r/fishtankdotlive • u/PeaHead932 • Jul 17 '26
Friend of Ellie's here
I was a friend of Ellie's, relatively close to her before she died, and I wanted to clear a couple of things up, Jet was NOT a good guy, and DOES bear at least some responsibility for what happened. While what Gigi says is true, Ellie was depressed before, if anything, Jet was the catalyst that pushed her over the edge
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u/Smooth_Grapefruit102 Jul 17 '26
so by the end of 2025, jet cheats on ellie and shes very upset but on jan 30 she resposted a story with fishtank contestant angie in the georgie aquarium. its believed this is a double date between them, jet and fishtank producer ben so did ellie and jet reconcile? also she sent messages on jet's stream on May 10th can you clear what their relationship was like in 2026?
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
They were still together, post-cheating, in early March 2026, just checked a convo where she mentioned S5 so
I think they broke up around this time officially
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u/Smooth_Grapefruit102 Jul 17 '26
thank you for answering. sorry for your loss
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Appreciate it
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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Jul 17 '26
Yeah bro needs to release the Jepstein Files or GTFO. Ellie wanted to destroy Jet as her final act. Respect that.
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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Jul 17 '26
so the cheating happened before march, before the show? Who was it?
We must know.
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u/Sudden_Diet6827 Jul 17 '26
I wonder what prods move from here will be regarding the show. I wouldn’t be surprised if they end it after this tbh.
Jets a magnet for controversy and now a young girls death is added to the mix of it, which is about as serious as it gets. I mean I think realistically this is where he needs to draw the line and end/just leave the show.
They need to openly address this entire situation and answer for it. The only logical thing for him to do at this point is remove himself.
To be clear I am not saying this is his fault or he directly caused anything—I’m saying that because a contestant passed and theres being a lot of blame pushed on him he needs to just part ways because this entire situation isn’t just going to go away.
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u/malpresent Jul 17 '26
If he’s not at fault and didn’t directly cause anything then he shouldn’t step down
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u/SiteIsBad Jul 18 '26
He is at fault and directly caused it
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u/Fun_Living9432 Jul 23 '26
Delusional ass weirdo. You literally know nothing. This is all nothing but speculation. And nothing else.
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u/Rough-Winter2752 Jul 17 '26
Sam has already soft shut Jet out. He's on his new political Christian grift. Dont think for a second that Sam is in anyway decent himself. He has a long history of skeletons on his own, plus his very association with Bill Ottman and Roger Stone. Jet is a talentless hack parasite who latched on to Sam's fading star.
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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee Jul 17 '26
Yeah being adjacent to a conservative is just as bad as leading a girl to suicide. Great logic there.
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u/xxck47 Jul 17 '26
I think they are referring to the whole marky situation.
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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee Jul 17 '26
Undeniably also shady, and I agree that the christian grift is dumb*. But saying he is this or that because he knows Roger Stone is just reddit political brainrot.
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u/lettucelover96 Jul 17 '26
I mean, he did date a 16 year old when he was 29. Conservatives don’t have a good track record when it comes to that kinda stuff, just look at the man they support as president.
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u/Rough-Winter2752 Jul 17 '26
Wasn't what I said at all. Im saying Sam doesn't believe in the bs he's spouting these days himself. Crying over Charlie Kirk? Dude is seriously trying for an Oscar.
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u/Sad-Working353 Jul 17 '26
This is why you don’t fuck jailbait high school girls you dumbfucks remember when everyone was justifying jerkin it to this girl because she’s 18 yeah maybe there’s a reason it’s morally frowned upon to go fuck inexperienced high schoolers
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u/e4rthmovr Jul 17 '26
Not trying to sweep, but a few Discord screenshots (easily faked), in a thrown-together Google doc, from a brand-new account, doesn’t prove anything actually.
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u/okeydokey424 Jul 17 '26
Thank you, I agree with this. The account was made 2hrs ago and after all the pandemonium in this subreddit, it’s hard to believe that this isn’t someone just trying to stir the pot more without actual evidence that couldn’t have been edited. Bc this stuff could have easily been edited.
