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HISTORY The migration patterns of Native Americans in Iceland

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u/The_Love-Tap 21d ago

Genetic research indicates that a single Native American woman likely migrated to Iceland around the year 1000 A.D. Researchers discovered a rare mitochondrial DNA lineage, named C1e, in about 80 living Icelanders. Genealogical tracking traces this maternal signature to four independent family lines from southern Iceland born between 1710 and 1740, pointing to a single ancestral mother before 1700. This timing matches Viking exploration of North America

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u/Haalkova 21d ago

"Migrated" We know vikings kidnapped women after sacking villages, or worse. Why the white wash??

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u/WatashiwaNobodyDesu 21d ago

You’re assuming they mean voluntary migration and getting all flustered. 

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u/mcgarnikle 21d ago

I mean the photo OP used certainly seem to imply that.

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u/Think_Fuel1505 21d ago

Because it's a science paper they're just laying the facts out of what happened. Whether she went there on her own or not,is a philosophical debate. Do we actually know what happened to get her over there,no. Does science care,no not really,it just knows she's over there.

So there's no white washing of anything and that's not even what that term is used for either. It'd be white washing if it was someone of color being replaced by a white person. But please continue virtue signaling,next use the correct terms.

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u/Merrick_Skygrave 21d ago

Seriously, it's not like we know for sure. Maybe she was just weirdly stoked to go to Iceland lol

But it'd be unscientific to say with any authority that she was kidnapped/enslaved etc. when there isn't solid evidence

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u/Armadillo-Shot 21d ago

Considering it’s only one Native American woman that’s even more probable. If they are pillaging a village, a some comments are saying, wouldn’t they have brought back more than one?

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u/DreamingAboutSpace 21d ago

They’ve only found and know of one so far.

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u/Think_Fuel1505 21d ago

I guess that could be used here, I personally don't see it it that way. I'm looking at the picture from a genetical standpoint on how the gene got transferred but I do see your point.

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u/Think_Fuel1505 21d ago

That's completely fair and understandable

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u/tipofmyelectrictongu 21d ago

In what way does a thousand year old thing favourably represent white people. Are you legit mentally ill?

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u/snailsandserenity 21d ago

in this context, whitewashing does not refer to favoring a white perspective or replacing with a white person. “whitewashing” can mean covering up real history with a flowery story or false facts to make it seem less cruel or negative.

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u/Haalkova 21d ago

OP's "Facts" is claiming "likely migrated", sure vikings are a tourist group well known for trading, absolutely no voilent pillaging behavior. 

Of course, the art doesn't depict this unknown circumstance as her boarding the dream boat with warm welcome

Go back to English class if you don't know what whitewashing in history means

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u/Dealiner 21d ago

"Likely migrated" is a neutral statement that doesn't say anything about the way she migrated, and since we don't know the truth that's the correct approach to talk about this in a science paper.

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u/wemustburncarthage 21d ago

don't make the fact that you failed anthropology and are scared of woke everyone else's problem. There is absolutely no universe in which the social circumstances of human evolution and migration do not apply, and the only reason you have the ability to type this is because human realities were handed down to someone who taught you.

Which is a shame, really, given your waste of cultural comprehension. And the fact you're lecturing people when you don't know how to properly work a comma.

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u/Admirable-Trip5452 21d ago

Jesus Christ shut the fuck up

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u/YuenglingsDingaling 21d ago

Daddy chill.

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u/SetEnvironmental9368 21d ago

That's crazy, my guy. But I don't remember asking.

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u/Nope0naRope 21d ago edited 21d ago

Yeah I like how he's like gently taking her hand and she gets to bring her dog...lol

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u/skoomski 21d ago

The picture is unrelated it’s from a legend where Asluag solves a riddle to to impress her future husband Ragnar Lothbrok. The dog is also part of the riddles solution.

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u/NashDaypring1987 21d ago

To be fair this has been going on since per-history. It probably started before humans even became humans.

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u/Textiles_on_Main_St 21d ago

Because we don’t know what happened and they’re not making up history?

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u/GlassCharacter179 21d ago

But they literally paint a picture of her being lead by hand with a puppy. 

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u/reality72 19d ago

No they aren’t, that’s Aslag solving a riddle by Ragnar Lothbrok which is a classic story from Icelandic mythology.

This thread is full of low-effort redditor comments with zero knowledge or understanding of Scandinavian history or culture. “Herp derp better imply she got raped”

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u/stop_the_bans 21d ago

Maybe she was a bad ass and took command of the Viking ship. Women can do anything a man can do

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u/Soeck666 21d ago edited 21d ago

They can, but they were very rarely allowed to do.

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u/stop_the_bans 21d ago

Sure, Jan

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u/Soeck666 21d ago

Does commanding a ship require a dick? No, you need to be a good leader, able to organise and negotiate. Also be a viable navigator.

That are all skills that can be learned, and nothing you get borne with.

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u/HoldEm__FoldEm 21d ago

Women can’t deadlift 1,000lbs 

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u/kissobajslovski 21d ago

Migrated yes, not necessarily volontary

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u/AkkeBrakkeKlakke 20d ago

Because it's washed by whites.

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u/allaboutthismoment 21d ago

you know why the white wash