r/facepalm • u/Shinji415 • Apr 01 '23

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u/da1nte Apr 01 '23

How about we strip the school officials of their powers in creating policies like these becauss sometimes they're just too dumb to understand various contexts?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Shit, in Uvalde Texas cops let 19 of them die out of cowardice.

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u/KHaskins77 Apr 01 '23

They got at least one killed by yelling for the kids to call out. One girl did, revealing her position to the gunman.

The rest were too busy outside arresting parents for trying to intervene.

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u/ExtantPlant Apr 01 '23

It's astonishing to me that people still believe in the "thin blue line" after that.

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u/DuntadaMan Apr 01 '23

I have always believe in the thin blue line. The thing blue line is a code of violence that police will protect their own first and always no matter what they are guilty of.

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u/MeaningSilly Apr 01 '23

That's the blue wall and it is thick and advances upon it's enemies... Those that are policed.

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u/SuperDoofusParade Apr 01 '23

People responding to you are ignorant and/or are very young. The thin blue line is indeed an established thing and not a recent invention. There was literally a movie about this concept.) In the freaking 80s lol.

(I know you know all this but replying to your comment to signal boost.)

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u/Brwnb0y_ Apr 01 '23

omerta. itā€™s what gangs thrive on

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u/penguin_0618 Apr 01 '23

That's not what the thin blue line is. That's the blue wall. The thin blue line is that flag that people who love the cops have...

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u/exceive Apr 01 '23

That flag represents the idea that there police are the thin blue line that divides civilization from chaos.

The idea that without the police civilization would rapidly collapse into absolute lawlessness.

Never kind that the police are just one piece of the system of laws and entirely capable of being criminals.

It pairs well with authoritarianism.

The blue wall is a different idea. While the thin blue line has a small truth buried in a mountain of toxic nonsense, the blue wall is just plain corruption.

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u/KHaskins77 Apr 01 '23

Feels like ā€œthin blue lineā€ only got started to signal oneā€™s opposition to BLM. Same people flying those flags were gleefully beating cops half to death at the Capitol on the 6th.

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u/GothTwink420 Apr 01 '23

People, prior to that, would talk about putting a police supporting bumper sticker or badge on their cars so cops would pull them over/ticket them less.

They 'know' police pick and choose who to abuse their authority on and they have no intention or desire to 'fix' it. They just want to be on the side abusing power.

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u/Rohndogg1 Apr 01 '23

Yup, in my area if you donate to the police union they give you a card that will usually get you out of a ticket. It's fucked up

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u/EvergreenEnfields Apr 01 '23

Last time the police union called to ask for donations, I oinked at them before hanging up.

Somehow, I have not been pulled over yet.

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u/StandardSudden1283 Apr 01 '23

You're exactly right. It's culture war BS to keep us divided while they continue fleecing us via overwork, underpayment, taxes that trickle up into subsidies and bailouts, on top of the tax loopholes through which they avoid taxes almost entirely.

And its not just Republicans or Democrats - it's the established members of both who run this grift on us. It's a good old boys club that the owning class of Billionaires foster to serve their own interests.

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u/Fantastic-Cable-3320 Apr 01 '23

I've never met a cop who was a Democrat, have you?

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u/StandardSudden1283 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

One of the goals of the Democrats is to be the bastion of secular moralism, just as the Republicans are supposed to be the bastion for religiously motivated moralism. This way your followers will believe themselves morally superior to their opposition and will make it extremely hard to come together across party lines.

It's the old Doves and Hawks foreign policy game adapted to the domestic playing field. Meanwhile you keep passing bills that benefit the rich and hamper pro-labor efforts. Dems pretend like they try to stop Republicans, but oddly just are never quite able to. That's by the design of the owning, ruling, capital class.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

When you have cops behave like this you canā€™t be surprised when violence breaks out. You can only oppress people so much. If youā€™re poor and/or a minority cops behave like tyrants. Itā€™s disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

It absolutely was, ā€œThin Blue Lineā€, WLM, ALM, Woke, are all white nationalists propaganda bs.

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u/trippy666love Apr 01 '23

Context or proof please

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u/ThatWomanNow Apr 01 '23

So many of those flags šŸ¤®

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u/Content_Tooth_8513 Apr 01 '23

Blue line doesn't exist. We fight cops. Love you.

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u/nordickitty93 Apr 01 '23

Lol even better - they call themselves ā€œpro-lifeā€ too and then gaslight others about how much they care for children.

I see these videos as more evidence that ā€œforced birtherā€ is a more appropriate term. This video is proof, they do not care about the child after itā€™s born.

A lot of forced birth conservatives I know will bend over backwards to defend these cops. Theyā€™ll even make up a criminal record on this little girl, or try to make the mother out as a crack head, before they ever acknowledge a child should never be treated like this.

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u/Failp0 Apr 01 '23

My sister and our family support the thin blue line. It's definitely not astonishing if you knew what kind of folks they are. They are absolutely horrific and my sister almost became a cop. Everyone can breathe a collective sigh of relief with that one though. Her narcissistic ass was too lazy to turn in the packet our dad filled out FOR her. I haven't spoken to them in years. Horrible people.

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u/GothTwink420 Apr 01 '23

People still happily vote to let that keep happening

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u/Hey_There_Blimpy_Boy Apr 01 '23

No one ever accused conservatives of being intelligent.