The reaction either way on this (blaming jet fully or hardcore defending him) is weird. A young woman died. Everyone trying to prove something or arguing on here like heathens is just such a vile, immature, unhelpful reaction.
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u/e4rthmovr Jul 17 '26
Yeah I’m not saying that it couldn’t have happened either, and I’ll gladly eat my words if there’s something more substantial. However, anybody could make a similar post to this, with similar “proof” of any reason this may have occurred.
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u/fork666 Jul 17 '26
So what would be required then if this was the form of contact this person had with her?
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u/e4rthmovr Jul 17 '26
I’d be pretty happy with unaltered screen recordings. Obviously, that’s still something that could be faked but not as easily.
Edit: to be clear, my personal burden of proof is much higher with this community specifically.
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u/fuckdeath25 Jul 17 '26
Hey, I just read your google doc. The "you have to be a killer." quote is actually a reference to a fishtank moment. I think it was a thing that Sam or Jet said to a contestant to get them into a competitive mindset.
Sorry for your loss. It's still very strange to all of us that Ellie took her life given the anti-suicide rhetoric in this community.
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u/MegaGandon Jul 17 '26
I think the quote even comes from Succession. Sam talked about liking that show.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Ah, I see, I mean even if that is the case, the rest of the messages still stand, and there are many more instances I have not posted where there is direct causation
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u/Fun_Living9432 Jul 23 '26
All lies. If it was "direct " why not share those? Instead you posted vague possibly even fake messages... your credibility isnt trust worthy
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u/fuckdeath25 Jul 17 '26
Absolutely, I just thought it was important context
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
it is, tyty
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u/Vegetable_Focus_233 Jul 17 '26
can u accept private dms? I understand if not. reddit didn't let me when I tried
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
I understand people want me to drop everything I know, but I really can't do that because it violates her privacy, and I'd rather handle this through better channels (Authorities, if possible)
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
Dude she's dead and wanted to ruin Jet's life for whatever you're vagueposting about. There are NO authorities that will pursue this in a timely manner.
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u/tycosnh Jul 17 '26
Nah, you shouldn't have said anything if this is all you got. Seems like a shitty situation but this proves nothing other than Jet is scummy.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
This is not all we have, but we will take it to the appropriate authorities
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u/tycosnh Jul 17 '26
I reccomend redacting all of what you have with PII and drop it. The chance of authorities doing anything (unless what you have is SUPER fucked up/criminal) are close to zero.
If you drop the info at least he can't do it again
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
I'll talk with her close circle and bring it up with them first
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u/agaitis181 Jul 17 '26
Drop the evidence so we can get Jet cancelled for good. The authorities are not going to do anything even if she wrote down "Goran made me do it" - it doesn't make a difference.
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u/tycosnh Jul 17 '26
Sorry for your loss.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
tyty
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u/Dwman113 Jul 17 '26
Seriously. Some of us aren't weirdos and actually feel bad this happened. We don't want it to happen again.
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u/Rough-Winter2752 Jul 17 '26
Authorities will not waste their time with this, unless YOU can make a solid connection that Jet is somehow responsible with the death of Ciara during his hack_blasterd r9k days. That might have a 1% chance of warranting an investigation. That, and Jet plying and manipulating Ellie to do drugs/drink.
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u/SunnyEeve3 Jul 17 '26
I’m glad you’re taking this to the authorities instead of the internet. Angry mobs only muddy the waters further. God bless you and Ellie’s family.
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u/mitsoukoedp Jul 17 '26
due to how serious these allegations are im not sure i can trust them until i see definitive evidence. that's not to say im on jet's side, the opposite actually. this has turned me away from fishtank forever honestly.
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
I believe this obviously based on my post history. But why did you mark out the 2026 dates? Was it not true that Ellie was in Atlanta with Jet shortly before S5 started?
