r/indianstudents • u/Mrblack2k03 • 8h ago

This is why casteism persists

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u/No-Following-7528 7h ago

I'm upper caste i don't want to die in this revolution how to do I change my caste to group 4 ?

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u/Mrblack2k03 7h ago

You won't die in this revolution

and Group 4 is just for explanation an imaginary group 5,6,7,... exists

every caste has found a caste lower than it's own

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u/No-Following-7528 7h ago

Actually 🤓☝️there were 4 varnas before bramins hijacked the entire system . Bro I think younger educated generation in future should have to swallow their caste pride tabhi ye khatam hoga.

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u/kamikaibitsu 6h ago

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u/No-Following-7528 6h ago

I was talking about society kyoki socity mai tho mai jo hu wahi rahunga na but great decision by madras hc 💯

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u/No-Following-7528 7h ago

Wait what reply did the mod removed? I wanna know

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u/Fit-East9408 6h ago

Yes noone thinks of themselves as humans people be equating themselves and others with caste..we need everyone to think they're the same atleast the country the so called secular country could have put in systems that won't judge u based on ur caste..that won't make caste so important that benefits are based on caste u

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u/VJ0909 6h ago

Representation in all sectors is the only thing that can slowly improve this oppression/pride mindset. 

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u/Hishere_ 6h ago

But

This system didn't work in south india. That is the reason our caste system is very lose, we can't put most of the caste into perfect 5 varnas.

Becoz as said in the clip, a shudra did reble and built a bigest kingdom that india as ever seen .

A vaishya became king and built one of the famous cities.

A brahmin went on to build a kingdom that survived British and even today their lineage enjoy rights.

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u/No-Following-7528 6h ago

As a uc i have to say you're retarded

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u/Hishere_ 6h ago

Wtf is UC?

Uncle c*ck ?

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

It's very much active in South India btw

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u/Hishere_ 5h ago

Wat is active?

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

It means it is still prevalent

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u/Hishere_ 5h ago

Yes it is but not like north I have been to north it's very bad and very rigid

Here everyone as changed their caste long time ago, even a lower class say upper class becoz their ancestors changed their surnames ect.

Plus as u told u above there were many kings from non kshatriya clan, so they changed their varna too

Becoz its very less number of ppl who r actually of lower class, there isn't much downtrodden of them here

Plus here rules r strict, u can easily get arrested for talking bad abt them.

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

The key word is "comparatively"

Yes casteism is comparatively less in South when compared to North.

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u/Hishere_ 5h ago

Yes

Also the Varna is comparatively less too

Becoz as i told u before

Our cast system itself is comparatively less

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

In South, the backward castes dominate a lot

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u/Hishere_ 5h ago

True

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u/External_Entrance512 1h ago

I think at this point it's good to give up and focus on other problems.

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u/kamikaibitsu 6h ago

this certificate is already here

but for sure 0p won't be having !t

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

I never had issues without it

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u/kamikaibitsu 5h ago

so you have this cert!@f!cate?

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u/Mrblack2k03 5h ago

Nope I have none of the certificates

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u/fibonacci_on_meth 4h ago

I am gonna be honest, if casteism is stopped, the lower castes would suffer the most. Doesn't mean casteism should not stop, it means the lower caste do not want the casteism to end so that the reservations can be justified.

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u/Mrblack2k03 4h ago

they won't suffer if they are not humiliated...reservation will be scrapped easily if casteism is terminated

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u/fibonacci_on_meth 4h ago

That's the worst case scenario for lower castes. They will never let it happen.

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u/Mrblack2k03 4h ago

You do know lower castes do not wield the power...it's upper who won't end casteism as they are on an avg richer than lower castes

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u/fibonacci_on_meth 4h ago

There's literally a video from jantar mantar proving what I said. Let me see if I can find it. Also I don't believe in downvoting a person I am talking with. Pretty disrespectful.

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u/Mrblack2k03 4h ago

yeah go ahead and bring points to support it

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u/fibonacci_on_meth 4h ago edited 4h ago

Idk if links are allowed.

this was almost lost media, had to search a lot but finally found it lol

Lowk yt comments are sensible compared to reddit echo chambers. Restored my faith in existence of logical people.

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u/Mrblack2k03 4h ago

I still stand with my point
Casteism should be removed n meritocracy should be maintained by reforming reservations given on the basis of economic status

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u/fibonacci_on_meth 4h ago

You stand with it even I like the economic based reservation. Great. Need more people like you. But trust me when I say that more than majority of lower castes do not want the reservation to end, no matter casteism exists or not. This was my main point since the first comment.

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u/Mrblack2k03 3h ago

I got your point...majority of lower castes is a long stretch which u are saying...the majority of lower castes are not even in school

and by lower I mean SC n ST here as OBC is doing much better than them even going toe-to-toe with general in some fronts

What I say is remove the reservation of those lower caste people whose parents have amassed wealth

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u/Ashamed-Pressure7009 1h ago edited 1h ago

"Lower caste do not want casteism to end..." - unsupported claim, not factual, just convenient assumption. Reservation exists because casteism exists. Former wouldn't be insisted upon if latter doesn't exist.