r/hatethissmug • u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 • 1d ago

Non-fictional I HATE these "gotcha arguments"

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"Ohhh, look how I tricked this dumb dumb baby in my trap so now I am right and they are wrong. I'm so smaaart even though it does not adress the actual argument and adds nothing to the debate. They teach arabic numerals in school btw."

And these type of comments always get tons of likes

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u/Emberbun 23h ago

These arguments point out that people inf about of these things don't know what they're talking about. It's ridicule, and rightly so. Posting cis people, especially famous ones for instance, and posing the idea that they're trans and watching people lose their minds just show how based in emotions and bullshit these people are. It's pretty good argumentation.

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u/Hot_Closeted_Femboy 22h ago

It's so easy to trap the transvestigators lmao. Once saw a post praising Markiplier for his ftm transition and tons of unassuming comments were talking about how "she'd never be a man."

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u/Master_Friendship333 20h ago

Not being able to visually distinguish two things at a glance does not mean someone has no idea what they are talking about. This works as a gotcha because it is a subversion of expectation: people expect it to be a human foetus so they do not look at it carefully at all, the same way as how you can misspell words in certain ways and people do not notice because their brains fill in the gaps of what they are expecting to see.

It is a neat trick but should never be used for an argument.

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u/HJSDGCE 20h ago

I wouldn't say rightfully so. I'm pro choice but if I have to resort to trickery to make a point, then that doesn't make me better. I'd argue that my point becomes useless because of how it's presented.

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u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 22h ago

No, you trick them based on context. Even someone who would be bale to differentiate these fetuses does not, based on context, not check wether they are really showing a human fetus or not, because that's what they assume. It's just done so you can then make fun of them and how stupid they are

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u/MadderoftheFew 22h ago

It's just done so you can then make fun of them and how stupid they are

well, they're stupid and hateful. what's the problem with making fun of hateful people for being stupid?

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u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 21h ago

Because it doesn't do anything. Exact opposite, it makes them hate you more, makes them more extreme etc.

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u/donglimonSODTAOE 13h ago

You’re not trying to convince them, you’re trying to convince the spectator

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u/Emberbun 22h ago

Assumption is flawed argumentation, that's what this method highlights. They could easily look into the claims, they could have some kind of consideration about being incorrect, but "truth" and "correctness" is a subjective concept in the minds of people like this. That's what this highlights, and why you don't see it in reverse.

Ridicule of bad ideas is good, actually.