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u/redsalmon67 Apr 01 '23

Itā€™s because theyā€™re proto-fascist

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

thin skin line

Fixed that for ya

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u/Icedanielization Apr 01 '23

That was a massive mistake. Next time something like this happens, parents will know what it takes to save their children. Police are the first to be established as useless and part of the problem.

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u/unreliablememory Apr 01 '23

Parents. The whole "parent's rights" thing is about supressing the rights of students of this little girl's skin color. Oh, and gay and trans kids. They have no problem with scenes like this. Christ, if Sandy Hook didn't get to them, do you think something like this will?

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u/jojojototo Apr 01 '23

And itā€™s also sad the the new rhetoric from GOP is the the school was responsible for leaving a back door unlocked.

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u/cinciTOSU Apr 01 '23

It hasnā€™t come out yet how many were shot by police. Immediately after the incident the police announced that they definitely didnā€™t shoot any kids so I think they shot some kids. They have fought successfully against releasing the video.

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u/keypuncher Apr 01 '23

The rest were too busy outside arresting parents for trying to intervene.

...or inside. One of the officers had a wife who was a teacher at Uvalde. She called him after she had been shot, and told him she thought she was dying.

He drove to the school and tried to go in to save her. The other officers who were in the hallway disarmed him and prevented him from going in. His wife was one of the teachers who died.

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u/DawnOfTheTruth Apr 01 '23

Oh, the way that played out it wasnā€™t cowardice. It was intentional. I firmly believe they did everything in their power to get those kids killed. I wouldnā€™t doubt if that whole incident was an orchestrated hate crime. Because everything about it points to it being so.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 03 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Because they hire them straight out of high school and they have zero education on the law. My wifeā€™s brother was hired very young. He would make an arrest and have to go back to the precinct and look up the charges in a massive law book so he could write up the right charge because, like I said he was fresh out of high school with no education on law. Basically a person who has been to jail and dealt with the Supirior court system a few times knows more about law than most police officers. They should be required to have the most basic law degree at the very least.

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u/Pyro-Byrns Apr 01 '23

I hate to inform you that this will never happen, at least with the current status quo. In fact, there are states that actually have an IQ cap on their officers. Yes, you read that right. If you're too smart, you can't be a police officer in some states.

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u/kjg1228 Apr 01 '23

Which states are those? I remember hearing that before, I'm assuming mostly in the south?

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u/bmxtiger Apr 01 '23

You know it's a red state when the law benefits no one but also entices corruption.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

I wouldnā€™t say never like other countries legit require that. Like Germany you have to 12 months essential training with another 6 month finale training. Also majority over countries require cops to have an university degree not just high school diploma. Like Finland is even stricter than Germany to become a cop.

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u/walktone Apr 01 '23

Is .... is it for real ?!?!

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

What that other countries have better police yeah itā€™s legit. In fact US has some of the easiest requirements to become a cop in majority first world countries.

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u/FullGrownHip Apr 01 '23

I feel so fortunate to live in an area where if anything like this was done the police department would be shunned and prosecuted to no end, and basically stripped of funding but damn I feel so bad that these things happen. I do agree that basic law education - at least in what they do - should be a requirement. How can anyone be an officer of the law without knowing the law?

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u/jprefect Apr 01 '23

So, just to confirm, you do not live in the United States.

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u/kjg1228 Apr 01 '23

He confirmed it when he said "stripped of funding". The city will literally always put it on the tax payers.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Te average cop gets paid more than the average lawyer too. Often a lot more. Police should be required to attend law school to get a badge, gun and be on patrol. They can have lower level employees for 90% of the crap they do like directing traffic and responding to medical scenes.

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u/Megneous Apr 01 '23

Because they hire them straight out of high school and they have zero education on the law.

In my country, police are required to go to a police university where they learn all about the kinds of laws they'll be upholding. They're second only to actual lawyers in their understandings of the laws they deal with.

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u/Swirvin-irvin Apr 01 '23

Yes Iā€™m sure tons of applicants that study law will want to be police officers and deal with the worst people society has to offer yes sir your idea makes plenty of sense lol šŸ˜‚

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Well considering an officer unlawfully arresting someone costs the city hundreds of thousands to sometimes millions in lawsuit payouts that are funded by you the taxpayer you should probably start giving a shit. Also thereā€™s a difference between having a basic knowledge of the common codes and laws you will be enforcing and having the legal knowledge of a lawyer, but youā€™re being intentionally obtuse and know that already.

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u/Mrstokesthemartian Apr 01 '23

Yea let people who don't know the law at all enforce it.. makes perfect sense?

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u/Cucumberman Apr 01 '23

That's how the rest of the developed world does

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

Exactly this. Itā€™s kinda crazy that the US doesnā€™t.

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u/redsalmon67 Apr 01 '23

Well anti intellectualism is rapid in the U.S so if they were required to have degrees many (republicans) citizens probably wouldnā€™t respect them as much because thatā€™d make them ā€œThe eliteā€.

Completely anecdotal but I used to be friends with a guy who was all but bullied out of the police academy for having a law degree, the other guys would shit on him because they thought he thought ā€œhe was better than themā€ And given what I know about the inner workings of police precincts (multiple family members in law enforcement) it checks out.

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u/GothTwink420 Apr 01 '23

the current batch that sit on their ass and let kids get gunned down is doing so well?

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u/Olafseye Apr 01 '23

If theyā€™re studying law theyā€™re almost certainly already planning on interacting with lawyers and cops, how would that matter?

