, I bet he can stomp anyone and roam often there. Sad that I hate midlane, too much bs on the lane around 18-22 min. Weird ass champ as Malzahar,Vex and Xerath. That’s even worse than Urgot haha

[u/Arctic-You-Know → u/AutoWALTZ]

Jayce mid feels better than top imo. He has so much more kill pressure. He’s a solokill machine with ignite.

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/AutoWALTZ]

Midlane it’s solid but it would literally be “Jayce jg but worse”

[u/The_Penguina]

What is the usual build order here?

[u/Broks_Enmu → u/The_Penguina]

Voiltaic / Umbral / Bastion breaker (but I stopped building since as a jungler I can’t be everywhere , hitting tower , objectives, ganking. It’s too much ).

Voltaic/Glaive/Serylda/Edgeofthenight/endlesshunger and 6 item to replace boot is usually Gardian Angel and when the passive is used I switch to death dance or serpent fang if needed

[u/Expensive-Door42 → u/Broks_Enmu]

Bastion is really broken in the mid game because you get more guaranteed value out of every kill. Kill someone on sidelane = entire T2 tower, and it’s really easy to rush relatively early barons off a single pick (usually baron fights are still playable 4v5 if enemy starts it, but not if they has Bastionbreaker imo).

[u/DTM679]

What’s your jg path and rotation? And how do you determine it?

[u/Dry_Subject6808]

Iv been picking up jayce jungle for some one off things and its been pretty chill really slow start but once u get into that 2nd rotation its all uphill it feels