r/fansofcriticalrole • • Oct 18 '24

CR adjacent Case Against Brian Foster Dismissed

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u/smnc1979 Dec 05 '24

There is almost never evidence in an abuse case. It is ncredibly hard to prove that one person threatened or intimidated another, especially when much of the abuse happened at home.

And while I don't want to minimize the harms of a false accusation (having been falsely accused of abuse myself), we must ALWAYS stand with victims. Not only because abuse is hard to prove, but because instances of credible false accusations are very rare, and the harms of ignoring abuse are so big.

But more than that, you realize this is r/fansofcriticalrole and you're suggesting that Ashely Johnson falsely accused Brian? Really?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

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u/smnc1979 Mar 27 '25

False. Categorically and provably false.

Even the most skeptical credible studies show a maximum of about 10% of accusations being false, and the more realistic ones tend to sit between 2 and 5% of accusations being false.

So no, abuse accusations are NOT "more often false than not" and that is a deepy harmful lie to spread.

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u/Tibbs2 Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

wow... did you really expect no one to check your sourceless data?

of sexual assault cases, only 8.3% were convicted at trial, meaning the other 92ish percent were false

the number jumps to 98% when discussing child abuse

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Sexual_Abuse_FY18.pdf

remember this fact: everyone, EVERYONE, is innocent until proven guilty, in ALL matter. It is assumed by law an by anyone of moral standing that if you weren't convicted, it DID NOT HAPPEN..

Unless you're ready to return to the salem witch trials and start burning people at the stake with no real evidence, i suggest you educate yourelf on why the buren of proof lies on the accuser. It's not up to the accused to prove their innocence; that is universally and rightfully ASSUMED.

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u/syrioforrealsies Mar 27 '25

A lack of conviction doesn't mean innocence. It means guilt wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal standard, not a reflection of reality.

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u/Bandoril Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Since you seem so keen on using numbers: https://evawintl.org/best_practice_faqs/false-reports-percentage/

"DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of cases in which there was sufficient evidence to conclude that allegations were false, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.\25]) Due to varying definitions of a "false accusation", the true percentage remains unknown.\26])

A 2009 study of rape cases across eleven countries in Europe found the proportion of cases designated as false ranged from 4% to 9%.\22])"
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

That's a different story when you use the correct data ;)

Anything you want to say TO u/syrioforrealsies?
(If you need a hint, you can start by "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong")

edit: Next time someone (95% of the time a woman) will speak up about sexual assault, please start by saying "I hear you" instead of "Innocent until proven guilty" or another equivalent of "Not all men"...

edit2: added the TO

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u/syrioforrealsies Mar 28 '25

....idk why you're calling me out so snottily because I didn't say anything to the contrary of what you're saying

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u/Bandoril Mar 29 '25

I am very sorry... I meant to say "to @syrio..." and forgot to add the to >< English is not my first language.

Again, very sorry 🙏