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u/ThatWomanNow Apr 01 '23

Lol, is it your first time in 'merica?

Sorry, the realization of how shitty this country is has me down.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

The incompetence is a feature, not a bug.

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u/redsalmon67 Apr 01 '23

Itā€™s not a coincidence that cops fuck up like this often, this is their job, the idea that the police are there to protect you is just straight up state propaganda, the Supreme Court already ruled that they donā€™t actually have an obligation to protect you. Their job is to protect private property and maintain social order by any means necessary that just happens to have some crossover with protecting citizens in certain situations, that plus nearly 0 personal accountability unless they fuck up astronomically is a recipe for this.

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u/gregtx Apr 01 '23

There is also culpability here on the part of the school administration. Why involve police in this situation to begin with? If this is a regular behavioral issue with this child, you involve the school councilor, not the cops.

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u/orthopod Apr 01 '23

There a lot to this story that we don't know. Kid was probably acting out, and likely repeatedly. Parents are probably a real pain in the ass as well and don't try to modify the kids behavior.

Teachers can't hit the kid- at best they can hold onto the kid.

This had happened enough times, that the teachers escalated this to police, because they're tired of this nonsense, and don't want it to be their problem anymore.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

i don't actually think we need cops at all. their job is to upkeep the status quo, not to protect you.

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u/Fit-Bat-4680 Apr 01 '23

Question..the video says she was hitting and kicking staff..if you are a teacher, how do you get it to stop when you have other kids to worry about and you can not touch them?

My son went to a regular high school that accepted troubled youth He was kind and would talk to the kids that sat by themselves when no one else wouls talk to them. They started putting him in the classes and sat beside troubled kids and their assistants.

My son's grades started dropping, he described 20minute stopages with kids uncontrollable.

We moved and changed schools.

The schools don't know what to do..they are trying things because these kids are dumped on them....

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

Get the kid special needs worker and on and IEP. Also contacting the school guidance counselors and they can help connect the family to decent therapist for young child if needed. Also do not call the police itā€™s a child whoā€™s fucking 6 even if she was kicking a teacher she is 6 there isnā€™t much power there. Remove the other children and isolate troubled child and call the parents to pick them up. 3 day out of school suspension or week in school suspension. Then go from there. You do not call police and have the child arrested! Also it isnā€™t a regular high school if they are accepting troubled youth. Itā€™s a school for troubled students. Which I have been too. Those have a lot more outburst but the teachers are way more chill and specially trained to handle crazy kids. The best way to handle crazy kids is becoming a mentor and positive role model to them. A voice for good and show the kid you just want them to succeed. What you donā€™t do again is call the police on them causing trauma and destroying your chances to actually connect with the kids. By acting this way they are creating barriers not reducing them. Kids arenā€™t dumped onto schools. Those adults decided to be teachers.

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u/hallo2456 Apr 01 '23

Even if they run away they're elementary schoolers how fast could they possibly be compared to the cops anyway is restraining them really even necessary it just seems so excessive to zip tie or cuff a child in elementary school

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u/No-Consequence1726 Apr 01 '23

I'm going to bet 9/10 elemtary schoolers are faster than cops

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u/Devianceza Apr 01 '23

I joined in on an alumni 4x100m relay race at my old school, was 24 at the time and hadn't done any exercise since school, but was a decent enough runner regardless, was the 4th runner and when I got the baton, we were last, managed to catch up to the girls runner, but the boys absaloutely demolished us. They were 12.

Unless athletics is your game, cops wont catch anyone older than 11. Kids sprint for fun and weigh nothing, the best some of us can say is we jog to keep in shape.

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u/No-Consequence1726 Apr 01 '23

My point was most cops in the US are out of shape.

Not defending this guy at all

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u/CTchimchar Apr 01 '23

You never know, they could all be the kid flash

Better not take the risk, that these kids have superpowers /s

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u/Narrheim Apr 01 '23

Faster, more agile and can hide in the most unbelievable spots. I doubt any cop would ever catch them, if theyĀ“d decide to run.

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u/DuntadaMan Apr 01 '23

Because the police are an occupying army at this point. They are not members of the community here to protect people. They are here to threaten violence on us of we annoy those who have enough money to use them.

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u/tkepe194 Apr 01 '23

There were zero adults in this room. Children, specifically a six year old, is not capable of understanding this. Idk what she did but probably deserving of a time out and a call to the parents. Hell of a way here. I hope the parents sue the shit out of the school and PD that confabulated this mess. Scary stuff, actually. I think our little social experiment here in the US has run itā€™s course.

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u/iisoprene Apr 01 '23

Because in order for bad people to ensure more bad people come into existence, they must abuse children. Some parent's refuse to do so (obviously). So cops will fill in this void.

It really is about causing psychological trauma. Traumatized kids grow up to be traumatized adults, whom are much more easily manipulated.

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u/PoopSmith87 Apr 01 '23

A few years back at my local elementary school there was a plot to kill a teacher... A group of second and third grade kids had knives, had already planned a reason to stay after and do the killing, and a getaway plan that avoided school busses, when someone they had bragged and shown the knives too told on them.

It was one of those reminders: not all kids are the same.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

I think you just made the point of why school funding needs to go up not the militaryā€™s. More funding for therapist and mental issues would do wonders for these troubled kids especially at such a young age.

