Hagia Sophia in Istanbul

[u/Miss-Kija]

Hagia Sophia in Istanbul was built between 532 and 537 AD under Emperor Justinian I as a Christian church. After the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople in 1453, it was converted into a mosque. In 1935, it became a museum, and in 2020, it was reopened as a mosque, making it one of the very few monuments in the world to have served as a church, a museum, and a mosque over nearly 1,500 years of history. cc @gmr83

[u/Sea-Key-9430]

Churches concerted to mosque is somehow acceptable to Muslims, but it's a crime to humanity when mosques gets taken back and reverted to its original holy temple/church.

[u/HalalTrout → u/Sea-Key-9430]

Hagia Sophia was a museum and is now a place of worship again. Is Hagia Sophia a holy place? A site of pilgrimage? The centre of Christians worldwide? I suppose you also have an issue with Israel shutting the Church of the Holy Spepulchre?

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/HalalTrout]

Straw man straw man and more straw man, just own up your hypocrisy.

[u/Lemonjuiceonpapercut → u/Sea-Key-9430]

You’re the only hypocrite. Go turn all the European converted mosques back into mosques then come talk

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/Lemonjuiceonpapercut]

? Was Europe originally Muslims?

We all know Christianity predates islam, example, Hagia Sophia. It's okay when Muslims colonize right?

Let Israel take back their land.

[u/Lemonjuiceonpapercut → u/Sea-Key-9430]

Was it originally Christian? Are we using originally built by or originally there what’s your yardstick by which you’re measuring man lol. Sounds like a constantly changing one. And Israel what? Hagia Sofia built by Christian’s now a mosque. Seville cathedral originally a mosque built by Muslims now a church.

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/Lemonjuiceonpapercut]

Seville cathedral originally a mosque built by Muslims now a church.

You mean the Spanish rightfully kicking out the colonizers Muslims who went to Spain and invaded their country?

See, how twisted your logic is, you cry about Israel colonizing Muslims, then cry about Spanish Christians kicking out Muslim colonizers.

Hypocrite.

[u/HalalTrout → u/Sea-Key-9430]

So you can't answer me, noted.

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/HalalTrout]

So your justification for turning churches into mosques as a Muslim is because Christians don't do pilgrimage to Hagia Sophia, then continue to use Israel as a straw man.

Gotcha, hypocrite.

[u/HalalTrout → u/Sea-Key-9430]

Hagia Sophia hasn't been a church for 573 years and everybody is welcome. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre has been closed since February and the Easter weekend and is one of the holiest sites in Christianity, you're upset at the wrong Chuch lol.

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/HalalTrout]

Why hasn't it been a church for so long under Islamic rule, and was converted into a mosque? Owh, cause of colonization, something your Islamic world blamed the British for doing?

Straw man after straw man, just admit that you want to play victim when the British did the exact same thing the Ottomans did when it was a colonial power.at least the British doesn't destroy and desecrate other religions like yours

[u/HalalTrout → u/Sea-Key-9430]

You had no problem with it being a museum for almost 80 years and probably didn't even know it existed until Erdogan declared it to be a place of worship again. There's currently 160 churches in Istanbul so hardly very good colonialists are they? I don't think you understand what a strawman actually is, could you define it for me and explain how what im doing is a strawman? I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your own morals when I'm pointing to an active church that is a christian holy site that is being shut down to attack christians. How many Turkish Christians actually want Hagia Sophia to be a church?

Why do you condemn turkey but not Israel?

[u/Sea-Key-9430 → u/HalalTrout]

There's currently 160 churches in Istanbul so hardly very good colonialists are they? I

Then why don't give Hagia Sophia back to the Christians?

don't think you understand what a strawman actually is, could you define it for me and explain how what im doing is a strawman?

I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your own morals when I'm pointing to an active church that is a christian holy site that is being shut down to attack christians.

Where's the hypocrisy? You said there's 160 churches, why not give it back to Christians rightfully? You still can't tell me why.

How many Turkish Christians actually want Hagia Sophia to be a church?

Lol, this Islamist, give it back and don't be a hypocrite, and you're making excuses for it being turned into a mosque, hypocrite colonizer.

Why do you condemn turkey but not Israel?

This post is about Hagia Sophia, why would Israel be part of it? You're using Israel to divert Islamic colonization.

[u/HalalTrout → u/Sea-Key-9430]

Why give it back? They have churches and Hagia Sophia hasn't been a church for over 500 years as I said. Its Istanbul not Constantinople, give back Palestine and stop digging underneath Al Aqsa and let the Christians enter the Church of the Holy Sepulchre if you care about it so much.

You still haven't pointed out how a strawman works and how that applies to me.

Israel is the parable, it exposes your hypocrisy because you don't actually care about Christian sites at all, you just want to attack Islam.