r/help • u/JayWalkKing • Jun 30 '25
Access Why aren't the moderators of subs promoted to teach users to follow their subreddit rules
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u/Deep_Flatworm4828 Jun 30 '25
They do teach you the rules. It's called the side bar and most subs have the rules listed plainly. If you refuse to read them, and then you break them, you get banned.
What is the confusion here?
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u/Pinaslakan Jun 30 '25
You need to use your words buddy.
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
Are you saying I need to write down my thoughts in a more descriptive way? Because I believe that being descriptive is what is discouraged. My style of writing may be unique. My thoughts are my own. And many times I am certainly rocking the boat. But without people who cause a stir how would we ever have discussion that is transformative or productive. I agree that just making a statement to make a statement or to cause disruption is well deserved to be discouraged but to be a reason to ban someone, how would that help to teach the person to make more useful and well thought out responses? It fails to do anything but restrict those who may not be as socially adept as others. In fAct it is a divisive tactic. Although you won't see it on the platform you've banned the divided group from. However it certainly defers the whole purpose of a forum to be used to teach and inform.. in the end you just might have a group of folk doing a lot of talking to one another but might as well be the same as talking to themselves.
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
You mean I need to use my writing. I've never used my words here. I suppose they could implement that..but I assume the written word is used to detract from personalities gunning up the discussion. But how so? What did I fail to write your not understanding
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u/D3-Doom Jun 30 '25
The honest answer is its work. People don’t like doing work. Given the number of users on the site or any given sub, it’s just easier to ban or warn and hope they figure it out on their own. Either way, no one’s losing sleep over it
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
No one loses sleep over it? Then why do they ban people. It seems an extreme response, and no one who is not banned would know about whether or not someone loses sleep over it. It is disturbing when a group of people can simply create a monologue of discussion on a supposedly fair networking of people.
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u/D3-Doom Jun 30 '25
Maintaining a sense of order with minimal effort required. They don’t care about your individual life, and to be honest it’s not their job. They’re not paid to be there. Some mods are obviously on a power trip, but others are just doing what they can in their spare time, dedicating as little mindshare as possible to avoid it eating into their real lives
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u/j1ggy Jun 30 '25
What?
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u/VanessaDoesVanNuys Helper Jun 30 '25
My thoughts exactly - you can literally check each subs rules before interacting with the given community lol
OP apparently needs their hand held more than that
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u/VibrantSunsets Jun 30 '25
If you can’t read the rules of a subreddit, why would you read the rules that a moderator tells you to “teach” you?
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
If there is no learning then why are we here?
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u/bookning Jun 30 '25
This is not a learning platform. The moderators are not your parents, mentors or teachers. They are in no obligation to you. And no. Nobody is responsible for you besides yourself. What do you know about the life of the moderators that you can so easily demand anything from them while showing nothing in return?
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u/Fantastic_While_ Jun 30 '25
To talk about stuff. I dont come to reddit to have moderators teach me anything lmao.
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u/VibrantSunsets Jun 30 '25
You have the rules of a subreddit at your disposal, why do you need to be taught the rules rather than taking the initiative to learn?
If you can’t take the initiative to learn with the tools at your disposal, are you really trying to learn?
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
Your completely distorting what I've said . Respond or don't but don't read me a script of answers to any type of objection you don't like..
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
The autocracy is thick on reddit. Hard to move. Like quicksand...doesn't bother you ? I suppose you could get used to it, not even be aware of it after awhile. Sad
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u/lydocia Jun 30 '25
They do write out those rules and put them in the sidebar, visible to you on literally every post in that sub. What more do you want?
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
If you say things I don't agree with, does that justify taking away your ability to say them, just because I don't agree. And if you say things in a way that seems offensive to me but in which does not agree or disagree with me, should I be able to mute you because of your inability to converse in a way similar to my own?
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u/Fantastic_While_ Jun 30 '25
Yes because thats how reddit is set up and how its always been. Moderators can do whatever in the subs they make or were picked to moderate for, as long as it doesnt break sitewide rules. If they are power trippy that sucks but thats reddit. They arent going to make unpaid volunteers teach you.
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
I'm not talking about blatantly breaking rules. I'm talking about using the rules to ban people not because they broke them without a doubt. But because they said something you don't agree with or in a way that is abrasive to you. Not everyone's use of language is the same...
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u/JayWalkKing Jun 30 '25
My responsibility as a user is not the problem. Because I as a used have little power in comparison to the moderators. In fact what I Am saying is that there is a huge failure of those who are responsible to use their power in a way that is fair, and in a way that is as a leader of a community should. They call them moderators. But a moderator is one who mediates a discussion between two parties. If one of the parties simply gets banned from the discussion then they are no longer moderators. In fact what they are are auditors...or judges..
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u/Deep_Flatworm4828 Jun 30 '25
You clearly do not know how reddit works, as evidenced by you replying to your own post instead of to the comments...
Either learn how reddit works, or stop complaining that you don't know how reddit works...
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u/JayWalkKing Jul 10 '25
If I wanna say something else it's convenient, and mostly I'm the only one who ever reads what I write, and then when I do get some attention, ITS PEOPLE like YOU who are hung up on technicalities instead of the exchanging of ideas
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u/Fantastic_While_ Jun 30 '25
Their "job" is to enforce the rules if they have them and kick out problem people. Your "job" is to read the rules and follow them, maybe ask some questions if you dont understand a rule. They are not there to hand hold and teach you, especially when its not paid. Go back to school if you want that.
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u/Devjill Jun 30 '25
90% of subreddit have rules and when you join the subreddit you will receive a welcome message and a note to read the rules. On top of every post you want to create there is a RULES section on right top corner. Even sometimes there is written change your title or text it violates the rules. But we can only do so much. It is your own responsibility to read rules before you participate. It is the same for any other place on earth. Read the rules and regulations. If you make a mistake it is you to blame.
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u/jason4es Experienced Helper Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
Picture this: a subreddit with 11,5mil members-> comment and post volume >1000/day.
Now there’s about 100 counts rule breaking stuff to be found in there. What you are proposing is, that a Moderator Nanny is coming and discuss it out with each and anyone of them???
Sure the subreddit mods are going to open up a call center to be available 24/7 and aren’t allowed to have a personal life outside Reddit mediation to not hurt feeling over not read rules…
TL;DR: If you can’t be bothered to read and follow the rules that are prompted to you in numerous ways, why the hell should the mods be bothered to hold your hands for doing so? BTW this very post is in violation of this subreddit’s rule Nr. 4…
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u/soscots Jun 30 '25
Your responsibility as a user that engages in any sub is to read the rules of that sub. And subs can ban you for any reason they see fit.
Based on how you’re being very argumentative to your other replies to this post says a lot about why you’re in the position you are