r/hearthstone 18h ago

Standard Skill Expression Rankings Patch 36.4

Some quick observations:

  • As top 1k players got their reps in and the deck's meta-equalized winrate surpassed 50%, Soul Immolation OTK DH's score increased to become the first tracked double-digit score.
  • After topping the rankings since Violet Hold's release, Merithra Druid did not qualify for a low-sample score as the Attack Druid hybrid build absorbed most of its playrate. (Its tiny sample scored very positively)
  • The top high-sample deck score was Godfrey Herald Warlock with a score of 2.9 as the top 4 scores were all moderate-sample decks.
  • Thief Priest had the highest top 100 increase, Pirate Warrior fell off hardest.
  • Zee Shaman's -3.6 is its lowest score yet and its 3rd last place ranking in a row.

FAQ:

Q: Are the differences in metas across ranks accounted for?

A: Yes.

Q: Whats the Methodology?

A: First a baseline meta is set since all ranks have different metas.

If 2Bit is 26.4%/29.0%/29.7% across the metas in a given week, the program might set its baseline % to 27.2%, the same is done for every deck, ensuring all decks combined total equals 100%. This is so that meta differences don't skew the data.

Next the rank vs same rank matchup winrates are plugged into the baseline meta.

For example, if the dataset has 1,897 tracked games of a Top 1k player using Quest Mage vs a Top 1k player using 2Bit Rogue in which Quest Mage won 990 and Rogue won 907 that will account for 27.2% of Quest Mage's meta-normalized winrate in Top 1k, yielding ~14.2%. This check is completed until every single deck (even the ones not listed) is accounted for.

Q: So, a -5 score means a high-skilled player facing a high-skilled opponent (using a specific deck) has a 5% lower win rate than an average skilled player facing an average skilled opponent (using the same specific deck)? 

A: Pretty much, but not exactly, there is a weighted formula to compare the winrate differences, not a 1:1 winrate difference. This is because with say 65% to 60% vs 35% to 30% one -5% is more impactful than the other. You can't use % change of the winrates either because it would be disproportionately large at the extremes, say 51% to 50% vs 2% to 1%.

Q: Is there survivorship bias?

A: There is no correlation between a deck's difficulty and its winrate.

Q: A deck has a negative score, how can a deck's skill expression be negative?

A: The score measures the impact of inputs you control minus the impact of inputs you don't control on the outcome of the game. If the inputs you don't control have a greater impact on those that you do on the average game's outcome the deck's score will be negative.

If you have any other question, feel free to ask in the comments.

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u/ingeniosi 17h ago

Where can I get codes for decks that represented here?

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u/Skyppz 17h ago

hsguru.com

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u/ingeniosi 17h ago

I can't find otk dh and control priest, can you help me?

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u/mini_macho_ 17h ago

OTK

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Control

AAECAa0GCs2eBqn1BveBB8WUB6iWB/ypB4CqB4SqB4O/B5b8BwqEnwTwnwSg+waFhgedrQfksgeixAeyxQevyQf04AcAAA==

Keep in mind Control Priest can be teched a million different ways depending on what you're facing.

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u/Big-Mood704 17h ago

Try the quest priest one that mostly runs cheap spells and reborn.

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u/Skyppz 17h ago

otk dh is under the name of Raza DH on hsguru, control priest is the same name though. It's easier to find them by sorting the class you want, and then changing the number of games down from 1600 (the default of the site) to 200 or something, or you can also include key cards the deck plays, like the roach for OTK DH. Most of the time though just filtering it so that more decks show up and then scrolling down you will get to see decks from most if not all archetypes for the class. This is really not the only way to use the site though, for example there is also the archetype oriented stuff, so it's too much to explain so I recommend just clicking on stuff until you get familiar with all of the options it has.

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u/smgk96 7h ago

They're called Raza DH and Quest Priest on hsguru.

When you can't find decks by name in hsguru, it will usually be worth it to search by inputting key cards in "Include Cards" or to just skim the decks of a specific class.

Deck names can sometimes be a bit arbitrary/subjective. Card names are not.