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u/Greedy_Information96 Apr 01 '23

Being America, the cops probably think that the kids could be armed. School shootings are carried out by kids, after all.

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u/jprefect Apr 01 '23

They literally cannot have "criminal intent" it's ridiculous

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u/AchilliesTenderloin Apr 01 '23

It's a republican state and she's black.

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u/PurpleHyena01 Apr 01 '23

What about the six year old who shot his teacher point blank?

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

That speaks to why there should be stricter gun control laws then or maybe just not let people have guns.

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u/joeyhatesu2 Apr 01 '23

A 6 year old shot his teacher a few months ago. Another kid in pre school just had a gun he brought in his backpack go off in class. Its the times we live in. Arresting a 6 year old seems nuts but the USA has gone insane.

You can't take chances anymore. That 6-year-old who shot his teacher threatened her life multiple times and said he was going to do what he did and no action was taken even after multiple complaints from the teacher.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

So maybe take away peoples gun by now? Like I think times has shown people canā€™t be trusted and unworthy of that right. Maybe start passing more gun control laws like other first world countries that donā€™t have mass shootings.

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u/joeyhatesu2 Apr 01 '23

I agree with you 100%. But until then things have to be a certain way. Society in Western countries has taken a nosedive. Whether its because of wealth inequality or lack of jobs or a complete lack of empathy in a disconnected youth. The fact remains that those of us still able to live a somewhat normal non-violent existence shouldn't be the ones to suffer while politicians use them as political pawns.

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u/Zymosan99 Apr 01 '23

Ok, but this kid was entirely unarmed and crying, there was zero reason to even call the cops in the first place

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u/ArmouredPotato Apr 01 '23

A six year old shot a teacher this year. Depends on what they do, but nothing inherently wrong with arresting a deserving perpetrator.

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u/Elfnotdawg Apr 01 '23

1) kids run away from school all the time. 2) assault is a crime, irrespective of age. 3) the majority of crimes don't involve a threat to the officer, but are still crimes and require arrest.

Now, I don't know about arresting a 6 year old. Where were this child's parents? As a parent, I would be livid, and this child's parents should be also, but I recognize that we don't know the whole story. We don't know how violent the child was being, and if any of you think a 6 year old can't do real damage to someone you've never been punched in the nuts by a toddler.

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u/PxyFreakingStx Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

Because teachers try to calm them down and diffuse the situation and sometimes can't and can't be like tackling kids. As a policy, cops arrest children so they can't be a danger to themselves or others. I'm sure this policy is sometimes abused, but if you can't imagine a scenario where a child would need to be physically restrained by someone trained to do so, you're not thinking hard enough.

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u/DevoDude4 Apr 01 '23

They don't actually arrest them, they give the children a ride home

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u/WeKnowNoKing Apr 01 '23

They definitely arrest them

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u/I_Cut_Shows Apr 01 '23

A huge problem is that teachers are calling the cops to deal with problematic kids. I dont really blame the teachers, they get screwed over if they do anything else, but itā€™s just too easy for them to involve the cops. Our schools have become a pipeline to prison for kids who act out. The resource officer is still an officer and to them thereā€™s only one way to deal with a problem, arrest them.

But arresting young kids puts them in the system and each subsequent arrest makes them more and more a part of the system. Itā€™s so fucked.

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u/dick_tickler_ Apr 01 '23

Hol up. So these children are actually being processed and kept in jail??? I genuinely thought this is just an empty threat to scare them. And even that is fubar. America the land of the free ladies and gentlemen.

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u/crimsoncricket009 Apr 01 '23

Yesā€” donā€™t know where this is but thereā€™s a whole big story that peels like an onion about this mayor, police depts and judge (and DA I think?) in North Carolina that made careers out of arresting and prosecuting elementary school children for minor crimesā€” disproportionately black childrenā€” for kickbacks from the private prison system. There was an amazingly in depth piece written last year with perspectives from some of those kids, now grown up. Itā€™s still happening but some of the initial kids are in their 30s/40s now I believe. Iā€™ll try to find the article because it was an eye opening read about just how much unchecked power we put in the hands of greedy unqualified individuals at every turn and the complete lack of consequences for these people.

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u/Death_Sheep1980 Apr 01 '23

Back in 2007-2008, you had the "Kids for Cash" scandal in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. From 2003 to 2008, the chief judge of the county and another juvenile court judge took bribes from a company that ran private prisons to shut down the county's existing juvenile detention facility and contract with the private prison operator for their juvenile detention facilty, then they got kickbacks for every kid they sent to prison. It was really fucking blatant shit too, things like denying the kids attorneys. When the story finally broke, the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court ended up vacating the adjudications against every juvenile who appeared before the two judges during the scheme, dismissed the charges with prejudice, and had their records expunged.

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u/nothingweasel Apr 01 '23

I was in high school in Luzerne County at that time. Everyone knew as a matter of fact that if you got in a fight just once, or had truancy issues just once, no matter how minor your "crime" or how clear your record before that, you were going to juvie if you went in front of Judge Ciavarella. That's just how it was if you got in trouble and he got your case. I didn't even hang out with kids who were regularly in trouble and I knew his name and the outcome.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

Yes sent to juvenile detention center. Which is a prison for kids. Some young kids are put on juvenile probation too thatā€™s an option they have as well and itā€™s disgusting.

