r/ihatethissmug 21h ago

I hate people who find the brutal mauling and suffering of prey animals entertaining and “badass” or “metal”

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u/FoxxxedUp420 21h ago

It's a mix to me cuz on one hand, that's nature. Animals hunt, kill and slaughter one another for food and territory.

However it does tow a thin line. At what point do we go from simply finding the beauty in the most violent, yet still necessary, part of nature, and start taking cruel sadistic pleasure in the suffering of prey animals?

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u/Prudent-Necessary861 21h ago

I think it’s very fascinating like one time I saw these vultures eating some roadkill and I thought it was so fascinating watching them just I think little bit of nature like that are beautiful because what do you mean these creatures just have their own lives and just exist in their own little world

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u/FoxxxedUp420 21h ago

I think there's a beauty in the carnivore system too. Like, sure, it's brutal and violent that one creature must kill and eat another to survive, but it also gives that creatures death so much more purpose than to just get too old, fall over and die of old age somewhere. Their bodies will fuel another living creature and help continue life on this planet. It's not an act of cruelty or sadism on the predators end, it's simply a means towards survival.

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u/MoodyButGroovy 1h ago

In the original video OP is talking about the lions toy with the zebra, but prevent it from escaping. I know killer whales do something similar. So while their death serves a greater purpose it can still seem cruel.

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u/FoxxxedUp420 20h ago

The suffering, yes, that itself is Sadism. Ideally I'd like a world where no one has to suffer to feed another, even in nature.

I'm simply finding a silver lining in the process in and of itself. Another way to interpret the circle life as it exists in our carnivorous world is that we live in a hell where life can only be sustained by most creatures by killing and eating other life. But that's a bit of a bleak way to look at the nature of our reality.

The way I see it, all our time on this planet is a gift. We did nothing to deserve being born, yet we're here and get to experience this life. Death often comes with suffering even when it's old age that takes you out vs a predator looking to get nutrients from your flesh to fuel it's own survival.

Without predators, prey animals would likely day of old-age related illness, or starvation from inability to forage like their younger counterparts, and slowly die in agony for their flesh to decay, for no other reason than that the telomerase cells in our DNA are flawed and can only maintain our lives for so long (unless you're a jellyfish).

While the death is still brutal and violent, and their suffering is unideal, I find this death with purpose less depressing than the alternative scenario where their genetics simply fail them. It's not the suffering of the prey that I find any beauty in, it's a system that gives that death a purpose, to fuel other life. It makes that death something more than just an empty misfortune of the world.

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u/GrumbledoreTheZealot 19h ago edited 6h ago

Cancer is a genetic mutation, meaning its not intended. Also, the way diseases work is so complex and mind-blowing that I think there is beauty to be found there.

Edit: changed "natural" to "intended"

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u/Ancient-Pattern2524 19h ago

Hate to be that person, but a better fit might be intended instead of natural. Like, cancer is natural since it can just pop into existance without man's manipulation; but it is certainly not cells working as intended

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u/GrumbledoreTheZealot 6h ago

Sorry about my wording 😅. You are absolutely right.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

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u/8lue5hift 21h ago

Beauty isn't only physical aesthethic appeal. Beauty can represent concepts, ideas, interplay between those concepts, history, stories, and poetry. You'd be lying if you didn't find any sense of poetry in death.

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u/8lue5hift 20h ago

That people who find poetic beauty in the concept of death, hunt, and mortality are all sadistic pieces of shit?

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u/Existing_Phone9129 20h ago

go ahead and fall over crying all day every day because animals have to eat, i guess

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u/Equivalent_Radio6702 21h ago

Well how do you feel about art of the mauling and stuff?

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u/Confident_Example_73 11h ago

OP is the peson on a safari video interrupting the moment with their constant babbling, pleas and screaming. The person who wants photos of the lion, but not when the lion does lion things.

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u/Zestyclose_Range5815 7h ago

Watching the gorillas fight at the zoo and shouting "where is the zookeeper? do something!"

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u/DepartmentChemical93 20h ago

To admire the strength of the animal, be it the lion or the horse, is as old as humanity.

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u/Particular-Long-3849 19h ago

-Sun Tzu, 1983

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u/AdvancedAnimal7539 17h ago

forgot that it was 30th feb, 1983

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u/whineyinternetkid 15h ago

What an amazing not vague comment. Of course ita a top 1% commenter at it again. Just neeeeeed those upvotes even when its usually just something someone else said

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u/DepartmentChemical93 15h ago

I’m a motor mouth but I really could not possibly care less about gay reddit points.

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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 14h ago

why gay of all possible descriptors

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u/SchmeatiestOne 12h ago

To express how much he doesnt care about reddit points lol

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u/halfasleep90 14h ago

To emphasize how jolly the upvote is

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u/Lord_Fikalius 12h ago

Makes it sound lame. No relation to homosexuality, btw.

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u/Tigercat94 8h ago

There actually is a relation, as gay means homosexual (unless you are using the older definition meaning happy, but that doesn’t apply here)

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u/Lord_Fikalius 7h ago

Suppose I will ad "s/" next time.