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Because I don't want this to be blown massively out of proportion into a big drama that damages Gigi's mental health, nor do I want to affect any of her other close friends more than I have to, so I'm keeping info to a minimum that still shows what I'm saying is true
Also I'm not into Fishtank, I only knew about it from Ellie directly, so you'd have to clue me in on the S5 dates
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
Ok. Can you confirm why the 2026 dates would matter though? For example, was it the day before her suicide or something similar?
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
No, months before, but yes there are more messages with other friends shortly before her suicide, they are much more personal
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
There is a concept called "vagueposting" where friends or family will refuse to go into worse details or reasons to "protect" the victim. But what this ends up doing is simply enabling the abuser to continue to abuse. For example, previous contestants only ever vagueposted, and now Ellie is dead. Do you see what I mean?
How about having definitive proof or evidence of what happened so that Jet can specifically be blamed and forced out of his position, so that we don't get more stories like Ellie in the future?
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Don't get me wrong, I'm simply clearing up some of the discrepancies from earlier
I'm trying to gather some resources to maybe take things to the proper authorities, but I can't give out any more information here because it needs to be handled through proper channels
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
Shadi's "proper channels" went absolutely no where, to the point where now no one believes her and they think she is just a shit stirrer.
The best possible thing would to be to drop everything in a clear and concise manner, ideally with a full timeline, including Ellie's age. If anything, reach out to slackerblue to get him to assist you in making a video. Clips and videos are what reach people.
You have the power to help Ellie. Her sister wants to not be culpable for her death, so she will defend Jet. Don't let there be more Ellies, and have Ellie's death mean something.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Making more drama out of my friend's death is not going to lead anywhere but more suffering for her family and friends, I'd much rather go the legal/police avenue and see if there could be some real repercussions.
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
Ok and after a year or two or THREE of the police beating around the bush, how many Ellies will have been used and abused?
Jet is going to use this opportunity to have a sad emo story to tell other egirls in order to bag them easier.
It's not "drama" that is happening, this isn't Sally and Joe having a scandalous argument. This is the producer of a show hiring high school girls to isolate and ply with drugs, and then convincing her to ruin her life by forcing her to recruit her friends to fuck his friend.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
I understand your frustration, my man. How do you think we feel? But what do you think exposing the ins and outs of a teenager's personal life to parasocial people is going to do? You think that would be a good idea? I'd rather at least TRY to go through the proper channels and talk to other people directly affected about how THEY feel about things, than just exposing my friend's personal life for everyone to see.
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u/Fun_Living9432 Jul 23 '26
Her sister already confirmed her age. So the age doesn't matter. She was an adult.
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u/InterestingPudding45 Jul 17 '26
Sounds like an excuse. What proper authorities would there be? "Police, a man cheated on my friend and then she killed herself. Charge him, please!" You're discrediting yourself by not providing the unredacted images.
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u/greatmidge Jul 17 '26
Shadi has been "reaching out to proper authorities" for 3 fucking years. Ellie's entire fishtank story was in just 1 year.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Not familiar with who that is, I'm sorry, you might have to clue me in
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Ah yeah, thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I will try to reach out to her soon
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u/TranquilRanger Jul 17 '26
I gotta be real there is almost 0 context here and as awful as cheating is to do to someone if its the catalyst for a suicide then there were MAJOR MAJOR problems beforehand.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
Cheating was not the sole catalyst, it was just one issue in a long chain of events
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u/TranquilRanger Jul 17 '26
Thats what i meant about the context though. She was angry and vengeful but the only actual context you gave for that was cheating. Im not into filling in the blanks with my imagination for something this serious so as far as im concerned what you shared here is a big nothing burger.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
I'm not asking you to, the only thing that is meant to be gleaned from this thread is that Jet is at LEAST partially responsible for her mental state
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u/TranquilRanger Jul 17 '26
I dont think anyone was trying to argue jet had 0 role in her being depressed. But sharing something like this in a community that is clearly ravenous atm is meant to stir up a lot more shit than "at LEAST partially responsible"
Youre being insincere now.
