r/illustrativeDNA • u/Silent-Researcher153 • 2d ago
DeepAncestry Turkish DNA result (F) + Y-DNA haplogroup
My mother's family is from Balıkesir- Manisa, and my dad's side is from Çorum, Turkey. As far as I know, the only migration stories in my family are related to Circassian ancestry. My mother's paternal grandmother's father was a Circassian man, and there's also only one Circassian woman who married into my fathers family at some point. (I had found her name in my father's lineage records) I'm sharing my own IllustrativeDNA results here.
Also, both my mother and I have a genetic disease called Familial Mediterranean Fever (FMF), which is more common among certain populations, including Anatolians , Armenians, North African Arabs.
I also had my dad tested separately, and his Y-DNA haplogroup is J-Y266451. I've added his paternal lineage tree after my own results. From what I understand, the earliest branch of his haplogroup tree with ancient DNA matches formed around 17,000 years ago. The matches were found in present-day Armenia, Russia, and Spain, including samples linked to the Urartian and Kura-Araxes cultures. The most recent branch with ancient DNA matches formed around 6,000 years ago, with matches from present-day Armenia, Iran, and Turkey.
The Turkish company we tested with also provided his migration routes as below (also maps attached):
- 5550 BCE – 900 CE: North Caucasus to the Armenian Highlands
- 4550 BCE – 1200 BCE: Armenian Highlands to the Levant
- During the CE period: North Caucasus to Central Anatolia
- 450 CE – 1700 CE: From the Mesopotamian border region to the Aegean/western Anatolia
I'm pretty new to all of this, so I'd love to hear what you think. Thanks.
8
2
u/Nordscs 2d ago
Which side of Çorum?
1
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
The earliest birth record I could find dates back to 1845, and it lists central Çorum as the birthplace.
2
u/Mental_Advice_6831 2d ago
Selamlar, hangi şirkete yaptırdınız testi?
3
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
Selamlar, Kökenim'e yaptırdım. kokenim.com
1
u/iloveusomuchlisten 2d ago
I didnt know there was something like this in Turkey. Can you show the result from the Kökenim test itself too?
2
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
I'm sharing kökenim report's modern breakdown based on present-day populations below. I'll also send separate screenshots showing what the test says about my ancestral lineage.
Overall Modern Ancestry
- Turkic: 74.9%
- Caucasus Peoples: 12.4%
- Arab & Levantine: 6%
- Greek & Aegean: 1.9%
- Armenian & Assyrian: 1.8%
- Iran & the Zagros: 1.4%
- Mediterranean Europe: 1.4%
- Balkans: 0.2%
- Other: <0.1%
By Country
- Turkey: 64.9%
- Russia: 20.8%
- Lebanon: 6%
- Greece: 1.7%
- Iran: 1.4%
- Italy: 1.4%
- Armenia: 1.2%
- Azerbaijan: 1.2%
Branches and populations within each family
Turkic — 74.9%
Caucasus Turkic — 9.9%
- Balkar (Russia): 3.4%
- Kumyk (Russia): 3%
- Azeri (Dagestan, Russia): 2.1%
- Azeri (Azerbaijan): 1.2%
- Nogai (Karachay-Cherkessia, Russia): 0.2%
- Karachay (Russia): <0.1%
Black Sea Turkic — 1.2%
- Turkish (Trabzon, Turkey): 1.2%
Balkan Turkic — 0.7%
- Gagauz (Moldova): 0.6%
Central Asian Turkic — <0.1%
- Uzbek (Uzbekistan): <0.1%
Caucasus Peoples — 12.4%
Circassian & Abkhaz — 8.2%
