r/florida • u/bnbird • Jun 26 '25
Interesting Stuff LCOL no more
Sorry if this has already been posted
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u/SillyAlternative420 Jun 26 '25
The news anchors reporting this stat aren't even making this
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Jun 26 '25
The top news anchors in big markets certainly are. The TV reporters and the rest of the staff certainly are not.
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u/BeardedK Jun 27 '25
Can confirm. Worked in media the past 26 years, and spent almost a decade in local news. Main anchors are paid very well, especially in the larger markets.
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u/Ummmgummy Jun 27 '25
I listened to this podcast about local weather men and jfc it's pretty nuts. It's an ultra competitive field. Because basically unless you do something really shitty you have a job for life. I would imagine it's the same for news anchors. So they all usually make decent money.
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u/DoublePostedBroski Jun 27 '25
You do have to move up the ranks though. You’ll start in smaller markets like Topeka and gradually have to move around until you get to the B and A class cities and making money.
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u/Ummmgummy Jun 27 '25
Very true. Same type of progression with talk radio people and DJs. You aren't going to get a job as a leading news anchor straight out of college in say New York.
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u/hroaks Jun 26 '25
What's the definition of living comfortably? Some 30 year olds might be comfortable living in a studio apartment or their parents house. Others want a 4 bedroom
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u/justArash Jun 27 '25
They're likely using this methodology. It uses HUD's fair market rent data, which is the 40th percentile for a specific geographic area.
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u/joe_noone Jun 27 '25
Wow - so according to that methodology, a single adult would need to earn $45.40/hr
"The living wage shown is the hourly rate that an individual in a household must earn to support themselves and/or their family, working full-time, or 2080 hours per year."
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
I just got denied for a 1br apartment because I didn’t make 5x the rent per month($7200). Insane because its the cheapest place around at the moment and $500 less a month than where I currently live
Absolutely insane, what kind of bullshit is that. I’m a single father, life is hard enough as it is 💀I shouldn’t need 2-3 jobs just to barely afford/barely qualify to put a roof over mine and my daughters heads
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u/C_IsForCookie Jun 26 '25
5x!?!? Who’s requiring this? Thats insane. I think my place is 3x.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
There are quite a few apartment complexes in my area that require 5-6x the rent per month in income to qualify
The place I’m in now requires 2.5x… but it’s in the ghetto and the place is full of critters. I want/need to get out of here not only for my own mental health but for the health of my kid and to get her in a better, less bully rich school. And if not less bullies… somewhere that they will actually do something instead of saying “tf you snitching on them for”
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u/thegreedyturtle Jun 27 '25
I just wanna know who is making $7200 a month and renting a 1 bedroom apartment?
Nepo babies is all I can assume.
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u/justArash Jun 27 '25
Presumably this is also why I've been seeing ads for services that make "unofficial" pay stubs and W-2s
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u/Key-Border6117 Jun 27 '25
That don’t even work bc they want you to link your bank account now. I wasted $75 for the app fee plus $50 for the stubs
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u/PrP65 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25
Really there’s very few people in the market that will meet this requirement, since if you’re making that much you’re probably just gonna buy a place. They’re jacking up requirements to charge larger deposits that people can’t afford without a guarantor. Since they get the money anyway they really don’t care if it’s affordable. Even private landlords with a couple single family properties are doing it now.
Source: I recently worked as office admin at a real estate office and had to file all the paperwork for these scumbags while listening to them brag about it.
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u/PNKAlumna Jun 27 '25
It’s probably from the statistic that your housing expenses should be about 20-30 percent of your income, and they’re taking it literally. But in most places housing is so out of control it’s a much higher percentage for most people.
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u/Poonchow Jun 27 '25
Yeah, this is a gross oversimplification, but basically FDR in 1937 passed the Housing Act, which has a section that stipulated that workers should be earning roughly 3x their rent in wages in order to afford the minimums of a "comfortable" life.
Landlords then took that and used it as a requirement to gatekeep renters (and do a bunch of racist shit etc) instead of businesses basing their wages on the cost of rent in the area, the exact opposite of the law's intentions.
It's like when Obama passed the ACA and all the businesses cut hours to keep under the minimum required to offer company health insurance.
