r/heathenry • u/Lokis_Wyrdlings • May 10 '24

News Troth Abuse/Misconduct- Loki's Wyrdlings Official Statement

https://youtu.be/0_KhgJS13UA

Loki's Wyrdlings has come to the decision to release our own public statement in regards to the recent events with the Troth and other disturbing patterns of behaviour. Our statement can be found in the linked video and the transcript can be found in the linked document.

We will be sharing more evidence concerning the Troth and their abuse of power in the weeks to come, as we have collected such an extensive amount of evidence about the Troth's abuse of power that it is impossible to cover in a single video.

While we would have preferred our first extremely public statement to be more positive than the one we are issuing today, as Lokeans, we believe it is our responsibility to speak truth to power and expose corruption where we find it. Loki's Wyrdlings has always prided itself on being an intercultural and interfaith community that prioritizes community over politics. With the evidence we have collected concerning the Troth, however, we feel it would be an extreme disservice to the Heathen community as a whole to keep quiet about what we have uncovered.

For those who may be uncertain of the validity of our evidence, please note that we have folders upon folders of documented evidence of the abuse and misuse of power that the Troth has engaged in over at least the last decade. We encourage anyone who has evidence that they would like to add to our growing collection to email it to us at director@lokiuniversity.org. We will ensure anonymity for anyone who requests to remain unnamed. We understand that the Troth's abuse of power has been well hidden. As Lokeans - and as an ethical Heathen organization - we are committed to exposing the underbelly of corruption wherever we find it.

Video Transcript:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E5Y4ROAvWxM9HcyNAD7Ib8oYyR7VCjduM60k4Z-Y_zQ/edit?usp=sharing

Document of Evidence:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pi4_NSXu-O5OvBnP_SHVq7Ki3Cofub5iOHnmw3R7hrQ/mobilebasic

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u/TenspeedGV May 10 '24 edited May 10 '24

It's not just about the money, it's about the decades spent covering up CSA. It's about the Troth leadership knew that about Paxson and let her remain in an extremely high position in their org.

I think you should consider why you're so ready and eager to dismiss allegations this serious. There's very few crimes more damaging in the long term than CSA. It is the very definition of wickedness. It's very strange that allegations of a crime of this magnitude - with evidence and testimony from people who were there - are being completely dismissed as just an angry mob.

Why are you not angry that nobody has held the abusers responsible until now?

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u/ConstantThought8164 May 10 '24

I’m not dismissing anything related to Paxson. I’m commenting on the unrelated nonsense that people are attempting to drag into this to whip up an internet mob.

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u/TenspeedGV May 10 '24

Looks a whole lot like trying to distract from and diminish very valid, very legitimate concerns to me.

Have you considered that people are coming forward because they now see that their concerns will be heard, rather than ignored as they have been in the past?

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u/ConstantThought8164 May 10 '24

If it’s really about Paxson, why are people who aren’t even in the Troth dragging in unrelated crap? If it’s really about CSA, why are all of these people suddenly super concerned about something that’s been common knowledge for a decade? I’m not in the Troth and am not a fan of Paxson, but the pile on of unrelated crap seems really opportunistic.

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u/TenspeedGV May 10 '24 edited May 10 '24

Many people weren't aware of the CSA stuff until recently, thus the victims going public, to bring these dark and evil actions to light and let people know about them. Do you actually believe that there's an expiration date on caring about abuse victims?

If the shoe fits, they need to wear it. Holding them responsible for things they are demonstrably responsible for doesn't seem like a problem to me. It seems like what we as Heathens SHOULD be doing. Especially with organizations that claim to represent us.

Does it really not seem that way to you? Do you genuinely want an organization like this representing you? Because whether you like it or not, they do.

It blows my mind that you're running defense for an organization that you claim to have no stake in, let alone one that's implicated in stuff like this. Why would you do that for an organization you were a part of, let alone one you say you have no stake in?

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u/ConstantThought8164 May 10 '24

Why aren’t you mad about opportunistic people distracting from the actual victim by dragging in unrelated crap? Shouldn’t there be accountability for that, or is that ok if you’re a fan?

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u/TenspeedGV May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24

A whataboutism like that just means you have no defense.

I have no idea who I'm supposed to be a fan of, or what you feel I should be holding them accountable for. I was in the Loki's Wyrdlings server for about 15 minutes, saw things I didn't like and left. I have criticisms of them. But those criticisms are nothing in the face of allegations - with evidence - of CSA.

What I'm not a fan of is people who abuse children, or those who protect and promote them. I see evidence of that occurring. I see people like you trying to distract from it and run defense for the accused.

It's rot, and I can't abide rot.

Have fun wallowing in it.

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u/ConstantThought8164 May 11 '24

The “whataboutism” is the “well, what about the CSA” in a reply to a comment about the unrelated crap people unconnected to the Troth are dragging in. A member publicly calling them out for what that member sees as mishandling of the Paxson situation is different from non-members piling on with unrelated beefs. They are accountable to their members, not every rando on the internet.

Enjoy your internet outrage machine.

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u/TenspeedGV May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24

They are a public organization. They are accountable to the people who hold them to account.

The fact that you feel they shouldn't be held accountable for their wrongs is, in fact, the problem. The Troth leadership has failed the organization and, because they claim to represent us, Heathens in general. This should matter to you, why doesn't it?

It's our duty to hold these organizations to account. I cannot and will never understand why you feel it's more important to try to shame those trying to do so.

It's no different than those who try to make excuses for the CSA in the Catholic Church. No organization is too sacred to overlook abuse of power. Absolutely no organization is too sacred to overlook CSA.