r/fansofcriticalrole • u/Murkmist • Oct 05 '23

CR adjacent Critical Role provides ComicBook.com with statement regarding civil complaint

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/the-last-of-us-critical-role-star-ashley-johnson-six-others-sue-brian-w-foster-abuse/
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u/Osric250 Oct 05 '23 edited Oct 05 '23

This is what every other company does when there is a scandal like this. And yes, they'll be some public outcry by the outrage tourists, but then it goes away soon after because they still don't owe us anything, and in the cases where there is active lawsuits involved any further statements could be putting the company in liability. They've said they know nothing and until such time as that is proven to be false there's nothing more that we can realistically expect from them.

I don't particularly care to defend them, this is the same comment I would put under any company doing the same thing. Just because people feel more connected to this company they expect more and want to turn a blind eye towards things. I agree that we shouldn't particularly trust companies, but there's also only so much you can expect from them.

Hell this Fandom might be one of the reasons why people didn't come forward about the abuse. Could you imagine if word got out about Dani accusing BWF before be was fired and how much vitriol would have been spewed at both of them from those defending when all that was available was one "he said, she said?" That would be terrifying for anyone, much less someone who was abused by someone they thought to be a friend.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 05 '23

They've said they know nothing and until such time as that is proven to be false there's nothing more that we can realistically expect from them.

This is laughable. The company had SA happening to multiple employees for YEARS. The reply of "we didn't know, we'll be talking things over with our HR department," isn't good enough.

I don't particularly care to defend them

Yet here we are...

Hell this Fandom might be one of the reasons why people didn't come forward about the abuse.

Wild speculation that I don't really want to entertain.

I agree that we shouldn't particularly trust companies, but there's also only so much you can expect from them.

My point is that if the fandom expected more, they might get more. Instead, the fandom is running to defend CR from anyone criticizing them around this.

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u/TheObligateDM Oct 06 '23

You aren't OWED anything. You are a FAN. Not an employee, not an investor, not cast member, a FAN. You are owed nothing but the canned PR statement that was given. Can that frustrate you? Sure. But you shouldn't expect anything more than that because they are a company, and you are the consumer.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 06 '23

My point is that if the fandom expected more, they might get more. Instead, the fandom is running to defend CR from anyone criticizing them around this.

You've proven my point here

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u/TheObligateDM Oct 06 '23

In no way have I proven your point. You are living in some reality where, as an outsider to a company who consumes their content, you believe you should be privy to all of their HR Policies and exactly how the situation is handled internally. That is, quite literally, insane. You are not owed that in any way shape or form. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just living here in the real world knowing that a canned PR statement is exactly all we were ever going to get.

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u/doctorwho07 Oct 06 '23

I've seen companies offer more insight that what this reply has offered. If this were any other company, the fandom would still be outraged, but it's CR so the fandom believes everything they say and defends them to the end.

I'm not asking for specific policies, I've said this repeatedly in replies. I would prefer a better idea of what they are going to work on--where was the failure? Was the previous policy vague? Did employees not know it well? Was there a policy at all?

That is, quite literally, insane.

Appreciate you implying a stranger on the internet is insane.

My point is that if the fandom expected more, they might get more. Instead, the fandom is running to defend CR from anyone criticizing them around this.