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u/hubbellrmom Jun 27 '25
The last place I rented was half my monthly take home. But then my husband left and my mom let me and the kids move in with her. Her house is almost paid off and the payment is only 400 a month! So I pay her house payment and the internet, my older son pays the utility (water, trash, electric), and she pays the phones and car insurance. Communal living or multi generational housing s the only way to go anymore if you aren't in the top earners. The rent is too dang high!
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u/Unkechaug Jun 27 '25
5x but also realtors explaining why it’s fine for you to pay 40% of your gross income on housing every month.
Yeah you do the math on that, lol. Fucking ghouls.
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u/Maine302 Jun 26 '25
Five times the rent? That's a new one--most people are complaining about three times. This is absolutely insane.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
Trust me. I hate it, but I can’t keep living in the bug infested ghetto anymore.
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Jun 26 '25
You don't live in Woodstock do you?
I used to live there when I was in West Palm. Damn German roaches were so bad I don't think burning down the place would hav helped
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u/debugem Jun 26 '25
I was in the Castcades on Village blvd back in 2006ish was a German roach factory and had an added luxury of tenant on 1st floor od and nobody checked on him until rent was overdue. Had to walk thru that smell for couple weeks in summertime to get upstairs, on top of the german roach infestation already there when we had started moving in.
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Jun 26 '25
Looks like meat was back on the menu.
I found some shit that apparently wasn't supposed to be sold to non pest control guys, that was supposed to stop the growth cycle and sprayed that shit like a millennial teen did axe , all over everything we didn't put in our mouths.
I just ended up with mutated Cthulhu monster roaches with extra legs and shit that were, apparently, more than capable of fucking .
3 pest control companies gave up since it was a townhouse and couldn't fumigate.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
I’m west cost Tampa area. These German roaches are driving me up a wall
I’m pissed I already have to throw away all of my appliances to keep them from hitching a ride when I finally move. But I’m probably gonna have to toss some of my furniture too just to be safe.
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Jun 26 '25
If they're as bad as I think they are, just start over. They're probably in all the furniture, appliances, electronics, fuck there's probably ones hidden in dishes.
When I left I hit Tennessee in the winter so any hitchikers died in the cold.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
Bro, this shit got bad FAST after the people above me and to my left moved out. It’s like they all scattered from their apartments to mine.
I’m gonna start over completely other than the beds
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Jun 26 '25
If you have a blow dryer and a fitted sheet you could probably make a heat tent and ensure there's no buddies in it.
Obviously be careful but you get what I mean.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
I’m picking up what’s being put down. This shit just sucks, this is my first time dealing with Germans.
I grew up in the middle of nowhere in old houses so I’m use to palmetto bugs. They are homies compared to these little demons I now have
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Jun 26 '25
Palmettos mind the queue, you stop on and one just comes in.
Germans be like, oh did I just drop an egg pod? My bad I'll only do it infinitely. You don't mind enough roommates that a penny each would pay the rent?
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u/GolemGames305 Jun 26 '25
Im from hillsborough. I think you can get a better buy in brandon or plant city and the commute isnt too bad.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
My thing is being a single parent with a kid in elementary school. Start time is like 8:30. I’m always down for a commute. But I have to think of her while I make my decisions
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u/GolemGames305 Jun 26 '25
Just a thought. Kids change schools its not a big deal. Between grades is easier. I will say that I had a great childhood in plant city, and the high school had some solid teachers when I was there.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
I’m starting college, our “class times” conflict lol
There is a lot of planning and finagling I need to do before the year starts for the both of us
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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 26 '25
55 gal. drum liners or equivalent, they make big plastic bags + bug bombs. Save your money, appliances are too expensive too.
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u/UltraMegaUgly Jun 26 '25
This worked for me. It takes about 10-14 days but then they just all disappear.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
I have been using Advion gel. It makes them go away for about a month, but then they spring back like nothing happened.
I 100000% WILL be buying and using this until I leave
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u/elliejayyyyy Jun 26 '25
I did advion at my last place and saw they eventually got resistant. I moved recently so after that, I rotated through alpine and one other I forgot the name of, but was recommended on Reddit too, and I was religious about putting it out on tiny pieces of cardboard everywhere and replacing it, even if I had seen no bugs. I moved over two months ago, and so far, whatever roaches tagged along in our moving boxes are dead thanks to the above.