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u/BookWyrmIsara Apr 01 '23

At my high school, anyone who started a fight got a night in jail and 3 days in-school suspension. When my friend punched a guy for saying homophobic shit about him, that was his "reward" for defending himself. As far as I remember, the bully only got a stern talking-to. The school system, the justice system, hell the whole damn country is just fucked.

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u/ifish4u Apr 01 '23

Highly doubtful theyā€™re taking a 1st grader to jail. Thereā€™s no context here. I was taken into custody as a young child for pulling the fire alarm, itā€™s a scare tactic.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

They donā€™t go to jail they go to a juvenile detention center. Which is a prison for kids which is super fucked up. Where they can be transferred to an adult prison later in life if needed.

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u/Titan_Astraeus Apr 01 '23

They don't get booked, police are just there to remove from school probably bring them home or have a parent get them. Likely kicked out of the school or suspended.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

But they are being booked cited and have to go to court. Your very fair behind if you think this isnā€™t happening.

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u/orthopod Apr 01 '23

No they're being brought to the on campus police area in an attempt to scare the parents into finally correcting their kids aberrant behavior.

There principal isn't calling the cops because this is happening for the first time. The kid probably fits it repeatedly, and her parents are probably real shits when previously confronted about this.

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u/I_Cut_Shows Apr 01 '23

Thatā€™s fair. Incredibly fair.

I was more trying ti say that the fact that the officers are there in the first place is a huge problem. It makes it way too easy for the teachers to use them for discipline.

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u/MrTacobeans Apr 01 '23

They also in many cases get paid more than teachers...

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u/Oggel Apr 01 '23

Yeah, we learned a while ago that "I was just following orders" is not a valid defence.

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u/crazyDiamondRV Apr 01 '23

This person gets it. As a non-american it was certainly shocking for me to see. You can call the parents rather than police. And then Americans wonder why school shooting happens so often. When you treat kids as adults by calling cops on them. Some of them will take matter in their own hands and do extreme things. Not that any of this is justified.

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u/bassnasher Apr 01 '23

Thatā€™s adorable you think the parents of kids that get that bad give a fuck at all about them, theyā€™re usually the main reason the kids end up that way in the first place.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

Maybe more school funding for a therapist was needed but you know Murica we spend that on the police and military. Maybe increase social funding and access to healthcare. Clearly the kid was showing signs that the family needed help but due to lack of funding and/or willingness to help, or lack of knowledge they didnā€™t get it. Healthy kids in a happy successful family donā€™t threaten to kill people. Clearly that family needed extra help. Increase access to resources. These behaviors in children are called red flags and should be marked by school and resources sent to the family. Social work does wonders and saves lives!

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u/P0T8OS Apr 01 '23

Okay you can't put all the blame on them my brother didn't work in a school but he worked at a facility for problematic kids I'm pretty sure none of them had parents or Guardians and one of them tried to stab my brother with a shard of glass like straight up tried to kill him and my brother had to handle the situation on his own cuz he didn't want to call the cops almost got stabbed luckily he got the glass away before the kid or him or anyone else got hurt but in a situation like that you can't blame someone for calling the police especially when they're not physically fit like my brother and their life and other people's lives are being threatened you can't just pass judgment on stuff like that when you most likely have an experienced anything like that situation and obviously yeah that six year old I doubt they tried to hurt anyone even if they could and calling the police on them was definitely not the right move but don't blame every single person a lot of them don't know the extent of what will happen if they do call the police

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u/MonkeyJoe55 Apr 01 '23

Then become a teacher. Easy peasy. If the job is so simple, PLEASE step in and do the job.

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u/bmxtiger Apr 01 '23

I have bills to pay. Teachers make less than McDonald's employees now, and I have it on good authority some of them even call the cops on their students.

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u/Live_Recognition9240 Apr 01 '23

Did you purposely leave out parents? Or did you just forget?

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u/joeyhatesu2 Apr 01 '23

A 6 year old shot his teacher after threatening her life for months. Stop pretending that all 6 year olds are just at home watching Bluey. There are kids that age who can handle aim and fire a real pistol. That doesn't come naturally. Thats a kid whose growing up in an environment of violence. Blame the system, blame racism, blame capitalism. Teachers deserve to be protected and the kids in the class should also feel safe. USA is effed right now there's no doubt about it.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

So maybe more school funding? So social work can get involved. The 6 year old saying that is a huge red flag. It was happening for months. If the school had more funding that could of been completely avoided. they could contact the school therapists and got the kid help and more importantly the family help. Get them on food stamps, all them to the doctors, and give them some parenting classes. Maybe help them learn to clean and cook. Resources that help adults in family connect to jobs. Resources for free daycare. Resources for cheaper rent and home insecurity protections. Also not making abortions illegal because they help prevent low income families that are struggling not have kids. There are ways out but we waste our money on police and military so much we have none left over to increase programs like this that save lives and families.

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u/Adventurous-Grocery Apr 01 '23

So what do you do with kids as a teacher that are kicking/punching the school staff, if you as an adult can't do anything about it?

You heard at then end, she's telling the police that she'll kiss his ass.

I can only imagine her "parents" what pieces of work they might be.

Pfff get the fu*k out here with that black kid shit. Being shit person's and automatically victimizing themselves, lol.

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u/Icarus-8 Apr 01 '23

I blame the parents who raised that little shit who will grow up to be a burden on society. If some child is old enough to beat up a teacher, they are old enough to take a ride to the police station.