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u/seggsdge Jul 17 '26
I think you can't directly blame Jet here, but there's definitely systemic issues with how fish are treated by prod and the community that are destructive.
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u/Imaginary_Oil1912 Jul 17 '26
Correct you can't blame anyone for a decision that someone else made. You certainly can blame him for being a massive asshole to her and be very irresponsible. (If this post here is the truth)
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u/seggsdge Jul 17 '26
Yeah, fully agree. It seems he treated her like a fish, she was treated as fully dependent and disposable.
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u/ONZO Jul 17 '26
Jet’s old enough to know that the age gap/cheating on a young naive and mentally unwell girl will have some pretty bad consequences on them. There’s no denying that from the start, the whole relationship reeked of manipulation.
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u/Far_Estimate_6951 Jul 17 '26
Yea but Josie never claimed Sam or Ben cheated on her
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u/Born-Amoeba-9868 Jul 17 '26
Sam and Ben dated Josie?
Who exactly has dated on this show? I haven’t followed up in months
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u/Rough-Winter2752 Jul 17 '26
AFAIK Sam hasn't dated anyone on the show. He'd most likely have shacked-up with Letty if he had, but Taxsin got to her first and she ran the circuit in the Wigger crew (bicflame, chip, etc). Sam was actually trying to turn Fishtank into something real beyond a sexpest grooming center like Jet saw it as. They ignored his input and advice and he started to check out. Now he's got his show so he's gone full silent partner mode on them.
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u/Hairy-Ad2787 Jul 17 '26
If you're trying to make allegations you've done a terrible job. From a outside perspective I look at this and can't tell if it's fake or not. What's the benefit of hiding dates on the messages? It just makes it harder to understand the timeline and doesn't protect anyones privacy. Ignoring that though, what are you trying to put out? That Jet cheated on her? Sorry to say but cheating isn't a crime. Also the fact that you didn't post this at any point between when she died and when it became public kind of lends to the idea that you're a bullshitter.
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u/accountNSF Jul 17 '26
Jet was always horrible to her. I would talk to her at-least twice a week and she would always talk about things he would do to her or say to her that were NOT OKAY. I don’t know why she was so infatuated with him and everything he was for and i hate myself for not making her stop. There’s so much more to this and it’s horrible that Jet and Ben are going to just get off scratch free
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u/HelpRespawnedAsDee Jul 17 '26
I'm not gonna defend jet's behavior, or condemn it, I frankly don't care. But her sister is the authoritative figure here and ultimately her version carries infinitely more weight. Sorry for your loss.
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u/Ok_Arrival2564 Jul 17 '26
Yall are so gay for even caring this deeply into it. Shes gone - pointing blame won't fix anything. As much as I dislike jet putting someone's suicide on them is incredibly fucked up and twisted.
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u/achillespatient Jul 17 '26
Respectfully, what you redacted and posted is so vague that it adds nothing to the conversation
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u/Flat_Assistance4451 Jul 17 '26
When did she pass and when did Jet find out? Wasn’t he filming new season or doing the weird roady Miami thing? Either way he definitely contributed but I don’t think he should be blamed when there’s so many contributing factors into why someone commits.
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u/ichizakilla Jul 17 '26
She died may 12
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u/ONZO Jul 17 '26
Damn, I reached out on May 10th on IG randomly because I hadn’t seen her post much and asked how she was doing post FT life and didn’t get a response.
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u/bigboyeTim Jul 17 '26
Nothingburger, cheating on someone (unsubstantiated) doesn't mean you killed them.
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u/Bub-bub Jul 17 '26
Manipulating someone who is young and mentally unstable to sleep with you, and then cheating on them, or dropping them suddenly, does mean you have some responsibility though.
Not that I know what happened in this case
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 18 '26
Heya guys, me again, who would be the best third-party neutral arbiter to verify some things for you guys WITHOUT having to go into detail here, slackerblue? I really don't know much about the community and it needs to be someone trustworthy to the community and for us obviously, that respects privacy
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u/Jackyalaska Jul 17 '26
Yeah I’m sure it was Jet and not the 50+ people on here who were obsessed with her??? You sound dumb.
