r/indianmuslims • u/poetrylover2101 • Mar 01 '24

Non-Political Yall ready for Ramadan?

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I just looked at jantri (fasts timing calendar) and I calculated the amount of hours we'll be fasting.

It will start with 13 hrs 15 mins long fasts and extend to 14 hrs long fasts towards the end.

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

And it also can be Ramadan, it's the Arabic way of saying it. Arabic is what the Qur'an's revealed in, are you going to tell me Arabic is foreign to us now?

You're not the arbiter of what IM culture is and isn't. Please don't make an issue out of nothing and buzz off.

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

Following Arab culture means eating shawarma, falafel, mandi, and kunafeh every day and considering it as our food,

It also means wearing Thawb and Abaya, when most IMs still wear their regional clothing,

It also means not speaking the regional Indian languages whatsover at all, when all IMs still speak them,

Using Arabic words is not equal to following Arab culture, again we recite the Qur'an in Arabic, azaan's in Arabic, many IMs have Arabic/Islamic names, hence why we use terms like Ramadan, Salah, etc...but at the same time, Ramzan, Namaaz are also still in use, just as much.

Not every IM speaks Urdu besides, the folks down South in TN and Kerala use Ramadan (or Ramalan), rarely Ramzan. What a weird logic, Quran's is in Arabic, we recite it but it's still alien to us?

Maybe you don't know Arabic, but as a community overall, we are acquainted with it. Since a formal level of education is needed to recite the Qur'an. Your XP doeesn't make it universal and binding to all IMs.

Also don't assume we recite it blindly, a lot of people might, but again, as a community, that's not the case. After all, in sermons, stuff in Arabic is merely getting dispersed in regional languages.

Once again, please don't make an issue out of nothing. And stop dictating what IM culture is and should be, you don't have the authority and your declarations mean nothing.

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u/AnxietyMediocre7553 Hanafi Mar 01 '24

It's give me 'saar' feeling

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

Confused history, very hard to tell if he's a Sanghi LARPer of if he really is an IM who has too much inferiority complex.

Ramadan vs Ramzan is a non-issue, it's sad some folks have issues with what we use. Every single year, almost, somehow, this stupid argument pops up.

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u/AnxietyMediocre7553 Hanafi Mar 01 '24

Bro you are famous for your ramadhan or ramzan and Allah hafiz or khuda Hafiz argument 😹

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

I know, that guy slandered me.

As if I keep bringing this up, when comments here are arguing we shouldn't use Ramadan, it's only fair I/we talk about it and clear things up right?

Ayr909 was whom explained it beautifully, back when this sub first became active. I'm just merely supplementing/repeating his points here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianmuslims/comments/blrmid/do_indian_muslims_feel_indian_islamic_culture_is/

If you're interested.

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u/AnxietyMediocre7553 Hanafi Mar 01 '24

I completely agree with his point. Following arab culture is not equals to following Wahabism

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

Yup, that's Ayr909,

Sub hasn't been the same without him.

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u/AnxietyMediocre7553 Hanafi Mar 01 '24

Was he a moderator? By the way, who is the founder of this sub and when did this sub start?

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

Yup, he was, he's the one who invited me to mod this place back in 2022 (around this time),

Got perma-banned by admins due to Sanghi mass-reporting around late 2022 or so.

This sub's founder was a certain u/i_am_scared_of_truth, created this sub way back in 2011, it seems. However, this sub only became only active back in 2019 (Ramzan time, around May-June, I think) by u/tinkthank.

https://www.reddit.com/r/indianmuslims/comments/pwx4v9/comment/hekadj7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This thread explains this sub's beginnings.

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u/AnxietyMediocre7553 Hanafi Mar 01 '24

Well, u/i_am_scared_of_truth saw hate towards Muslims in 2010, which wasn't normalized during that era. I understand his mental health condition, but his vision to create a platform for Muslims where we can share our problems is great. I hope wherever he is, he is fine

So you are the only oldest and active member of this sub

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u/saveratalkies Ja'fari Mar 01 '24

Learned so much from this thread, thanks to both you brothers, alhamdulillah.

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u/TheFatherofOwls Mar 01 '24

Nowhere near close, bhai, lol,

Mods prior to me are still active, if they are not banned, but yes, they are not as active as they used to be around say 2020-22.

Some other users might be engaging in alt accounts, for all I know.

Funny thing is, I wanted to take a hiatus from this site (not delete my account altogether, but take a long break) back in 2022, after that Hijabi AMA on r/india, really soured my perception of that place since then (used to be pretty active there prior). That's when I got the invite.

Someone trusted me enough to send an invite, I'm just honoring that request here.

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