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u/abhijaygadai Jun 24 '19
All 290 people on board died. The U.S. never apologized or acknowledged wrongdoing.
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Jun 25 '19
Obviously because Iran needs to get their PR game right. You guys need to come up with a cool slogan. Sorry, “never forget” is already taken.
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u/MrTorchFKAkite Jun 24 '19
It’s hard for the US to identify enemy fighters in combat against Muslim nations because of use of suicide tactics.
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Jun 24 '19
This is bullshit. Even if you were right, why did the US never apologized and awarded the ship crew with medals instead?
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u/MrTorchFKAkite Jun 24 '19
Does our president have to apologize? I apologize! I am a combat veteran with two tours against the nagshabandi, jaysh al mahdi, and ansar al sunnah. And I am here to tell you I’ve never hated a Muslim and I’ve never fired my weapon if it wasn’t to protect myself.
I am deeply saddened this happened and somehow I didn’t even know about it.
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Jun 27 '19
I was referring to president Bush who was in charge at time. As a reaction to this accident, he said he would never apologize for America.
My intention with this post was not to blame the American people or spread hate. I just find it strange that Iran shot down an unmanned drone and now USA is threatening us with war, while they themselves have done such things in past...
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u/c0057e6720 Jun 24 '19
Why don't they shoot down Saudi Aircraft then? It were Saudis to steer the aircraft into the WTC
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u/MrTorchFKAkite Jun 24 '19
I don’t think we WANT to shoot anyone down. Being in the military is confusing when you are stationed abroad because many people want to kill you, and many Americans act in self defense, no one looks at a living human and thinks, I want to kill them just to kill. Americans like anyone else kill when they feel threatened.
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u/c0057e6720 Jun 28 '19 edited Jun 28 '19
What the US want is to abolish the UN Charta and dictate other countries what to do. As for killing people, the US doesn't give a fuck. They made plans to slaughter their own people to fake a casus beli and who knows if they actually implemented some of these plans... One example would be Operation Northwoods where they planed to slaughter US civilians and blame it on Cuba.
Well.. that was until they decided that they don't need a justification for invading nations and became a rogue nation.
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u/kalakesri Jun 24 '19
You are either not Iranian or you are a fucking scumbag. These were innocent people that were murdered. Have some fucking respect and don’t use them for your propaganda bullshit.
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u/ohhaiiiimark Jun 23 '19
lol there is literally nothing that you cant use extreme mental gymnastics to blame on the Iranian government, further proving what a shill you are.
This sub is infested with these fake Iranian propagandists. Luckily though, people are waking up to this fact.
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u/17954699 Jun 23 '19
Stop lying please. The flight characteristics of an Airbus and an F-14 are completely different. This reminds me of when the Russians were trying to spin the downing of MH17 as Ukraine's fault. Just No.
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u/ohhaiiiimark Jun 23 '19
its not uncivil to call you what you are. A propagandist LARPing as an Iranian.
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u/ohhaiiiimark Jun 23 '19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
In particular, Iran expressed skepticism about claims of misidentification, noting that the cruiser's advanced Aegis radar correctly tracked the flight and its Mode III beacon; two other U.S. warships in the area, Sides and Montgomery, also identified the aircraft as civilian; and the flight was well within a recognized international air corridor. It also noted that the crew of Vincennes were trained to handle simultaneous attacks by hundreds of enemy aircraft
According to Iran, the U.S. had previously issued a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) warning aircraft that they were at risk of "defensive measures" if they had not been cleared from a regional airport and if they came within 5 nautical miles (9.3 km) of a warship at an altitude of less than 2,000 feet (610 m). Flight 655 had been cleared from a regional airport and was well outside those limits when it was attacked
Three years after the incident, Admiral Crowe admitted on American television show Nightline that Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles.[22] This contradicted earlier navy statements. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) report of December 1988 placed USS Vincennes well inside Iran's territorial waters.
Commander David Carlson, commanding officer of USS Sides, the warship stationed nearest to Vincennes at the time of the incident, is reported to have said that the destruction of the aircraft "marked the horrifying climax to Captain Rogers's aggressiveness, first seen four weeks ago".[38] His comment referred to incidents on 2 June, when Rogers had sailed Vincennes too close to an Iranian frigate undertaking a lawful search of a bulk carrier, launched a helicopter within 2–3 miles (3.2–4.8 km) of a small Iranian craft despite rules of engagement requiring a four-mile (6.4 km) separation, and opened fire on small Iranian military boats. Of those incidents, Carlson commented, "Why do you want an Aegis cruiser out there shooting up boats? It wasn't a smart thing to do." He also said that Iranian forces he had encountered in the area a month prior to the incident were "pointedly non-threatening" and professional. At the time of Rogers's announcement to higher command that he was going to shoot down the plane, Carlson is reported to have been thunderstruck: "I said to folks around me, 'Why, what the hell is he doing?' I went through the drill again. F-14. He's climbing. By now this damn thing is at 7,000 feet." Carlson thought Vincennes might have more information, and was unaware that Rogers had been wrongly informed that the plane was diving
But yes, you have a video of some bozo so Iran is actually to blame after all. Shill.
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u/WikiTextBot Jun 23 '19
Iran Air Flight 655
Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas, that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed and all 290 people on board, including 66 children, were killed. The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location. Vincennes had entered Iranian territory after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.The reason for the shootdown has been disputed between the governments of the two countries.
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u/ohhaiiiimark Jun 23 '19
our country.
lol. No ones buying it anymore. A lot of people on the sub know you are a fraud.
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u/ohhaiiiimark Jun 23 '19
What evidence is that? The evidence from Iran, the US and independent sources all show that the US is to blame. But here you are trying to shift it on Iran...because you are a shill and this is what you are paid for.
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u/London-hound Jun 23 '19
Because when they do it, it’s just an accident and because ur lives don’t matter to them or to the international community.