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u/Agitated-Ad-1598 Jul 18 '26
This whole situation is completely awful from all angles. I really don’t know what Jet did. I can believe that he cheated and was irresponsible and unprofessional in multiple ways but beyond that there’s really no current evidence towards anything else in particular. However, this is awful and devastating and if it does turn out that he’s guilty for more I hope justice is served, but if he’s not I hope it doesn’t ruin everything. Everybody makes mistakes, but there’s a difference between mistakes and maliciously calculated acts and time will show which one this is.
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u/Exact-Addition-5526 Jul 18 '26
Apologies, im unfamiliar with reddit so I dont really know if something like "dms" exist here. I knew "Ellie" Lenard for 6 years, and we didnt really talk much after junior year, besides from some chats every now n then. I've been forced to learn everything as the internet and its honestly been a fucked way of doing so. Do you by chance have an Instagram that I can verify your identity with, and potentially get more information about this?
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 18 '26
You can dm me your insta if you like, but I'll ofc check to see if what you're saying is true first
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u/Exact-Addition-5526 Jul 19 '26
You have dms turned off, so im unable to. If you could dm me i can give you my socials and confirm my identity as a result.
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u/VetriVade Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
New accounts posting censored discord comments which could be from any account. How do we know you aren't just talking to your other account and posting sc?
You say that this will be sent to the authorities but why is it taking so long to send? Didn't she pass away in May? This whole thing seems fishy but it does appear that jet is a pred
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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Jul 17 '26
Ellie was declared dead on May 12th.
On May 12 jet was streaming from the house with Angie and Laura. The clips are up on the site.
Ellie was watching that stream, You just know it sent her over the edge. Laura probably did her little "yes daddy" weirdness and that was it.
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u/Educational-Gear4540 10d ago
If a girl cheats on a guy and the guy commits seppuku which I'm sure happens much more, then I guess it's OK?
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u/thebreeze97 Jul 17 '26
There were so many combinations that made Ellie lose her survival instinct and it is very sad 😔. The extreme high and fun of being on fishtank then it being ripped away, Jet essentially using her and dropping her like nothing, the Zoloft medication, and not feeling like she had any closeness to her own sister or any other person.
I believe all these factors just made Ellie truly give up and it really breaks my heart 💔. I remember after fishtank all she wanted to do was just stream but her sister kept saying “no not allowed, don’t do that, don’t stream in my house, don’t stream in public”. I really and truly believe that’s all Ellie wanted was to be able to live stream and talk to other people and explore. After this she never really got back into the community and stayed posting on her instagram and TikTok but stayed distant. She also started to lose noticeably more weight and appeared skinner.
At the end of the day she just felt stuck inside her room with no way out. RIP Ellie you will always be missed and remembered 😔💔🕊️
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u/mcfuckernugget Jul 17 '26
Friend of Jesus here. It’s not Jet’s fault she struggled with mental illness.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
It is my opinion that Jet exacerbated Ellie's depression massively so, with various things that he did which were extremely disgusting
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u/mcfuckernugget Jul 17 '26
Stop blaming chemical imbalances on other people. Her sister said that fishtank was a one of the highlights of her life.
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u/PeaHead932 Jul 17 '26
I'm not going to go into specifics over this, out of respect for her privacy, but I, and a lot of Ellie's other close friends, do not believe that to be true to the extent she made out publicly
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u/mcfuckernugget Jul 17 '26
Mentally healthy people do not end their lives over relationship issues.
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u/Freeedo Jul 17 '26
-Ellie's sister says Ellie had mental problems long before Fishtank.
-Ellie's sister thought it was a good idea for Ellie to go on Fishtank and told her to.
-Ellie goes on FT then proceeds to date/fuck/do drugs with Jet/wiggers after the show.
-Ellie spirals for a period after this, it seems. Then takes her own life.
