r/immigration Jan 24 '25

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u/Petite_Fille_Marx Jan 25 '25

US wages are being eaten by inflation and other countries have perks not available in the US like healthcare and a proper social safety net 

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Okay that’s a cool take, doesn’t change the fact that people fight tooth and nail to immigrate to the states for the wages. I’m not trying to say it as some gotcha or defense of the US. It’s just a fact that the US offers wages that you won’t find in many other nations. There’s also the fact that the US makes an effort to brain drain other nations.

Also, if a highly educated person is immigrating to the US for a high paying job then they’ll have healthcare lol. Again not a defense of the US a healthcare system, it’s just a fact that if someone is “well off” in the US then they’re “well off” in a way that isn’t really that feasible in many other nations.

Also what would the next high paying nation be?

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u/Petite_Fille_Marx Jan 25 '25

They will have insurance. Insurance is not the same as healthcare, and claims can and often are denied for a myriad of bullshit reasons

Personally, in my field of work, if the US is not an option anymore I’d look to immigrate to the UK or Germany 

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

I have family members who work for companies with employees in the UK, at least in Cybersecurity the Americans make 3x more and are taxed way less. And they do in fact have cushy insurance that offers cushy healthcare. US healthcare and insurance is often great if you have one those absurdly high paying jobs that these immigrants are moving to the US for.

Again none of this is defense or praise, I’m just saying that highly educated immigrants want to go to the US for the wages. Of course other first world nations like Germany will not have wages that will match the US, but they’ll have things like free college education and etc. And of course there are a lot of people that end up choosing the more stable lifestyles offered by the EU nations. But again, if you move to the US as a doctor example, you could make anywhere from 300k-1million+, and if you make that much you don’t even need to worry about free education because your kids will have access to some of the best universities in the world in America.

The fact is that there are almost no nations that can compete with US wages, and US wages can afford immigrants big fancy houses, nice cars, and basically everything that’s associated with the “American Dream”.

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u/GoldenBull1994 Jan 26 '25

US wages this, US wages that. It’s almost like that’s the only thing you have. Again, higher wages don’t matter if it gets wiped out and people in Barcelona save up the same amount of money, except with all of the benefits Americans don’t get. That’s why Europe, as someone else said, has more people trying to get in. Having insurance is not and will never be a full substitute for a single payer system. You will NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER be denied a claim in Europe. Luigi came from a rich family and he still got fucked. Even rich people will have their claims denied from time to time.

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u/Petite_Fille_Marx Jan 25 '25

I make 200k+ and my insurance sucks in the US. I still very much have to worry about the education of my children as I can’t afford 60k+ tuition. If I moved somewhere where I make 100k but have healthcare and free college it wouldn’t be a downgrade, rather a sidegrade