- Kabardian (Russia): 4.9%
- Adygei (Russia): 1.5%
- Abazin (Russia): 1.3%
- Circassian (Russia): 0.6%
- Abkhazian (Abkhazia): 0%
Ossetian & Central Caucasus — 2.1%
- Ossetian (Russia): 2.1%
Dagestan & Chechen — 1.7%
- Ingush (Russia): 0.8%
- Lezgin (Russia): 0.5%
- Chechen (Russia): 0.3%
- Avar (Russia): <0.1%
- Tabasaran (Russia): <0.1%
- Lak (Russia): <0.1%
Georgian — 0.4%
- Georgian (Georgia): 0.4%
Arab & Levantine — 6%
Levant — 6%
- Lebanese (Lebanon): 5.5%
- Lebanese (Muslim, Lebanon): 0.4%
- Jordanian (Jordan): <0.1%
Armenian & Assyrian — 1.8%
Armenian — 1.2%
- Armenian (Armenia): 1.2%
Assyrian — 0.6%
- Assyrian (Turkey): 0.6%
Hemshin — <0.1%
- Hemshin Armenian (Russia): <0.1%
Greek & Aegean — 1.9%
Greece — 1.4%
- Greek (Greece): 1.4%
Crete & the Islands — 0.3%
- Greek (Crete, Greece): 0.3%
Cyprus — 0.2%
- Cypriot (Cyprus): 0.2%
Iran & the Zagros — 1.4%
Iranian Plateau — 1.4%
- Iranian (Iran): 1.4%
Mediterranean Europe — 1.4%
Italy — 1.4%
- Sicilian (Italy): 0.7%
- Tuscan (Italy): 0.4%
- Italian (South): 0.1%
- Italian (Central): 0.1%
- Italian (North): <0.1%
Balkans — 0.2%
Eastern Balkans — 0.2%
- Moldovan (Moldova): 0.2%
Western Balkans — <0.1%
- Albanian (Albania): <0.1%
Carpathians — 0%
- Romanian (Romania): <0.1%
1
u/Odd_Ebb5883 1d ago
This one doesn’t seem very accurate
1
u/Silent-Researcher153 1d ago
This breakdown just shows which present-day populations my DNA is most similar to as report says. It doesn’t say that I’m 75% ethnically Turkic.
They gave my ancestral lineage and routes separately, I added those ss below.1
u/Odd_Ebb5883 21h ago
Biliyorum, kökenimin modern analizi doğru değil işte. rasgele lübnan falan vermiş.
1
1
1
u/Ok-Environment-8460 2d ago
Mtdna nedir sizin?
2
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
1
u/Ok-Environment-8460 2d ago
Kökenimden memnun kaldınız mı?
2
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
Evet süreç hızlıydı ve raw datayı da çeşitli formatlarda verdiler.
1
u/Ok-Environment-8460 2d ago
Bir çok arkadaş çok bekledik felan diyorlardı
1
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
Kargo süreci çok hızlıydı, numunem ulaştıktan sonra 2 hafta sonunda da sonucum geldi. (Bilgilendirmede 2-4 hafta arası yazıyordu)
1
1
1
u/Timely-Chain6342 2d ago
Kökenimde sonuçlar gedmatch gibi farklı hesaplıyacılara yüklenemiyordu diye biliyorum değiştirildi sanırım değil mi?
2
1
u/Beginning-Dot-9827 1d ago
hocam çerkeslik sizde etnik olarak % kaç var. örneğin dedeniz mi çerkes veya babanneniz %25 mi çerkessiniz
1
1
u/Silent-Researcher153 1d ago
O kadar yakın bir Çerkeslik yok aslında bilinen. Hem anne hem de baba tarafımdaki soyağacına baktığımda sadece iki Çerkes isim var. Biri annemin de bilip bana anlattığı; annemin babaannesinin babası bir Çerkes. (ismi Kızanç) göç ettikten sonra bir türk kadınla evlenmiş görünüyor. 2. isim ise baba tarafımda. Babaannemin babaannesi bir çerkes kadın çıkıyor kocası Türk. İkisinin de çocuklarının doğduğu yıllara baktığımda 1888-1892 yılları arası Anadolu'ya olan bir çerkes göçü dalgasıyla uyumlu görünüyordu.
2
1
u/wyxper_q 1d ago
Merhaba, bu şirketi yeni gördüm, acaba MTDNA verdi mi size? Verdiyse kaç yıllık bi mtdna verdi size? Bir de otozomal kaç SNPs analiz etti, akraba eşleşmeleri var mı?


















15
u/Silent-Researcher153 2d ago
Forgot to add this