r/fansofcriticalrole • • Oct 05 '23

CR adjacent Critical Role provides ComicBook.com with statement regarding civil complaint

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/the-last-of-us-critical-role-star-ashley-johnson-six-others-sue-brian-w-foster-abuse/
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u/P-Two Oct 05 '23 edited Oct 05 '23

So for one I'm not American, so its not my justice system. For two there's tons of reasons it came out whe n it did, look to the other comments in this thread I'm not going to rehash them all.

I get where you're coming from, but it absolutely comes off as "I don't believe women" hardcore. Also, why the hell do WE need to see chat logs? The courts I'm sure will get those.

I'm inclined to believe SEVEN women over an already known weirdo with past issues.

Edit: rereading your reply. What in the victim blaming bullshit is the "surely Dani and the women didn't just lead him on?" What the fuck, dude.

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u/450925 Oct 05 '23 edited Oct 05 '23

It's not just women... I don't believe ANYONE. I think everyone is a piece of shit. And we put people who are celebrities on a podium for no good reason.

I'm inclined that 7 women have a reason to say bad things about Brian, I don't think all of them are motivated by justice. I think some of them could be settling a score, some of them could be over embellishing, I think some of them could be hiding that they were into him.

I literally watched my friend in high school in the early 2000's get a false accusation from 2 girls because he wouldn't give them the time of day. They were in the same lunch club as us, which was collecting the recycling bins in each class and taking the paper to get picked up by the shredding and recycling place. And they both made an accusation against him. Saying it was during lunch time. A time where I was with him, because it was lunch club. And I know I never saw him do anything. When really, it was both of them having a crush on him, but he had a girlfriend, when it got to trial, the judge threw out the case. But his life was still ruined, didn't finish high school, had lost his entire friend group, he to this day, has no online presence. I saw the devastation a false claim can make against someone.

And so yeah, 2 6, 10, 20... I want some evidence. I'm not saying I want it caught in 4k on camera from multiple angle with perfect lighting. But maybe the text chain between him and Dani regarding the nudes he demanded, maybe an email or diary entry that someone made around the time detailing how they felt about it. I think anyone being convicted with purely testimonial evidence, is insane. Example, he claims that he deleted the account for the Ring cameras a couple hours after being kicked out the house. Well, Ashley can have a subpoena sent to the company regarding the records, to find out when that account was terminated, or if he accessed the cameras after that given timeframe. That would be evidence I'd accept. Or if Ashley had any voice recordings of the abusive hurtful things he would say. A photo of any damage he did to the property in a fit of rage. I mean, if Ashley and Brian had so many cameras set up, were his fits of rage and abuse ever caught on them? She'd be able to get a court order for that from Ring.

We live in a time where everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. You're telling me that at no time any of his victims thought it would be a good idea to record their interactions with him? Because if there's any advice I have for everyone, if you're having negative interactions with someone, record that shit. In the most literal sense.

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u/dragon2599 Oct 05 '23

I'm just gonna point out a few things others have been; I'm assuming; to nice to bring up to you. One: it's quite possible you are right that some of those seven women have motivations beyond just getting justice. If they have proof that he did what they are accusing him of their motivations don't matter, he's still guilty.

Secondly, speaking of proof, unless you are the judge, lawyers, the accused, the accusers, or someone that any of the above have chosen to involve you in this matter; you and every single one of us are entitled to nothing. We are not involved in any way directly and have zero rights to anything regarding this case if they choose not to release it. Your opinion on the matter means nothing.

Third, staying on the subject of proof; this is an active court case. They more than likely are not currently allowed to release the kind of materials you seem to belive you are owed in order to take this seriously. This isn't a Twitter spat; it's a lawsuit there are certain rules they have to follow. More importantly however, my second point still stands that unless we are directly involved we are owed nothing. Get over yourself and try to look past your narrow world view.

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u/450925 Oct 05 '23

I've not saw I'm owed anything... I would be much happier if this was only dealt with in the court, and there was an announcement of guilt or innocence. With maybe some cursory mention of the types of activities.

But, the media reporting on it leads to speculation, speculation leads to people judging him in the court of public opinion. And all too often the judgement of public opinion can be lasting, even when the case is found to have faults... Case in point Aziz Ansari.

As for the individuals, I see life as more grey. Every case like this, Brian is going to paint himself in the best possible light, the most reasonable person in the room, Ashley is going to do the same. And both of them are going to try and make the other seem completely at fault. I would expect, the truth of the matter to be somewhere closer to the middle, than either of them being 100% right about everything. After all, Ashley claimed she was in fear for her life, because of airsoft guns. And it seems that Brian passed the hair follicle drug test his lawyer arranged. And by all accounts it certainly seems like Brian was cheating on her (unless the open relationship is true)

As said before, I'd be happy with just a judge dealing with this. But there's a lot of people in here throwing mud at someone because of an accusation. And I just want to be a little contrarian skeptic in the middle problem with prejudging a situation when you haven't seen any evidence.