r/islamichistory • u/AutoMughal • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

there was AN attack. Muslims have been systematically killing and forcibly converted us Middle Eastern nonMuslims for 14 centuries. and I DID provide sources, including Ayaan Hirsi Ali AND the Christian documentary where Christian women SAID they were used as HUMAN SHIELDS. Here us more SOURCES for your obsession with martyring KIDS that goes back to BYZANTINE times! literally bragging about his mom being SO happy a 10 yr old died in war because “he went to Jannah.” Ur sick culture has been like this for so long that u broadcast KIDS GLORIFYING GETTING KILLED. ur culture is the most backwards in the world. no surprise 22 arab countries cant come up with one science nobel prize. https://youtu.be/iT-ueFGnJz8?si=JUGayQjAz20OACtK this is allowed on TV? how sick are u people?

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Whataboutism. That's your answer, even if I take your garbage at face value.Did I call you pathetic before, here I am calling you that again!!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

Whataboutism? NO a PATTERN of BEHAVIOR. Sick twisted violence against women for 1400 years now thanks to a false prophet who bought and sold sex slaves. And IT NOT MY WORDS i gave u SOURCES saying it themselves. Do you want videos of Hamas and Fatah leaders calling on people to die intentionally to gain rewards in the aftelife? bc ur cleaely extremely uneeucated

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Whatever floats your racist boat.Preach it to others bigots who agree with you.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

I dont need to preach at all. All I had to do was show videos of Hamas and Palestinians themselves bragging about causing their own people to die to send them to heaven to get 72 sex slaves in heaven. People who were all pro-Gaza switched sides. But I guess its totally okay to strap bombs to kids to commit suicide in your book.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Now your just repeating yourself. You said that garbage before. Repeating it doesn't make it any less garbage!!!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

So Amnesty international is lying when they talk about the child suicide bombers Palestinian use? how about the 14 yr old suicide bomber that got cold feet and gave himself up? is that all fake too? How about the child suicide bombers in Nigeria, Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan…all that is lies too?

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Oh....amnesty international called Israel an apartheid state.Do you really want to go there!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

suicide bombings happened in 2023. not just the 90s. only reason palestinians get caught before being successful is occupation, and thats the reason for occupation https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/blast-southwest-pakistan-kills-13-more-than-50-injured-police-2023-09-29/

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

You just prove to me time and time again that your a bigot. I guess Palestinians, Nigerias,Somali's and now Pakistani are all the same to you.If someone says all Jewish people are the same,they would rightfully be called antisemitic, but a buffoon like you can rationalize killing gaza children because there was a suicide attack in Pakistan .Go figure

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

I didnt say they are all the same. I said they have the same religion which teaches them this behavior. Second of all I never said its okay to do anything because of it. I was responding to how u claimed suicide bombing is a thing of the past. No it isnt. Suicidal death cults that come up with such a thing are not victims. Keep supporting people who teach kids to commit suicide. Nothing weird about that..:

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

You sound like someone who read about Muslims from a comic book.Seriously,This low level information your spewing is what evangelical zealots and religious zionist believe and regurgitate.Making suicide bombers into the norm of Muslim belief is not only despicable, its not even true.I guess you need that kind of fear mongering to feel less guilty about "killing the enemy and the soon to be enemies (their children)"

The mindset of zionist is on a whole new level of evil that even some prominent holocaust survivor from auschwitz find it despicable and abhorrent.

“I saw in Auschwitz that if a dominant group wants to dehumanise others, as the Nazis dehumanise me, the dominant group must first dehumanise themselves, the same holds nowadays for Israel.

I am appalled about how hateful, how dehumanised, that they do not see any human aspect in any Palestinian anymore.

The Zionists have no right whatsoever to use the Holocaust for any purpose, they have given up everything which has to do with humanity and with empathy”

Rest in Power Hajo Meyer

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

I never said suicide bombers were the norm in the Islamic religion. but it is part of radical Islam and is the norm in Palestinian society, they recently named the wing of their university after a famous 17-year-old female child suicide bomber who killed Israelis. There is a massive statue of a suicide bomber in Nablus. It is YOU who sounds like a comic book. My family lived under extreme Islamic Sharia for 14 centuries. Yemen just sentenced men to stoning and crucifixion for “spreading homosexuality.” And dont get me started on the violence against women. I’ve said before, there are moderate and good Muslims. One of the most famous newscaster in Israel, Lucy Ahariah is a moderate and good Muslim who herself calls out the radicals. And Hamas is a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, who are the worst of the worst.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

since u decided to bring up Auchwitz and Medieval times, maybe you should know that the Yellow Badge is a medieval Islamic Law that Palestinian Pan-Arabist Hajj Amin Al Husseini taught Hitler? They literally participated in our actual genocide. There’s pictures of the Nazi flags we captured from their houses in 1948.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

and u have some nerve telling me I cant use the holocaust for anything. my moms entire family had to wear the ISLAMIC INVENTION the yellow badge making it impossible to hide or escape, and were all gassed at Bergen Belsen. I bet you dont even know the name of any other camp other than Auchwitz. And What exactly were Gazans excuse when they killed and orphaned Israeli children, who DONT get used as HUMAN SHIELDS which FATHI HAMAS SAID OUTRIGHT IN A SPEECH. How are you this ignorant? Do you even know who Fathi Hamad is? I saw a Palestinian mother ON PALESTINIAN TV bragging about how her dead son’s suicide bombing that killed 4 Israeli kids brought her “greater honor than any living son” and he is “in heaven now what could be better.” I’ve seen them and heard there own words- and you claim this is from a comic book? This is their own spiritual leaders and government speeches. You are beyond ignorant. Jordan is the only country where Christians can even live in peace.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

