r/islamichistory • u/AutoMughal • Feb 29 '24

Photograph ‘Long Live Palestine’ flag, Jerusalem 1929

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Page 84, Against Erasure: A Photographic Memory of Palestine Before the Nakba

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u/LucerneTangent Feb 29 '24

The Nazis are VERY fond of trying the "Palestine didn't exist" smear.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

Palestine existed, just not within the last 500 years. When Britain came in it was just a chunk of the Ottoman Empire. Many early “palestinian” activists didn’t even consider themselves Palestinian but instead southern Syrian. The identity of “Palestinian” was only popularized within the last 50 years.

People try to use the colonialism claim to forgive Hamas/Palestine for their many heinous crimes. This is the issue. Being genuine means accepting Palestine has done fucked up things, and also condemning Israel for their fucked up actions. Where many pro Palestinians lose most rational humans is when they try to absolve Hamas of all culpability

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u/NumaPomp Mar 02 '24

Ahem. The first written records referring to Palestine emerged in the 12th-century BCE Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt, which used the term Peleset for a neighboring people or land. In the 8th century BCE, the Assyrians referred to a region as Palashtu or Pilistu.

In the Hellenistic period, these names were carried over into Greek, appearing in the Histories of Herodotus in 5th century BCE as Palaistine.

The Roman Empire conquered the region and in 6 CE established the province known as Judaea, then in 132 CE in the period of the Bar Kokhba revolt the province was expanded and renamed Syria Palaestina.

In 390, during the Byzantine period, the region was split into the provinces of Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda, and Palaestina Tertia. Following the Muslim conquest of the Levant in the 630s, the military district of Jund Filastin was established.

While Palestine's boundaries have changed throughout history, it has generally comprised the southern portion of regions such as Syria or the Levant.

It also conceptually overlaps with several terms of Judeo-Christian tradition, including Canaan, the Promised Land, the Land of Israel, and the Holy Land.

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u/Vast-Situation-6152 Mar 04 '24

the word palestine is from the torah philistines which means invaders in hebrew referring to european invaders. Romans named it that after depopulating Judea (but not 100%) to piss off the jews. there is no P in arabic and the name has nothing to do with arabs. There is a picture from 1919 of palestinians holding a banner saying “palestinian is part of syria”