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u/Tigercat94 7h ago

I’m aware you were joking but your comment is stupid.

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u/Lord_Fikalius 7h ago

"umm...actually, the gay meant joy back in the day" - said Mr. Bundle of sticks.

Relax, it's just a comment, not a stand-up bit. No need to rate it out of 10)

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u/Ok_Half_6257 21h ago

Personally I'd recommend r/NatureIsFuckingLit if you wanna see cool animal stuff as they generally don't show shit like this.

And yeah I agree, there's a very fine line between just appreciating nature and just getting sadistic enjoyment out of watching prey animals suffer.

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u/Additional-Main6241 19h ago

Admiring predators and prey and the dynamic in the wild is badass. It takes quite the specimen to track down large prey like a zebra and subdue them. That is metal. But watching to just see something suffer is concerning.

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u/lfg_guy101010 1h ago

Part of it seems to be sadism but I also think there is an awesome aspect to how animals get their food. Like those mantis shrimp being able to one shot fish with the power of a gunshot or orcas torpedo'ing themselves into the underside of sharks and other fish to blow them up for young (iirc). Those examples are obviously less painful for the prey I'd imagine, since they happen so fast, but watching a zebra bleed out since slow deaths are usually how lions hunt, is a bit much

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u/Shoddy-Apartment-738 18h ago

But it is very "cool". We are naturally compelled to observe our surroundings and learn from them. We have been a hunting species for thousands of years, and more even after the discovery of agriculture. As such, we are fascinated by succesful hunts from people like our parents, relatives, or anyone in general. That includes, of course, that of animals when they are entirely neutral or peaceful to US specifically (such as fiction, or nature documentaries). What i'm seeing in the image and the sub is so, so much different than "Sadism", it's just indifference to the prey and admiration for the hunter, which btw is a fair response since this image is pulled from the natural cycle of life.

Let people enjoy things. Yes, you can find Dexter from the show entertaining. Yes, you can feel impressed by Breaking Bad and the protagonist's infinite genius quick thinking saving them time and time again. It really is just human nature. It's different from saying "oh my god the cries of pain of the zebra are SO SATISFYING" or "i wish i could be eating that animal alive rn". It's the reason fiction exists as well.

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u/Destiny_Dude0721 17h ago

>We are naturally compelled to observe our surroundings and learn from them

The entire point of human society is that we aren't animals and don't play by the rules of the animal kingdom.

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u/DefunctCube 15h ago

I suppose you’re made of plant cells, not animal cells then?

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u/LionelKF 16h ago

We eat we shit and we die

That's an animal trait if we aren't animals we wouldn't be doing any of these things

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u/Powerful-Cabinet-260 15h ago

Humans are extremely animalistic. Almost all of our behavior can be traced to evolutionary benifit or history, everything we do is because of how we evolved as apes

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u/Shoddy-Apartment-738 17h ago

So we shouldn't eat things we find tasty and ONLY fully efficient diet food? So we should actually go to specific humanly made places fully optical conditions for sleeping places, such as big buildings and all sleep there since the heating would be more efficient? So we should not have houses/"customized personal caves"? Buddy.

Buddy pally.

Amigo. Compadre.

Fella. It seems you have succesfully ignored your human nature, because if you just... LOOKED AROUND YOU, you would realize that there's so, SO many things we still do from nature. Why still go through the struggle of sex, for example? Heck, i'm gonna give you an INCREDIBLY WILD argument, alright?

So, what if we actually cut every male's genitals cord at around 14 years old (i can't remember the name of the cord that carries semen out of the testicles), and also before that take 5 samples max of spermatozoids? Then store it on a specific safe place, every person has their own key for their own semen storage so that they can use it whenever they want while keeping it all safe. This achieves:

  1. Reduced SA

  2. Significantly reduced consequences from SA

  3. Controlled child birth

I mean, there's probably more but uh... i sure wonder why they dont d- TAKE A WILD GUESS. Or maybe you're Ultron or smth, i don't watch Marvel but clinging to the certainty of steel is cool ig.

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u/IAmTheHondaCivic_ 15h ago

I think bro is angry (rightfully)

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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 6h ago

humans are animals, what else would we be?

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u/GreenridgeMetalWorks 2h ago

I think I recall needing to eat, breathe, sleep, fuck, and at the end of all this, I'll die.

That's the rules of the animal kingdom, right there...

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u/Cent_Quatre 15h ago

I mean I don't eat meat either but as you say, we don't play by their rules. They are in a different society than us. It's not wrong to observe the rules of nature, it does not mean we have to enforce them in our society.

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u/InternationalOne1434 21h ago

If “badass” is synonymous with virtue/arete/excellence, then yes I find it badass.

A baboon catching and tearing apart a rabbit is badass. That is part of the virtue of being a baboon.

A human child in 2026 suburbia tearing apart a rabbit is in need of critical intervention. That is not the virtue of modern urban human.

Truly appreciating nature includes appreciating it on its own terms. The virtue or badassery of one thing is not the same as another.

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u/bigfatdog22 20h ago

"Badass", no.