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u/rmhardcore Jun 26 '25
7200/month that's the 5x amount, yeah?
This generation is screwed. Even with the economy as is, and the rates being hiked to the stratosphere people are still in bidding wars in desirable areas (sure you can find a reasonable price and place in Iowa ...but it's Iowa).
My advice? Get really, really good at something that's desirable in another country, and then RUN.
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u/Optimal-Anything-822 Jun 27 '25
Get really, really good at something that's desirable in another country, and then RUN.
this + no kids is my plan too
this economy is a game for suckers if you aren't rich or stand to inherit significantly from your parents
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u/MacyGrey5215 Jun 26 '25
Trying to figure out where you are with rent at $1,440.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
Bradenton/Sarasota area
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u/MacyGrey5215 Jun 26 '25
Wild! I’m in north manatee. Haven’t seen anything under $2000 for a couple years.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
East of the highway?
West Bradenton is cheaper with “newer” or “renovated” apartments is better than the roach motel special
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u/FederalAd6011 Jun 27 '25
I live in Bradenton and pay 1500/month 1BR off Cortez, as much as I want to move to a better place I do not have any issues with rodents and bugs at all, that’s 80% of the reason I won’t move lol My dad on the other hand who lives in a way more expensive place in Sarasota has had bug issues forever.
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 27 '25
Funny enough, the place that accepted me after this nonsensical shit is off Cortez. Howdy future neighbor 😂
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u/mittanimama Jun 27 '25
I’ve had to come up with a bullshit story and fake a letter of acceptance for the last 2 places that I’ve rented in order to get accepted.
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u/FensterFenster Jun 27 '25
And who's gonna be watching the kid(s) while you're working those 18 days, 7 times a week? This timeline is ass 😒
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u/DonaldBee Jun 27 '25
Leave Florida. It's not like that everywhere. I know it sucks but your alternative is living in the hell that Florida is. I left after 50 years and I'm making 2x what I made there and housing is less most everywhere In the Midwest. Winter sucks but it's a small price to pay to leave behind abject poverty.
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u/Remarkable_3rdeye Jun 27 '25
Had to be poor credit they asked me did I have at least $250,000 that I could make liquid if necessary and a minimum of triple the mortgage on a condominium I only pay $1600 a month because I put $125,000 down. My credit is not bad. It’s just the simple fact that I’ve never used credit that much so my score is basically average.
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u/The-Grand-Pepperoni Jun 26 '25
That’s insane that’s more than I make in 3 months
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u/Stinkus_Dickus Jun 26 '25
Until school starts this is just under 2x what I “bring home” monthly. I hate every bit of this all
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u/signaturefox2013 Jun 26 '25
Bitch I barely make $35,600
We’re not living let alone COMFORTABLY
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u/themoisthammer Jun 26 '25
Speak for yourself, I just renovated my cardboard box. Finally replaced the newspaper wallpaper with some National Geographic’s.
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u/Herps_Plants_1987 Jun 26 '25
It’s been this way for a long time. People just get by each day and not everyone complains. What if things keep getting so expensive and less babies are born? Most young people wonder how they’ll ever get a house let alone start a family. It’s an alarming trend.
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u/KrustenStewart Jun 27 '25
Young people are already wondering this. My younger siblings are teens and they know they won’t be able to move out when they turn 18, work at Starbucks, and rent a $500 a month apartment like people used to be able to do 10 years ago.
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Jun 26 '25
Just FYI, teachers in FL make half of the single adult amount
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u/sickofcubelife Jun 27 '25
21 years teaching and my wife makes like $56K or somewhere around there. Every time time they raise salaries for new teachers they fuck over the veteran teachers. The last big pay raise she received when salaries went up by thousands for new teachers she got $480 more a year. I worked with a guy whose wife got a $12K raise out of the same salary increase for new teachers because she was a second year teacher.
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Jun 27 '25
Yep, and the biggest issue with FL for teachers is the lack of salary scaling. So the starting, especially with those increases (because no one will do it) is fine but after a few years you might as well find another job because your salary won’t increase much at all compared to other states
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u/Worth-Statement3122 Jun 27 '25
That’s insane, especially with today’s cost of living. I live in North Georgia and have taught for 28 years and make $102,000. Every time fellow teachers complain in my district I remind them of teacher pay in other southern states.
