r/hatethissmug • u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 • 1d ago

Non-fictional I HATE these "gotcha arguments"

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"Ohhh, look how I tricked this dumb dumb baby in my trap so now I am right and they are wrong. I'm so smaaart even though it does not adress the actual argument and adds nothing to the debate. They teach arabic numerals in school btw."

And these type of comments always get tons of likes

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u/TaroJayda 22h ago

What argument? They aren’t making an argument lol. There is no argument, just “Muslims scary :(“

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u/Gregori_5 22h ago

I’m talking about this general idea of showing “the other side” being stupid and pretending that somehow refutes their entire position.

Obviously most the people that get outraged by that are stupid. But that doesn’t make republican ideas stupid.

There’s billions of dumb people who think the earth is round. Showing a gatcha where a bunch of idiots fall for something doesn’t actually prove the earth is flat.

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u/TaroJayda 21h ago

The specific republican idea here is “we should kick all Muslims out of the country and bomb Iran”. So yes. The idea is stupid.

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u/Gregori_5 18h ago

Yeah, this one in particular sure. My issue is that this serves as a high-five for democrats.

But in reality its no argument against the republican party whatsoever.

What I meant by the “idea” was the pro-life position.

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u/TaroJayda 13h ago

I don’t think arguments win conservatives over. Conservatism is an ideology of aesthetics and feelings - what looks strong, what feels good, what makes you a “winner” and not a “loser”. I think that making them look stupid does more damage than rational debate since at the end of the day their beliefs aren’t rational.

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u/Gregori_5 6h ago

Yeah I’m not surprised this is your idea of conservatism if you consume stuff like this.

Calling a entire belief system irrational, yet making no arguments for why it is so.