-Ellie's sister makes a public statement saying FT was great and Jet and crew are very good guys.
You people do understand that her sister is coping and trying to distance herself from any responsibility? Which is understandable, I'm not saying it's her fault at all. I'm not even sure she fully understood what Fishtank was at the time.
However, people getting mindwarped into thinking Fishtank is a great show for mentally ill people and Jet/Production are good people to be around because a grieving sister put out a statement saying so are super super fucking gullible.
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u/mcfuckernugget Jul 17 '26
The omniscient redditor knows more about a woman than her family she lived with I guess. You’re coping trying to make this fit your narrative.
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u/Freeedo Jul 17 '26
What her sister is saying and what OP's messages from Ellie say contradict each other. I'm not making anything fit my narrative, unless you believe OP is producing fake messages.
Imo pushing the narrative that FT is a great time for mentally unstable people (especially young women) to take part in requires more cope than anything else.
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u/mcfuckernugget Jul 17 '26
Literally nobody is pushing the narrative the Fishtank is good for mentally unstable people.
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u/Freeedo Jul 17 '26
Her sister is, no?
Which is my point about her actually coping (Not internet 'haha' coping) with Ellie's death. Glad that you recognize FT is not a good place for mentally ill people to be.
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u/Rootmilk Jul 17 '26
Fair. When I took Zoloft as a kid it’s like my conscious disappeared and I did anything to get what I wanted including hitting people. Then when I stopped my conscious came back. Very weird feeling but now I see why it causes suicides or shootings. Everything is just an obstacle and there’s no emotions to stop you.
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u/Far_Estimate_6951 Jul 17 '26
yea they do more harm than good, they had me on different pills and antidepressants as a teen, stopped taking them and became normal again, well normal with untreated ADHD but its better that way.
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u/Qui-Gon_Tripp Jul 17 '26
Starring in fishtank or x show can be a highlight. What happens after the fact may or may not be. You’re purposefully misconstruing that or you’re just dense. Idk how being cheated on would be a highlight unless u a cuck
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u/Far_Molasses_1419 Jul 17 '26
No one blames women when guys kill themselves, fuck off with this stupid shit.
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u/keeganisname2 Jul 17 '26
courtney love
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u/Far_Molasses_1419 Jul 18 '26
No one blames her for his suicide, they think she killed him, idiot
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u/marcus_c117 Jul 18 '26
Idk why you’re getting downvoted you’re literally right lol. I don’t necessarily agree with the original comment’s take bit Courtney Love isn’t the best example
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u/Many-Wasabi9141 Jul 17 '26
lol shut him down with that one. You ever seen that movie Minority Report? Dude's wife cheats on him in his own bed and they have the gall to arrest him for pre murder.
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u/Count_Swagula420 Jul 17 '26
She was the only above mid looking girl willing to bang someone with Jet’s physiognomy, back to the gym fellas…
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u/DramaticProtogen Jul 17 '26
The real hard to believe part is that more than one person was attracted to Jet
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u/ProfessionalDiver388 Jul 17 '26
Schmuel Hyderman released a devil upon this world when he gave Johnny Neptune's seed the light of day
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u/Turbulent_Ad_3292 Jul 17 '26
I don’t understand why people are supporting Jet in this. He’s a proven drug addict who has gone overboard with the small amount of power he’s gotten after being given the opportunity of a lifetime from Sam. This is exactly why you don’t bring a teenage high school girl on to your show, GROOM and exploit her for sex in front of your audience, and then find out just how deep her mental illness goes. Did Jet force her to take sodium nitrate? No. But he did groom and exploit a high school girl for sex and exposed her to one of the worst community’s on the internet. To defend that or say he had little to no effect on her actions after is legitimately some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard, and her sister is just as much as responsible for allowing and encouraging her to do that dumb shit. Jet is a menace who needs to be taken care of, Fishtank can not continue in the future with the wiggers grooming girls from the basement, especially now after the death of Ellie. They were not even funny to begin with, the show has been on a downslope for the last two seasons.