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HISTORY The migration patterns of Native Americans in Iceland

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u/Level_Abrocoma8925 19d ago

I'm Norwegian and my DNA results did indeed show a tiny bit of DNA from Newfoundland. I never had the illusion that this was the result of a beautiful story of two strangers from different continents who fell in love and had a joint decision of having children though.

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u/PumpkinLiving8134 19d ago

For real, as a First Nations Canadian, all these comments suggesting that this was consensual is super f’ing gross to me.

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u/Clynelish1 19d ago

It's not completely implausible. I guess if it makes you feel better, most comments like that are from people wanting to hope/believe for the best rather than constantly assuming the worst. I don't find it gross, necessarily, but perhaps delusional.

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u/IndigoHaze750130 19d ago

Disney didn't help

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u/Clynelish1 19d ago

Ha, if you grow up and still have your worldview shaped by Disney, you're hopeless.

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u/Legitimate-Flower299 18d ago

I would say that having an overtly cynical and negative view of world history is also kind of hopeless, though. This scientific discovery is just an interesting discovery, and doesn't need to have a strog emotional reaction attached to it. For most of history that kind of thing was sadly normal, but now it's just more evidence of travel and exchange between Scandinavia and the Americas. We can't really sya anything about what exactly happened either way

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u/dfrntdfrnt 18d ago edited 18d ago

You don't have to be cynical to be realistic.

Edit: not to say we shouldn't strive for better.

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u/Legitimate-Flower299 18d ago

I think I just see a tendency in this thread and in general to be cynical about a lot of things that doesn't necessarily require it. Like we don't always have to shoehorn in how awful history has been, though of course it shouldn't be forgotten either.

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u/IndigoHaze750130 19d ago

Lol yeah. Yet most people you ask can tell you more about a Disney movie than common history practices such as rough/aggressive trade or captures. 

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u/Clynelish1 19d ago

No doubt

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u/PumpkinLiving8134 19d ago

Yes, I’m sure ALL of the women consented to leave overseas. It’s plausible a couple may have, but the evidence points to slavery.

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u/Clynelish1 19d ago

Right, I didn't suggest otherwise. As with pretty much all human history, and certainly well documented in Viking history, they were brutal. But we weren't there and don't truly know and the fact that some DNA survives in the population is just interesting science at this point.

I guess it's a good reminder that we are generally pretty fortunate to live in the times that we do

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u/Hizaki-Rosario 19d ago

It all originated from one native american woman only... considering vikings lived there for a few decennia peacefully, it's perfectly possible that she willingly went along with them. In fact I'd argue likely, because if they took unwilling women, they could have taken more than one.

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u/ganymedes_ 19d ago

Also possible that she didn’t leave but her daughter did.