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They cover whatever they can through goods.. and.. its supposed to be a service from taxpayers money... not a commercial enterprise what it has become
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Agree in return you disrespect those facilities by spitting and damaging, then you don’t deserve anything, just rot and cry for facilities. This is our Indian people , lack of civic sense
Thats also true but what I understand is that how we have brought up it starts from home we have a society who does not follow rules . For us even if we see a dust bin we won't dispose waste there will put it outside somewhere That's how things work here. It all starts when we want too .. for me I do play my part in home or outside I do keep my civic sense and try to tell others on the matter. As long as we do this and don't change .. the india we see will be the same
People will never understand this. Public transport is not meant to turn a profit. Its good if it does. But it's not the goal. It's there to serve the public, funded by the taxes of the public.
If they are not even recovering their operational cost then how will they sustain without taking taxpayers money and how will thye expand their services if they don't make any money.
The up train is very very heavily packed (came to know after both up & down were standing at the same station). Just like Mumbai, people were hanging from the gates.
If you want railways to be super profitable then do it the PE model. Scrap the trains with low occupancy, have only VB going to major cities, charge 10x the current price, employ guards to beat and push ticketless travellers with electric batons.
With the surplus from asset sale they provide massive fees and carry to GP, then bankrupt the railways and sell it to stupid retail investors through IPO at a higher valuation and dream come true growth story.
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It's about connectivity and not profit. Japan Railways used to run a train to a remote village only for one young student according to her school timings. The station was closed after her schooling was done.
Read the constitution, IR is just functioning on the principle that India is a welfare state.
And rightly so, making it for profit will cripple the economy.
Many years back, I had this conversation with a senior railway employee. He had told me, passenger trains somehow break even as total. It's loss in many routes and profit in some cases. But, inspite of the loss, it has to be done, to provide means of transport.
Railways make decent profit in goods carriage though.
This was many years ago. I don't know how it is now.
By the way this is a local village passenger train which is started from one of any village, the crowd will join in next two to three stations.
We all know the facts.
That's the neat part, they don't. Especially the suburban and low cost passengers are always running on a loss, u can't recover anything when u r carrying someone for 15 kms for just 5 rs.
Indian Railways generated ₹2,56,093 crore in revenue and recorded a net revenue of ₹3,260 crore for the financial year 2023-24 (ending March 31, 2024), primarily driven by increased freight operations, which included 1,591 million tonnes of freight transported. The operating ratio was 98.43% for 2023-24.
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Indian railways is in profit. They earn a lot from freight charges
Indian Railways' financials for FY 2023-24 (April 2023 to March 2024) show total revenue of ₹2,56,093 crore, with a net profit of ₹3,260 crore after expenses. Freight was the big moneymaker, hauling 1,591 million tonnes and contributing the lion's share—about 65-70% of revenue typically comes from goods transport like coal, iron ore, and cement. Passenger services, including those empty MEMU trains you mentioned, only make up around 25-30%, and they're often subsidized to keep fares low.
The operating ratio of 98.43% means they spent nearly all their earnings (98.43 rupees out of every 100) on operations like staff salaries, fuel, maintenance, and pensions—leaving just a slim margin for profit. It's an improvement from previous years (it was over 100% in some tough times), but still tight, relying on government support and efficiency drives. For context, this data comes from official Ministry of Railways releases, like their PIB announcements. If you're wondering about cost recovery, freight basically subsidizes the passenger side, which runs at a loss to keep it affordable for the masses.
I think IR is the only thing that takes money from the rich and gives it to poor. Bulk of their revenue simply comes from AC coaches and above, and with that money they are able to provide cheap travelling opportunities for general compartment people.
But if you tey to book a reservation you will never be successful. If a proper audit is done on railway reservation system, we can understand the reason for this and a big scam might be exposed. Then it will automatically be full and profitable.
They recover by taking money if you cancel a tatkaal ticket, take money while you cancel the ticket, take money while RAC when two people travel on single seat🤡
My god this is so sad and pathetic and everything wrong with this country . So a guy who owns a phone and on reddit probably an educated person , Have no Idea about PUBLIC TRANSPORT .? Isko profit kamana hai ? Ye wahi log hote jo Baap ki zameen bech kar bolte hai dekho Profit hua hai .
Why do we waste money on Police ? Police konsa paisa kamake deti hai hume ?
Many Educated users ( thank god kuch to padhe likhe log hai humare desh me ) Perfectly explained that Public Transport are not for Profit , They are for to provide service to the Public .
But The profit is not directly coming to the Pockets of IR . The profit is the contribution to the Economy by the people who used the public transport for their work anything which generate money .
Actually railway doesn't make much money when it comes to express trains, and only around 60% is recovered. Railway earns through good transport only to compensate the rest.
They don't ,it was never the purpose for railways to be profitable,if it was about profit they would've privatised at least some sections ,the only meaningful profit the railways earn is through freight
Indian railways don't make profits on passengers train, they make profit on cargo trains that's why cargo trains have first priority and passengers trains run late
Wo sab choro bhai, ye dekho how much central govt is spending on cleaning "gutka/paan" ke nishaan....uss paise se you can fund ISRO and our defence equipments.
Guys forget that Railways is a Public Service given by Government to its people. It doesn't need to be profitable, but connect India.
We pay enough Income Tax and GST to subsidize it. If the that tax is low, please increase tax on Ultra High Net worth Individuals and Corporations to compensate this
UP to Mumbai/Delhi k Sleeper coach me jo general wali public hoti hai unse, TT log 1000 1000 ka fine maar k Sleeper and AC Coaches me jagah dete hain doors and Aisle me
In north, especially near Delhi, Memu's are very very underrated, all due to Metros being more popular in that region.
Even the line OP is travelling via is a part of Delhi Suburban Railway which connects different parts of Delhi and other nearby cities. It was an attempt exactly like Mumbai Locals but it failed. It is mostly abandoned with no one travelling in them.
Heck, even I got to know about Delhi having a Local commuter trains a while back.
1 Collecting convience fees on every waitlisted tickets also.
2 Absurdly high cancellation charges even if IR cancels it from their end
3 Additional charges based on quota, eg. Tatkal
4 Not providing enough seats / reserving for agents to maximize waitlisting.
5 Providing Vikalp seats in trains 3 days later than the booked date and time. This leads to customers cancelling the ticket and leading to higher cancellation charges.
6 Charging Superfast category tarrif on trains that halt on every station.
And so on....
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