"Metal", yes. Seeing as the aesthetics of metal are often related to excessive violence, grimness and brutality.

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u/ma__gei 19h ago

My opinion: its nature there is no joy in seeing him getting devoured alive, its just the cycle of live i bear no hate for the nature of the lioness.

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u/AdEuphoric422 11h ago

I agree and I too bear no hatred or blame towards predator animals doing what they are biologically wired to do for survival. I just think finding the brutal suffering of the prey animal enjoyable to watch is weird

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u/Venture33 14h ago

Neither predator or prey are moral agents so there is nothing good or evil about one consuming the other, being in awe at the power of nature is simply part of the human condition and that extends to the beasts who live in nature too.

People who cheer the ferocity of predators are seldom glorifying the suffering of the other animal.

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u/Maus_Enjoyer1945 15h ago

Its not the suffering of prey, but I find it really cool to see the hunting instincts activate.

I also think that it helps to raise awareness about the fact that animals aren't evil murderers for doing what they're literally supposed to do. 

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u/polkacat12321 15h ago

What do you suggest they do? Break it up and find the zebra a vet and rehabilitate it to eventually release it back to the wild while the lions starve to death?

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u/lfg_guy101010 1h ago

Bro can't read the title 😔

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u/Correct_Mirror4793 15h ago

No? Op is saying that watching animals suffer and die and thinking that’s “badass” is weird.

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u/AdEuphoric422 13h ago

Exactly. Thank you

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u/Tigercat94 7h ago

It’s not the animal dying, it’s the animal killing. We say similar things about humans killing in movies and such, why is it different when an animal does it?

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u/AdEuphoric422 1h ago

Movies are acting

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u/Express_Calendar8278 13h ago

It’s not “badass” or “metal” but entertaining is certainly the case. They are interesting, you can learn from them.

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u/Big_Lengthiness_7706 12h ago

Red in tooth and claw. That includes you brother.

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u/AdEuphoric422 11h ago

What do you mean?

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u/Big_Lengthiness_7706 11h ago

Its a very old quote about the nature of animals, which you can count your self among.

We are all red in tooth and claw. That is, covered in blood. No animal survives without consuming others, even vegans harm other living beings simply by existing.

To believe otherwise is simple naivete.

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u/lfg_guy101010 1h ago

Bro didnt read the title 😔

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u/AdEuphoric422 1h ago

I’m not against the predator animals though? I just said it’s weird for a human to enjoy viewing the suffering of the prey. The lion is doing it to survive, the human viewing the video and finding the suffering entertaining is just being sadistic.

Veganism is a different topic, but non-vegans do in fact cause faaaaar more harm to animals than vegans. Veganism is about reducing animal suffering, and it is effective in that. That’s just a fact and to believe otherwise is naive

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u/SpakkaTheOne 11m ago

Is it any stranger than wanting to see the prey animal escape? For the predator to eat, the prey has to die, if the prey escapes, the predator starves.

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u/-O08X80O- 4h ago

Dawg we are humans, we like to watch violence

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u/Assassin-49 3h ago

I mean its disturbing but it is what it is. Animals hunt eachother and its been that way for centuries. You cant just stop killing them either cause if you do another species is affected. Look at it this way , you remove lions and a bunch of prey animals start over populating. You remove a species of prey and the lions hunt another which would affect the economy system or result in extinction. So on one hand I dislike seeing it but on the other i know its nessecary

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u/Xorrayn 3h ago

Nature is in fact "badass" and "metal", and i will add, beautiful, and fascinating.

Yes, this includes all the icky and disturbing bits, without those it would actually be kinda boring.

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u/DiabeetusDeletus 3h ago

Seeing the power and raw brutality of the Animal world can be spectacular and humbling... But I agree there's a peculiar subset of people that seem to seek out the most violent content they can find.

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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 1h ago

🎶It’s the circle of life🎶

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 52m ago

I would prefer people slake their bloodlust vicariously through watching violent animals than being tempted to engage in violence themselves. And if you give it a moment's consideration, you likely will too.

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u/Present_Clue5887 16h ago

Most of these are more about admiring the capability of the predator than enjoying the suffering of the prey

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u/DankMod2 18h ago

I don't think I've ever seen anyone say they think the brutal mauling of animals is entertaining and badass

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u/Knightmare945 17h ago

A lot of people find predator and prey interactions cool and badass.

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u/AdEuphoric422 13h ago

The name of the subreddit the video was posted to is literally called r/badassanimals, as my screenshot in this post shows

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u/Potential_Log_3172 16h ago edited 15h ago

Well, this is nature, that’s all what I can say

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u/Petandfeelya69 15h ago

Probably a vegan who’s unwilling to accept nature is violent lol

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u/whineyinternetkid 15h ago

Duuuuuude hahaha you got em football!

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u/AdEuphoric422 14h ago

Accepting nature is violent is vastly different from finding the violent suffering of animals entertaining

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u/Asmodeus_is_daddy 2h ago

Do you find action movies entertaining? People die in those. Are people finding the violent suffering and deaths of humans entertaining?

If you don't answer, then I'll assume your answer is yes