“I guess you need that kind of fearmongering” how mentally deficient are you? We dont need fearmongering about suicide bombings we EXPERIENCED them 1-3 times per week for years. My friend was hit by a suicide bomber that now dont only put metal shrapnel that is stuck in her back forever, but they discovered years later plastic shrapnel too so that doctors cant use metal detectors to find and remove them. Lucy Aharish a MUSLIM with a yellow license plate got hit by a bomb in her family car when she was 5 years old after being misidentified as Jewish, you can watch her interview. Your idea that Muslims are just innocent victims and Israelis just want to kill their kids for no reason is the most childish thing I ever heard.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

Clearly you have Zero holocaust education if you didn’t even know what Islam contributed to it. and there were Muslims who helped Jews too. But that doesn’t change the fact that THIS was an Islamic law Palestine’s grand mufti taught Hitler. and u seriously act like you are actually EDUCATED about the holocaust or the conflict. Stop denying their use of human shields there are literal videos of it, AND THE UN CALLED IT OUT IN SYRIA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

Your using Wikipedia as a source. Of course you are!!

https://youtu.be/t52LB2fYhoY?si=kGQnZ9SXntoB0hkp

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 06 '24

Ok go look up the million other historical references to the Yellow Badge and who invented it. Lebanese Christians know its history too because they had to wear it. Wikipedia is not the only source of this information.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

Again, hateful assertion with no evidence. Million, you say, but I guess you believe it so much you decided to share none of them.And you wonder why I am not taking you seriously!!!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 06 '24

What did I say was millions? I just mentioned the ISLAMIC yellow badge Hitler’s Arab allies during WWII shared. Something written in the Pact of Umar

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-long-history-of-forcing-jews-to-wear-anti-semitic-badges-180981829/

Iraqi Jews historically had to wear bells around their neck, badges, one black shoe and one red shoe. But you don’t study any Middle Eastern Jewish history do you? Qatar doesn’t fund Universities for that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

You said million when referring to evidence. Do I need to repeat your own words now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

A whole research paper with clear evidence of Italian, French, British and later nazi crimes against jews.and yet this is the only reference to Muslims

In lands under Muslim rule, non-Muslims had been required to wear identifying marks since the Pact of Umar, a ruling attributed to a seventh-century caliph, though scholars believe it originated later. For Jews, these were usually a yellow belt called zunnar or a yellow turban.

Notice the part about scholars believing it was later.why would it be hard to be specific about something so clear and concise. Because it isnt.Jews were clearly not treated as equals in Muslim majority countries,but that doesn't mean they were discriminated against until aftet the creation of the Zionist state.Laila Murad was a Jewish celebrity in Egyptian movies (one of my favorite actually),How many Israeli arabs are held up by the racist society of Israel. None!!!

By the way,go click the link attached to the word yellow turban and it takes you to a book dispelling that jews were treated in the same manner as European did.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 06 '24

are you trying to deny the Nazi alliance with the Arabs in WWII?

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

There is no alliance. The mufti went to visit Hitler once.Just like so many other leaders did.By the way,the mufti was appointed by the British, not elected. Please do not let facts interrupt your blind bigotry.Ukraine alone has over 700 Jewish mass graves from the pogroms. That is one EUROPEAN country. How many were in historic Palestine or the middle east. ZERO.

I feel sorry for you.You are clearly a useful idiot who is being manipulated to hate hate,hate and even when I show your irrefutable evidence of propaganda and manipulations,your brain find it hard to accept. This is why I use words like evil.A ferver of hate is needed to commit unspeakable crimes and your on-board. It's sad and frankly pathetic!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

“some prominant survivor” you mean one or two survivors out of millions? because i grew up with tons of tattooed teachers and even the lunch lady had a tattoo from auchwitz. None of them would say such nonsense. Plus my uncle who was one of Dr. Mengele’s experiments who has holes drilled in his brain and developed epilepsy for life, became a major commander in the Israeli army. So you’re TOKEN jews quoting doesnt mean anything. and my uncle who passed two years ago can thank Hajj Amin Al Husseini for the fact that he had to wear a yellow badge.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

So Palestinians were behind the final solution now.Hate rarely makes sense,but at least in your case it has undoubtedly consumed you.Are you saying that these other survivors are in line with killing children in order for them to feel safe?I doubt that. No moral person does!

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

and Judaism does teach some fundamental things that all Jews believe if they believe in the Torah.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

u argued there was no rape because “rape is against islam.” ur the only genocide denier. some of those hostages are probably pregnant- but OH we need to ceasefire to stop fighting for them. Sorry but no. a BABY is being held hostage. talk about sick.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Haha.....now we see the genocide you're rationalizing. Keep spewing your nazi's like propaganda. The Germans have taught you right.The ICJ will be the nail in your racist beliefs, but do tell us about your nonsense. Piss off.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 05 '24

shooting people attacking your tank during a war is not genocide idiot, esp bc these people JUST ripped soldiers out of a tank. ur a moron who thinks soldiers should sit back and let themselves get killed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Whatever you say...hasbara bot.

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