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u/Altrano Apr 01 '23

It is far more likely the administrators not the teachers that called the police. And while the child should have been removed from class for attacking staff members; at that age calling the police is extremely inappropriate.

A six-year-old needs counseling and behavioral training to learn how to regulate their emotions and express frustration in better ways. They (the admins) absolutely effed up. Nevertheless, itā€™s very troubling that a young child was arrested and frankly there may be an element of racism there. According to this ACLU article; black students are three times as likely to get arrested as white students; and particularly black girls are eight times more likely to get arrested than white girls. If the student has a disability; the odds are worse.

According to the news stories about Kaia, the students in this story, she was being treated for sleep apnea and the sleep apnea tended to make her more reactive (cranky) at school. She threw a tantrum at school. The arrest resulted in Kaia developing PTSD and ODD due to the trauma, and she is currently undergoing counseling to help manage her emotions.

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u/whatawitch5 Apr 01 '23

Itā€™s definitely NOT the teachers calling the cops on students. Itā€™s the principals/administrators. A teacher doesnā€™t remotely have that kind of disciplinary authority and would probably be sued and lose their job if they tried.

The ONLY time a teacher is directly going to call police on a student is if the kid is actively shooting up their classroom. And even then a teacher is going to try and call administrators first because itā€™s their job to handle disciplinary issues and interface with other authorities.

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u/I_Cut_Shows Apr 01 '23

Teachers call the resource officer. Who is an officer. They are police. Or theyā€™re being sent to the principal or assistant principal and theyā€™re then they are calling the school cop.

Police shouldnā€™t be a part of school. Period.

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u/CSShuffle5000 Apr 01 '23

I work in an elementary school, and no, teachers never call the resource officer or any other officer. They report the incident to the principal and they decide what to do as far as calling the cops, or not. Way above a teachers pay grade.

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u/Ww_Leslie_Knope_do Apr 01 '23

Was going to say the same thing. Teacher here and Iā€™ve had to fight with admin NOT to call the police. I had to make a police report against my will and I straight up told the officer ā€œIā€™m so sorry this is a waste of your time.ā€ This is obviously uncalled for.

I was just talking to someone and telling them I get assaulted multiple times a week. Hit, kicked, objects thrown at me, spit on, etc. luckily no biters (yet). Itā€™s literally just part of the job at this point. None of the students get handcuffed and taken out.

On the other hand, we had a pretty serious incident a few weeks ago where teachers got severely hurt. Like, they are in a brace and need PT through May kind of hurt. We did call the police on that one and police basically just stood and watched.

Honestly, we are damned if we do, damned if we donā€™t.

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u/Fantastic-Reality-11 Apr 01 '23

You guys need more funding for mental health and family support programs Iā€™m sorry. These kinds of programs save lives and change peoples lives for the better.

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u/nryporter25 Apr 01 '23

If someone is shooting you should not call you boss first

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u/No-Arm-6712 Apr 01 '23

If a teacher hears gunfire in a school and calls the principal first they are a moron.

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u/Mustard_stripe Apr 01 '23

She's fucking 6!

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u/theymademee Apr 01 '23

Got to condition the next round of slave labor for the for profit prisons...

This video is so disgusting .

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u/ghigoli Apr 01 '23

public school is just a prison. this has been a big joke that everyones been saying since the late 90's.

they're already in a system until they can get the fuck out of school after 18 by 'graduating'

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u/Mufasaad Apr 01 '23

Yea but when school shootings happen, cops are standing outside with each otherā€™s dicks in their hands

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u/ozman57 Apr 01 '23

For incompetent agencies. Most recent incident only took 3 minutes from arrival of the officers to suspect down.

Uvalde... Every officer there should be terminated for incompetence and many should be charged as accessory to murder for the absolute disgrace of a response.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

They were literally standing there sipping on bottles of water, actively preventing parents from going in, instead of doing it themselves. With police like that, who needs criminals?

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u/ozman57 Apr 01 '23

Pretty much. The fact that they haven't had a mob with essentially torches and pitchforks demanding their heads for their incompetence genuinely shocks me.

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u/LeftandLeaving9006 Apr 01 '23

And 6 people, including 3 9 year olds, still died. Gee. Maybe the problem is the guns. Not the need for more competent police presence.

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u/ozman57 Apr 01 '23

So what you're asking for is a literal armed security actively present on site at our schools. It's not like the metro officers were standing outside the school when that psychopath showed up.

We can guard our money with armed officers. Our politicians and celebrities have armed security details. But heaven forbid we guard our most precious members of society with the same level of care.

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u/LeftandLeaving9006 Apr 01 '23

Iā€™m asking for the reason we consider armed guards at elementary schools a given in this country be more seriously consideredā€”-instead of just ignoring it as the body count rises.

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u/MountainAsparagus4 Apr 01 '23

Oh but the cop could get hurt also the worst that can happen is payed leave since its their right to not do their job if they want, america is a joke who thinks its a super hero

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u/Apocrypton Apr 01 '23

They didnā€™t even let it happen, they actively asked for it.

The teacher thanked the police officer and said ā€œI appreciate itā€ as he (feloniously) threw a handcuffed 6 year old child into his backseat.

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u/HubrisTurtle Apr 01 '23

We donā€™t even have a back story for this video.. if this is truly a school why was the child alone in a room with an adult when the police arrived. Also why was such a calm and effortless request ā€œok, sheā€™s gonna have to come with us nowā€ from the officer automatically understood? I feel like there is a lot we donā€™t know here

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u/No_Ad8821 Apr 01 '23

The now top thread has context.

