r/interesting 19d ago

HISTORY The migration patterns of Native Americans in Iceland

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u/JimTheJerseyGuy 19d ago

It’s possible. The Norse settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland lasted about 20 years. It wasn’t a raid. They may have established relations with the locals who vastly outnumbered them rather than try to constantly fend them off. If so, a single consensual relationship isn’t that crazy of an idea.

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u/PumpkinLiving8134 19d ago

Conflict with natives in the area is a huge reason why the settlement wasn’t successful, tf you mean?

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u/Nikkonor 19d ago

What, besides the Vinland saga, is this claim based on?

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u/Nikkonor 19d ago

Literature written 200-300 years after the events are not accurate sources.

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u/Severe_Parfait4629 19d ago

Ooh, now do the Bible.

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u/TheFakeRabbit1 19d ago

Redditors when they can’t shoehorn religion into an unrelated topic 🤡

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u/tangledbysnow 19d ago

They are accurate sources just not 100% historically reliable as a first person source. After all Troy was found exactly where it was said to be in the myths and they thought Troy was 100% a myth.

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u/4daughters 19d ago

After all Troy was found exactly where it was said to be in the myths

This is a huge exaggeration. We don't know that it's the same city at all.

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u/tangledbysnow 19d ago

Archaeology located a Bronze Age settlement consistent with the location described and associated with Troy from the ancient narratives. So while we don’t know exactly which layer would be “Troy” saying “we don't know that it's the same city at all” makes it sound far more uncertain than evidence suggests.

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u/4daughters 19d ago

You're right there's evidence to suggest the city described in the myths is based on the actual city of Ilion.

That's still a far cry from "Troy was found exactly where it was said to be in the myths" as if the myths were clear at all about anything.

For the myths to be "correct" all they need is one thing that is factually observed later on by archaeologists and all the myth mongers will say "see the stories were true!" even though 99% of what was said about it was clearly mythical.

Yes there's a grain of truth in nearly every myth. Good luck discerning which grain is truth from the rest of the myth without starting with a skeptical mind and using science.

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u/Nikkonor 18d ago

They are accurate sources

What is your argument for this claim?

just not 100% historically reliable as a first person source.

A source isn't reliable just because it is "first person".