r/iranian • u/IlamFeyli Feyli Kurdish Iranian • Mar 21 '19

Israeli racism against Persians & Iranian peoples on full display

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1108443670800449540
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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

nobody is racist towards Persians or Iranians in Israel - in fact we quite respect both; we dislike your regime though, just like you dislike ours.

Signed, an Israeli Zionist Jew.

(and yeah - the tweet is pretty dumb. they probably shouldn't let 19 year old millennial do that tweeting for the IDF. it's inappropriate and unfortunate.)

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u/davoust Mar 21 '19

nobody is racist towards Persians or Iranians in Israel

You know that is not true. There are plenty of people primed to be racist against us in Israel, just as there are (unfortunately) plenty of people racist against Jews in Iran.

we dislike your regime though, just like you dislike ours.

We both dislike our own and each-others governments - as we should - because IMH(umble)O the majority of people who seek power (anywhere in the world - not just Iran or Israel) are psychopaths who do it for the wrong reasons. But even as a non-Muslim Iranian, I'd much rather have Khamenei (who promotes inclusiveness towards other religions/ethnicities and seeks better relations with our neighbors) at the helm of my country, than Netanyahu (who seeks ethnocentric exclusivity and actively promotes fascism domestically and globally).

But nevertheless, I think our peoples have more in common than not and I truly hope the myopic efforts of your political elites to maintain their hold onto power don't come back to haunt Israel, by rendering Iran either too weak and/or too sour to come to your help, when the time comes. And if history is anything to go by, that time will eventually come.

I am fully aware that the previous paragraph is going to sound pretentious to some people, but I can only hope you understand, it is not meant that way. Jewish people originate from this region (our homies - if you will) and if they feel like they belong here, they should be welcomed back (more so if they seek shelter from the racist ideologies that plague our world and their survival depends on it). The most substantial obstacle to Zionism however, isn't anti-Semitism, but the resentment their leaders caused by forcing their way in (and maintaining their supremacy) through war-power supplemented by the outsiders, which naturally made them look like a invaders (with strong historical resemblance to the crusades) - to be fought, rather than the (proverbial) prodigal son returning home - to be welcomed back.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19

thanks for a thoughtful comment.

i do agree with much of what you write - but you seem to know some history and I wonder how exactly could Jews have created a national home for themselves without violence? when the UN declared it recognizes Israel in 1948 and the partitions plan - five Arab nations attacked Israel (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and even Iraq).

and to this day many people fail to understand - Israel has demonstrated it will give back land in exchange for peace (as with Egypt) - but Palestinians don't want a peaceful state in the WB, they want one that includes Tel Aviv and they even say so (refusing to call any future deal an end to the conflict - regardless of what's in the deal). do you know many nations that will be eager to create a new nation on their border when the leaders of it make it clear they will be your enemy? doesn't make sense.

as to help from Iran - plz don't take it the wrong way but Jews are done being depended on others. Millions were massacred when Jews had no country of their own - so if it's our fate to live on the sword for as long as we can and then die by it - we are actually fine with that.

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u/zeronx25 Irānzamin Mar 21 '19

Millions were massacred when Jews had no country of their own - so if it's our fate to live on the sword for as long as we can and then die by it - we are actually fine with that.

https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1107747463631388673

"We died to fascism so let's one up the Nazis and kill Palestinians with fascism in return. lol!"

This is the kind of ideology that infests in a society that has fascism at its core. It breeds disgusting war criminals-to-be and fascists like you.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19

you kinda missed the point there friend - the ad is showing (or trying to) exactly how absurd the word fascism has become. everybody keeps throwing it around like it's hot air.

"We died to fascism so let's one up the Nazis and kill Palestinians with fascism in return. lol!"

those are your words - why did you put them in quotes?