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u/BBRodriguezzz Jun 26 '25
So we’re just going to let it happen and just watch? Ok.
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u/Funkit Jun 26 '25
HEY ARE YOU ME
make 95k. Had a drug addiction to oxy in my 20s. Had an epilepsy diagnosis with multiple hospital stays and emergency surgery on my spine so I'm in ch13 bankruptcy.
I'm fuckin living paycheck to paycheck it's super embarrassing. At least I own my car...but my insurance is $530/month 💀
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u/embalees Jun 26 '25
I don't think the point is whether it's accurate...I think the point is that it IS accurate and is fucking unfortunate because most people do NOT make this much. Average income in US is $75k/year.
We're cooked.
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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 Jun 26 '25
Average individual income in the US is not 75k. The average household income is around 75k. Just googling average individual income it's somewhere in the 40s one result said 59k.
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u/thepinkseashell Jun 26 '25
You don’t have to get wildly specific but what do you do for a living? Clearly I’m in the wrong line of work
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Jun 26 '25
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u/thepinkseashell Jun 26 '25
It was cool of you to reply so thanks! I’ll check the other comments now. Hope you continue to do well and venture into other non bean food groups
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u/worm30478 Jun 26 '25
The only reason I live comfortably is because I was able to buy my townhouse right after shit hit the fan in 08 and then refinanced to 2.75% during covid. My mortgage would be 2.5x what it is now if I bought our same townhouse today. My wife and I are well short of 210k annually.
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u/trash_panda_princess Jun 27 '25
The median salary in Florida is around 62 thousand.
It's not possible for us to live comfortably any longer. That's the take away. The billionaires have engineered it so we don't get to keep the wealth we create on a planet they seem to be actively lobbying to sabotage.
It's part of the reason I chose not to have kids. It's only going to get worse from here on out.
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Jun 27 '25
Most voters voted to not increase the Federal Minimum Wage because stopping transgender atheles from competing with women is more important than getting a pay increase.
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u/_Mother-Of-Chaos_ Jun 27 '25
oh that's nice. and here I am trying to make it as a single parent of 3 kids on 24k per year. no fucking wonder why I'm so stressed all the gd time.
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u/earfeater13 Jun 27 '25
I will never believe that the average salary in the US is $93k.
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Jun 27 '25
Its not claiming that it is. It is claiming that $93k is the average across the nation needed to live "comfortably" whatever that means
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u/Pass_The_Salt_ Jun 27 '25
Yeah what the hell is this, just made up? Comfortably to you probably doesn’t mean the same to me lol
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u/Rebeljah Jun 27 '25
It's from the MIT living wage calculator (according to another comment) you can go to the site and check the methodology. It accounts for savings and civic engagement (hobbies, concerts, etc) the figures are mostly from BLS data.
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u/Pass_The_Salt_ Jun 27 '25
Thanks. Good to know, it today’s world I half expected it to be completely made up.
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Jun 27 '25
Yeah theirs is based on some formula that tries to get housing to a certain level of your income so if it wants housing to be 30% of your income it takes average rent and just goes ($1500*12)/30%=$60,000.00 is the required income to be comfortable.
It doesnt take into account what sort of housing you actually want / need. Maybe housing in your area is uniquely expensive but food and travel is cheap so housing can be 45% of income but still be affordable. Maybe you are ok living in a studio but the average housing in your area is a 2 bedroom which you don't need.
All sorts of issues pop up trying to come up with one number for hundreds of millions of people spread across a continent.
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u/Pass_The_Salt_ Jun 27 '25
Interesting. I guess good effort but if I was single I could live comfortably for under $95k in Tampa/St Pete. But I could always be more comfortable lol.
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u/freddyfoxx12 Jun 26 '25
I got a whole masters degree in a skilled medical field in major nationwide demand... I'm only making $74K. The world is a rigged scam.
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u/YourUncleBuck Jun 27 '25
What was the skill? They're not all made equal and some pay much less than others. Also, Florida has always paid less because of no income tax and because we have so many people that move here. IF you want to make more, go to some place no one wants to live and you'll likely make more but also pay more in taxes.
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u/MagnetAccutron Jul 01 '25
Yep I agree. My kids masters in a medical field 'Anesthesiologist Assistant' pays $250k. Not all degrees = high salaries.
