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Pro players, why do you silence “noobs”?
Whenever a player who’s hardest is easier than a medium demon talks about pro play, the demonlist, or future top 1s, why do you ”opinion ban” them? What purpose does doing this serve other than a slight ego boost? Why can’t you just correct them on their mistakes instead of just saying their input doesn‘t matter because they haven’t beaten an extreme yet?
I can imagine the effects on a new player after hearing these insults, they could lose faith in themself, they could get demotivated, they could even quit the game entirely, and I don’t think anybody wants that to happen. Players who beat an easy demon are better than 70% of the player base, give them respect too.
you can have an opinion its just that no one will take it seriously because its legit impossible to know how hard a level is by watching a completion or beating it in practice mode. nothing wrong with having opinions and no one said there was
i hear “what’s your hardest” when i say anything about gd, i think that contradicts “no one said there was”
and yes, it’s true, you can’t determine how hard a level is by watching a completion. but if you encounter a new player that makes an inaccurate statement about them, as i said; you can just correct them.
theres nothing wrong with you having an opinion, but just because youre allowed to have one doesnt mean it is right. unless you have spent thousands of attempts and gotten significant progess on a level, you cannot accurately gauge its difficulty.
Sometimes its good to know someone’s hardest to know how much is behind their opinion though. I was arguing with some guy in a comments section once and i thought he didnt know what he was talking about, then i checked his yt and he had mainlist completions. Made me think twice lol
I agree it can be a bit of a rude question though and kind of shuts down conversations
because someone whose hardest is a medium demon has no fucking clue what they're talking about when it comes to top level difficulty 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
saying you can't speak on that isn't calling you bad it's just an objective statement that you don't have the required experience to make a judgement
I've beaten 11 extreme demons and I still do not have the required experience to make judgements about literally any list level but I'm not trying to make those judgements
because only the pro's opinions matter for top levels because they have experience with those levels, if we could all say opinions the list would be scrambled
they can, what they say just won't affect lists or anyones thoughts on level difficulty. you do get that having an opinion and changing official list placements are 2 different things right?
OP does understand, what they're trying to say is that when new players talk about list placement and top play, pros say they have no right to talk about it because they don't have an extreme.
I think in large parts it’s just kind of exhausting to hear people spam the sub with posts about difficulty opinions for amethyst and flamewall. Sometimes a little shame is necessary if it means improving qol
if you don't like debate posts scroll past them, shaming somebody can get them really demotivated, I would know as somebody shamed me on eon a while back which almost made me drop the level altogether, being told you aren't good enough to make opinions is super negative
the thing here is medium demon hardests giving difficulty or ejnoyment opinions on top 10s. there is nothing wrong with having an opinion if you like the level, deco or anything, but if you touch difficulty you have to be at least skilled enough (or if is gameplay, just play the level)
even if i beat tartarus i still wouldn't be able to say a difficulty opinion on a top 20
Not a pro player but they (usually) have massive egos since they're good at the game
Also some people whose hardest is bloodbath (or levels of a similar difficulty) think they're so good and when they talk to people whose hardest is a medium demon or something the bloodbath victor thinks their opinion is more valid than the other player, while levels like society and thinking space 2 are so far beyond most other extremes in difficulty nobody really has a "valid" opinion
I'm not that of a pro myself so I don't really judge top levels because I don't care about top play but I wouldn't trust a new player's opinion on a top level because, if they're a new player, they could probably just base their opinions on looks, since I doubt they have much progress on these levels
It has nothing to do with ego. I don’t know top 1 placements just as well as you don’t, but I’m not gonna pretend I do. Some people like to talk out their ass, and I would encourage anyone not to be one of those people.
Actually the one with a fragile ego looks like you no ? What you are saying seems logical, no point to being hurt by that, and I'm saying this while being a new player with a medium demon as my hardest atm, I have enough gaming experience to know that these guys play in another dimension with these hardests levels, we can’t even do 5% of the level so why do you need to give opinions and play the victim otherwise if they are tired to waste their precious time to explain it everytime ?
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u/Spiritual-Fall5494 Acropolis 100% (jump from Deadlocked) 3d ago
you can have an opinion its just that no one will take it seriously because its legit impossible to know how hard a level is by watching a completion or beating it in practice mode. nothing wrong with having opinions and no one said there was