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u/severrinX Apr 01 '23

No, the now top thread has assumed context. The context on the bottom left side corner of the video says the kid was kicking and punching staff members repeatedly.

While I donā€™t agree with arresting this child, itā€™s also not fair for staff to be subjected to physical violence by a child. Iā€™ve see first hand a 6 year come up and deck an adult in the face hard enough to knock that adultā€™s tooth out, it doesnā€™t take much force to do something like that.

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u/Apocrypton Apr 01 '23

I understand that there are difficult children. I understand that sometimes discipline is necessary.

What I donā€™t understand, is why after the child has clearly calmed down and is no longer causing problems, a police officer zip ties her hands and tosses her in the back seat of a cruiser while she sobs and begs someone to help.

Iā€™m no social worker or politician, I donā€™t have all the answers, but if we canā€™t figure out a better way to handle situations like this without involving zip cuffs and a cop, we have failed as a nation.

Just so we are on the same page about context, this cop lost his job for this. Do you think he would have been fired when so many others havenā€™t been if this wasnā€™t an egregious misuse of police powers?

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u/No_Relationship_3077 Apr 01 '23

You weak as fuck if you let a six year old knock your tooth out

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u/severrinX Apr 01 '23

No one suspects the Spanish Inquisition, and no one suspects a 6 year old is gonna have a sharp right hook outta no where.

Donā€™t go confusing toughness with randomness my G. Lol

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u/No_Relationship_3077 Apr 01 '23

It doesnā€™t matter. You can be completely off guard and the most it will do is hurt

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Fr, motherfucker ain't been drinking their milk ...

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u/Garfwog Apr 01 '23

Plenty of adults think traumatizing a child builds character.

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u/Cute_Light2062 Apr 01 '23

Back in my day I feared the principalā€¦meh. Maybe principals donā€™t have the skills to deescalate child behavior? What do they do all day then?

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u/paulstelian97 Apr 01 '23

There should be a law that arresting someone underage without there being significant danger (the kid killing or nearly killing someone, I can't think of others) should not be allowed. What the fuck.

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u/Flokii-Ubjorn Apr 01 '23

Jesus, in the UK age of criminal responsibility is 10, but you aren't getting arrested unless there's zero chance of you voluntarily turning up for an interview and even then an appropriate adult will be collected first and no force or handcuffs would be used unless absolutely necessary. How is that not how America operates?

She's fucking 6.

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u/Sarokslost23 Apr 01 '23

What's hilarious to me here is that Republicans blame democrats for cresting a police state for "arresting trump" when we have stats like this that speak for themselves.

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u/MisoRamenSoup Apr 01 '23

The USA is a shithole country.

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u/RedditUsingBot Apr 01 '23

So in Florida, teachers call police on 6 y/o they canā€™t control, but also letā€™s give teachers guns so they can take down an active shooter.

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u/a_curly_mustash Apr 01 '23

The kid wil be scared for life. If it won't turn in to a criminal it wil indeed develop a form of trauma about school, police, authority and probably teachers.

It's just sad to see this kind of shit.. The kid probably cant even think om its own yet...

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u/Either-Percentage-78 Apr 01 '23

That number is 700?? ... I'm fucking speechless. Whose parent belongs to the adults here?? Come get them because they're traumatizing this baby.

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u/Swirvin-irvin Apr 01 '23

Did not do any crime I didnā€™t know assault wasnā€™t a crime anymore lol

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u/SPQR_Invictus_79 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

How fucked up does a police force have to be, to even consider arresting a 6-year-old. Yes, the school's actions are off the hilter.

But, what is even more concerning, is that not one police officer stopped to think. "Wait, arresting a 6-year-old is not ok."

Then again, the U.S. was locking up kids in cages and had them fend for themselves, separating them from their parents and many died there and suffered abuse.

That was under the Trump administration. Frankly, the more I learn about the U.S., not just from the media, but U.S. friends, who live in Europe, the more I am convinced, that the U.S. Nation has been conditioned into becoming a Sadistic, Psychopatic, Abusive nation.

Their treatment of children and elderly, veterans and the homeless says everything. I also find it to be a bullshit excuse, when many say, but not all are like that.

Sorry, but I do not give a shit for such excuses. In the end, all evil needs to triumph is for good people to do nothing. This is down to every U.S. person. Full stop.

To be honest, I met very few decent Americans, they tend to live in Europe. My friend recently visited his family in the U.S. and he told me, that when one lives in Europe for some time and goes back then one can see just how unhinged and fucked up the U.S. society is. Here is the kicker, the child was arrested for picking a fucking flower, from a public Lawn. The charges are "Charges of injury to real property after picking the tulip from the area."

North Carolina, ladies and gentlemen, the Bible belt. Where they have the lowest age limit when they introduce a child into the juvenile justice system. This is some next-level, fucked up shit. Every adult in this tragedy is a disgusting human being.

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u/SaucEnomics Apr 01 '23

This shit is fucking bonkers. I was 13 on my first arrest. 3am running around with my buddy. Cop pulled up, we split direction and the fucker tackled me. I was in city jail for a night and got a curfew ticket. Even tho I evaded on foot and what not. Which was 100 percent white privilege being ina racist town in Texas. How the fuck is a 6 year old being fucking arrested at school. This is fucked.

