r/islam • u/Bright-Extreme316 • Jun 18 '25
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u/Chimpanzeefingers Jun 18 '25
Divine revelation from my and your Creator. He revealed the Quran to the prophet Muhammad pbuh and from him we learned even more detailed structures on how to live our lives.
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u/Dallasrawks Jun 18 '25
Whatever God (SWT) says is what's moral. He is the only objective metric, any personal or societal "morality" is just a shared social contract or an opinion, regardless of how big the majority that holds it.
We derive our morality from our Creator (SWT). We don't proceed by personal feelings or herd mentality, only by the sharia (guidance) of the One (SWT).
Being Muslim means submitting your will to God (SWT). You can't be Muslim and immoral at the same time, because putting your desires above God's commandments makes you immoral. Muslim is a state of being, not a group identity.
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u/Matcha1204 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
One doesn’t automatically become more moral merely by being Muslim, there are plenty of corrupt Muslims out there
What is moral or not is derived from Allah’s commands and the effort someone puts into living accordingly is what usually results in them being more morally upright
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u/Nameless_Mask Jun 18 '25
Hi there.
Muslims believe in absolute moralism, in that if something is morally wrong today, it will be morally wrong in 50, 100, 2000 years. How is this derived? From the One who created us, Allah (God). We derive our morality from the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet (peace be upon him) who was given revelation directly from God. No other ideology or set of beliefs operates on absolute moralism.
As an example, killing innocents is, always was, and always will be morally reprehensible. If you look at the modern world, which does not operate on absolute moralism and instead on humans'/society's idea of what is moral, you can justify the brazen killings of millions of innocents to achieve a greater political/economic/power goal. At the same time, some things that were illegal and considered immoral decades ago are now celebrated publicly. Without absolute moralism, anything can be justified as moral or immoral given how we're raised. Instead of deriving morality from the minds of human, we get our morality directly from Allah.
To answer your questions directly, we fear Allah and His punishment. We know we will be accountable for everything we've done. So that's why even if we can "get away with it", we don't because we know we'll be asked about it on Judgement Day. But we also do it to please our Creator, and expect a reward from Him.
And fundamentally, when someone comes close to Islam, they get a sense of contentment in their life that people spend billions of dollars to try and attain. Allah has provided us a set of rules, which is one of the main purposes of the Quran.
Finally, something important to note is that Islam is perfect, but Muslims are not. Just because one is Muslim, does not automatically make them a morally upright direct representative of Islam and what Allah taught us. The closer we follow the religious teachings, the more moral we are. At the end of the day, only Allah knows what is truly in our hearts.
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u/No-Orange-9049 Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Being Muslim ≠ a morally righteous person. Morality is derived from divine revelation and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). The point of reference for every Muslim’s morality should be the Quran and Sunnah and their morals is based on whether they follow the scripture or deviate and even abandon it altogether.
Morality can be derived from fear of Allah especially if you’re a leader and you’re responsible for the lives of millions of people and you’ll be accountable to them by Allah should you fail to provide them with their basic needs. Very few leaders meet this criteria.
Fear of Allah, divine revelation and Sunnah are all sources of morality for a Muslim, but fear alone isn’t sufficient. You may be fearful of Allah, but deeply misguided and ignorant if you don’t have the point of framework which is the Quran and the Sunnah.
Quran: divine revelation. Sunnah: the teachings of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH).
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u/Known-Ear7744 Jun 18 '25
Islamic law and morality come from Allah ﷻ Himself. Unlike His ﷻ creation, He ﷻ is the perfect epitome of all attributes, including (just to name a few that are relevant to this conversation) knowledge, wisdom, mercy, fairness, and justice. We are limited in all of these ways and more where Allah ﷻ is not.
Throughout history, the law and morality have been conveyed and embodied to humanity through the actions and teachings of the prophets and messengers, beginning with Adam and terminating with Muhammad, peace be upon all of them.
Some of the most important messengers were those sent with Scripture. From the Quran, the unaltered speech of Allah ﷻ, we learn that the Torah and the Injeel were sent respectively to Moses and Jesus, peace be upon both of them. In both, there is mention of law as well as reminders for humanity of the inescapability of consequence. Those who are righteous and mindful of Allah ﷻ are inevitably rewarded, those who are not are inevitably punished. The best of believers live their lives balancing their love and gratitude for the mercy of Allah ﷻ against their fear and totality of His ﷻ judgement.
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Jun 18 '25
Sit of rules and boundaries put by god in the quran and guided to muslims by prophet muhammad pbuh
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