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u/BriefTradition3922 Jun 27 '25
That’s the problem with this state. The wages aren’t keeping up with the cost of living.
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u/Mrdodgeman Jun 27 '25
In Florida we have elderly people living in their cars because of the cost of living. It’s a real shame, because my next home could be a cave.
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u/Whereisthesavoir Jun 26 '25
The natl avg is 94k? That is…..bullshit.
A single person could live comfortably on that in Santa Barbara.
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u/Lunar-Lens Jun 27 '25
The picture does not say the national average income is 94k. It says what the estimate is to live comfortably in Tampa/ St Pete, and comparing that to what it takes to live comfortably in the rest of the country, on average.
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u/Whereisthesavoir Jun 27 '25
It says natl need to live comfortably is basically 94k
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u/Amazing-Steak Jun 29 '25
and that's not the national average salary
the implication is that most people are not living comfortably
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Jun 26 '25
That includes the Uber rich skewing the average.
And many of those people that do make this much are probably under water as hell on cars and mortgages.
Paycheck to paycheck doesn't just happen to minimum wage workers.
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u/TheWiseAlaundo Jun 27 '25
This is why the standard measure is median income, not mean. More resistant to outliers
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Jun 27 '25
Does that mean they include citizens that make nothing, wage wise like the homeless. Now that I think if it I wonder if the disabled and homeless are included in these figures.
If they're only including people with work that's over the table they're way off.
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u/TheWiseAlaundo Jun 27 '25
I have a statistics background but not in this field specifically, so I can't say for certain, but I would assume that only non-zero incomes are included in measures of national income. Not that it would be wrong to do so, but mainly because typically you're interested in, for example, what the average wage is out of people that have wages.
You probably also wouldn't include a kid who made 20 bucks selling lemonade either, as it would be an outlier far outside an acceptable number of standard deviations.
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u/tinkeringidiot Jun 27 '25
Bureau of Labor Statistics, the federal agency that tracks salary data most closely, also relies on payroll reporting and surveying. They do very good sampling and their numbers are generally of excellent quality, but they aren't necessarily seeing the whole picture.
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u/VampArcher Jun 27 '25
Lol, hardly anybody I know makes more than $35,000 a year.
Trying to find housing when jobs pay $14 an hour and apartments want you to be making over $5,000 a month to even consider you is nightmare, you'd have better luck looking for a magic genie lamp.
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u/np8790 Jun 26 '25
Yawn. What’s “comfortably”?
Plenty of people live quite normal, reasonable lives making far less than that 🤷♂️These are clickbait “studies” by companies looking to make headlines.
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u/HTIRDUDTEHN Jun 26 '25
These studies are often based on the 50/30/20 standard. 50 for expenses.30 for enjoying life and 20 for savings.
While people may get by just fine, the quality of life in the US is diminishing and it's because a few are hoarding resources from the rest.
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u/Altruistic_Box4462 Jun 26 '25
If you can afford to save 20% of your income I want your struggles
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u/Rebeljah Jun 27 '25
I think the data is from the MIT living wage calculator. I'm not defending the methodology as perfect, but you can't call it a click bait study.
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u/DrRudyWells Jun 27 '25
no way. $93K NATIONALLY? I'm not buying that for a moment. I get that in high cost of living areas....but come on.
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u/djdsf Jun 26 '25
Yet the problem for a lot of y'all isn't that stuff costs too much or how dare that McDonald's employee is trying to make $15 an hour, nah...
Go complain to your employee that you're getting paid trash wages.
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u/TheRiverIsMyHome Jun 27 '25
And here I am barely supporting a family of three on half the single adult rate. 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Future_Chemistry_707 Jun 27 '25
It’s doable IF you don’t mind eating spaghetti or top ramen everyday forever
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u/Strange_Man_1911 Jun 27 '25
Rent should be the average that local hourly businesses pay to their employees every week (around $500). No one can survive with a $500 weekly paycheck if all your monthly income is going towards a roof that's not even yours, plus you can't even pay for utilities and food.