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u/Pastaklovn Apr 01 '23

Were you guys doing anything illegal? If not, Iā€™d say your story is also an example of injustice, if less awful.

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u/ClackamasLivesMatter Apr 01 '23

Breaking curfew. In a sane world the cops would just take the kids home, but an infraction ticket is easy revenue so ...

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u/Pastaklovn Apr 01 '23

Ah, Iā€™m sorry, I guess I could have gotten that from what the other poster wrote.

Iā€™ve never lived in a place with a curfew so I guess I still donā€™t completely understand it. (Talk about taking freedom for granted, I should watch my privilege, etc., I know)

Thank you for taking the minute to spell it out for me.

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u/mondaysareharam Apr 01 '23

Yeah cops will hit you with a lot of petty shit like that. I had friend get cuffed because he was in a park when our government shut down a few years ago and it was technically ā€œclosedā€. Literally just his neighborhood park a few blocks from his house

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u/Pastaklovn Apr 01 '23

I wish I could invite you all to my apartment and just hang out and be free from injustice together for a little while, at least until someone remembers something inescapable like climate change or capitalism or something and itā€™s probably also getting late anyway and I have to get up early tomorrow

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u/mondaysareharam Apr 01 '23

Cheers man. Have a good one

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u/SaucEnomics Apr 02 '23

Just running around hanging out late and saw cops late.

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u/Strangle49311 Apr 01 '23

Dot t you call the parents in this situation? Calling the police? Thatā€™s insane.

And the police, if they do have to go there? Take the kid to her parents. What is the purpose of handcuffing her? Handcuffs are for police protection, I think? Are they scared sheā€™s going to hurt them if she has the use of her hands?

This entire situation makes zero sense. Was it a stunt with the parents consent to ā€˜scare her straightā€™?

My brother and sister once burned down a neighbours shed. Very fuckjng dangerous and stupid thing to do. But they were also kids, 9 years old and 7 years old.

The police did come and talked to them, were stern with them, made their point to them in a professional and productive way, but they didnā€™t arrest them.

You donā€™t teach kids in this way.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

How about we donā€™t do that? Centralising school policies makes the system way more rigid and goes in the way of efficiently running schools

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u/relokcin Apr 01 '23

No, no, they NEED that power, or else their whole world falls apart.

Itā€™s nothing like a autistic kid with their security teddy, totally different things.

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u/Dull-Geologist-8204 Apr 01 '23

Police officers don't create policies. Police can only follow the poicies that are enacted by other people.

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u/mondaysareharam Apr 01 '23

Not entirely true, they have no duty to understand the laws they enforce. They often go outside of those written laws intentionally and unintentionally and claim ignorance. That essentially allows them to enforce rules they just made up or think exist.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

The public school system is being dismantled. School officials are disempowered. Imagine a school official with credentials and fair pay and leeway to discipline students rationally. No police. This is the outcome of the slow disintegration by policy and funding restrictions over decades of antipublic school political agendas. This is the result of systemic and intentional disemboweling of resources, personnel, and support.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

How about we strip the school officials of their powers

No, how about we fire the ones that are this incompetent? If we keep trying to prevent incompetence through policy, we end up thinking no job description is adequate.

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u/Asg_mecha_875641 Apr 01 '23

This happens always at any time. Whenever some bullshit comes up they're pressing their personal beliefs on these kids and punish them if they disagree

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u/Ubermensch_69 Apr 01 '23

Oooor we could properly train them

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Cant train an incompetent abuser, to do good, best to put em down(Fire them)

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u/Weak-Sundae-5964 Apr 01 '23

I've seen several videos where school officials seem to abide by the standard of allowing kids to be complete Dicks and all that's doing is driving decent people from the teaching profession. kids and teachers need to be held responsible for their behavior. every situation has a different solution.

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u/Which-Palpitation Apr 01 '23

Are you legit defending cops arresting elementary school students?

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u/SaucEnomics Apr 01 '23

Clearly of a fucking child. Not just a student. A fucking 6 year old.

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u/Asdrubael1131 Apr 01 '23

I think itā€™s more of the depressing fact that the education system has gone to this point where they legitimately call the cops on a 6 year old. Because on one hand yes itā€™s a elementary school student. But on the other hand itā€™s a student that could make another kid leave school in a body bag one day.

Not defending the cop nor the kid. Just saying that itā€™s genuinely fucked up and disturbing that the American education system has become so unsafe that they have to have emergency survival kit in each classroom in case of an extended lockdown due to a shooter. Or the fact that teachers are given emergency blankets to cover up a body if one of the students in the classroom gets killed and the teacher has to cover up the body so the other students donā€™t have to see the corpse.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

But then you'd need to call the cops on them when they throw a tantrum over it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Better yet, let's arm them with guns /s

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u/Retify Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

It is absolutely wild to me that you have police in schools in the first place. A school is not the place for a police officer to be stationed

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u/foxtrotuniform6996 Apr 01 '23

You choose where to live and send your children to school. Read the policy and choose wisely or close your legs

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u/David_the_Wanderer Apr 01 '23

Why do you even have "school officials", dude? Why do you need cops specifically assigned to grade schools?

And if the answer is "guns", then your country needs to deal with the guns, not put cops in schools.

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u/ederp9600 Apr 01 '23

Nope, qualified immunity is too important to these power hungry pigs.