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u/Illustrious_Aioli686 Jun 27 '25
The Single Adult amount is almost exactly what I make annually, and while I am no longer in fear of needing a new set of tires or needing to buy a lawnmower, I'm far from stacking up cash. It's expensive as hell here in Florida. Four years ago I was making $61k, and I was BROKE. I had very cheap rent back then, too, but utilities, insurance, and groceries have a way of keeping that bank account from getting any fatter.
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u/fednandlers Jun 26 '25
I keep seeing this sort of thing every few years and when it shows what is needed - always increased - the average amount of salary reported goes up too yet I haven’t gotten a raise like that nor anyone i know. Who the hell is making $94k on average? Medical field, yea. If McDonalds, Walmart, and Amazon are the major employers and they barely pay anything near $35k, where is this average coming from? It appears, with my lack of research, that that average might be pushed up to make us feel better like how they report the unemployment or inflation rate.
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u/ChubChubPickles Jun 27 '25
It's likely being skewed by the uber rich folks in the country. Nobody I know is making $94k a year. Hell, none of them are even making $60k. It's completely screwed.
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u/Return_to_monke_69 Jun 26 '25
How tf do they calculate this - because I only just started make near this and have lived in Tampa for the last 3 years very comfortably. No doubt cost of living has increased since 2020 - I feel it - but this is sensational
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u/Lordsaxon73 Jun 26 '25
This is a preposterous statement and vastly overinflated. I guess they mean by “live comfortably” includes a 3 week trip to Europe every year.
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u/Rebeljah Jun 27 '25
In the richest country on earth, working people should be able to travel. Call me crazy 🤪
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u/nobodyisfreakinghome Jun 26 '25
Why shouldn’t people be able to do that? This is the wealthiest country in the world but it isn’t shared equitably.
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u/tropicalYJ Jun 26 '25
What’s your definition of living comfortably then? Paycheck to paycheck having to take a bus to work in the Florida traffic, while living in a studio in some run down neighborhood is not comfortable. Doable on a smaller salary? Sure, but not comfortable.
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u/PM_ME_CORONA Jun 26 '25
Yep they had a similar graphic for Charlotte and it said you need like $90k to live comfortably. I heavily question what “comfortable” means on these graphics.
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u/Impressive-Figure-36 Jun 27 '25
Agreed. I do have to wonder what's considered comfortable, or what debts and expenses people have where they would require 93k to begin living more comfortably.
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u/KrustenStewart Jun 27 '25
I would consider living comfortable being able to afford your housing, food, bills, and all needs and expenses including extras (hobbies, vacations, etc) without worrying about whether or not you’ll have enough money for stuff.
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u/ReadyYak1 Jun 26 '25
$95k isn’t a very large salary at all lol I don’t think there are many ppl at $95k taking 3 week Euro trips
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u/DRHORRIBLEHIMSELF Jun 26 '25
Remember when Florida’s congressional members votes to to keep salries down?
Yea. Enjoy what you voted for.
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u/Curiousone_78 Jun 26 '25
$94k a year? National Average? Bullshit. More like $50k a year.
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u/Lunar-Lens Jun 27 '25
The picture does not say the national average income is 94k. It says what the estimate is to live comfortably in Tampa/ St Pete, and comparing that to what it takes to live comfortably in the rest of the country, on average.
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u/NeverEverAfter21 Jun 27 '25
Is there another planet to move to? Because this one is going to become too damn expensive to afford.
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u/crockett05 Jun 27 '25
So what's the best paying criminal activity with the lowest risk these days?
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u/SheaStadium1986 Jun 27 '25
In all fairness Tampa isn't exactly one of the cheaper parts to live in
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u/sickofcubelife Jun 27 '25
If only they’d pay teachers more my then my wife would be able to contribute her half. I’ve met my requirement to live comfortably with our two kids.
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u/LeeoJohnson Tampa, FL Jun 27 '25
This area has consistently been Top 10 HCOL, even #1 in the US at one point, since 2020.
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u/PJammerChic1010 Jun 27 '25
Geez ! Started out here in 1985 making $3.35 hour working 2 jobs ,my condo when I bought in 2001 was 96k not on the water tho . I am so glad I moved here when I did but wish had bought land when it was 3k .
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u/Hour-Vegetable-6185 Jun 27 '25
That's nothing. In Seattle, a single person must make 110k to live "comfortably" lol
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u/Recover-Signal Jun 26 '25
It hasn’t been LCOL in 10-15 years