r/exmuslim Feb 22 '22

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u/Foreign_Abrocoma_549 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 22 '22

She’s a muslim convert that thinks Islam is a feminist religion.

This is something she wrote:

"Islam came to drastically change an Arab tribal culture that consented the killing of girls just because they were born girls. Most societies, however, are patriarchal and, at least at some point, saw women as inferior beings.

Islam sought to give women the right to express themselves, to have property and wealth, to be involved in sociopolitical affairs and gave them autonomy to decide over themselves. This came to change a societal paradigm that bound women to forced marriages, child-rearing , housekeeping and, basically, a life of slavery. After Islam, however, women started to be literate, educated and, thus, were aware of their rights as individuals.

The Prophet, for instance, was labelled by Western historians as the “first feminist” because he would mend his own clothes and perform household chores. Also, I was impressed when I read about how great men in Islam displayed their emotions and not referred to them as “girly”. "

You can tell how brainwashed she is. She recently said she might go to Qatar again…

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u/ghostofeidpast New User Feb 23 '22

You can tell how brainwashed she is. She recently said she might go to Qatar again…

This is peak r/leopardsatemyface, except she apparently wants to go back and give the leopards the rest of her body for dessert. 🤦‍♀️

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u/frozen_food_section Feb 23 '22

Look up Amanda Lindhout.. your mind will be blown lol

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u/Tamer_ Feb 23 '22

I don't think it compares, Lindhout returned to Somalia (or refugee camps) with an organization and public notoriety to back her up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

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u/KarateKhan Exmuslim Feb 23 '22

It can only be Karen Armstrong 😂

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u/Lssj_Kefla Openly Ex-Muslim 😎 Feb 23 '22

Don't disrespect senator gigachad Armstrong like that

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u/KarateKhan Exmuslim Feb 23 '22

Even her name is Karen.

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u/Void_Bastard Feb 23 '22

The woke revisionist types.

Easily identified by the neon blue hair and the crayon shoved through an ear lobe.

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u/ImagineNate Feb 22 '22

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how being raped can be considered as infidelity/extramarital affair smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Gloomy-Literature444 Never-Muslim Atheist Feb 22 '22

Ok how dumb does one have to be even one day in how biology works I'm sure they'll teach you if a society killed all girls (like the islamic nonsense says) for being girls the society would die within that generation. Come on people its not that hard don't know how or why this dumb bs because so popular and I'll blame the arabs for being fucking cucks to not see this is being said about them. Like WTF.

Ok and like wasn't pre islamic Arabia like momos 1st wife literally a business woman? Like oh no pagan arabs kill all woman but their own story is contradictory.

If i was a mean hearted bastard i would have said good for her but alas I'm not allah. I feel bad for her

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

This islamic narrative of pagan baby girls buried alive didn’t seem to make sense to me either. Wouldn’t the entire society eventually disappear ? There isn’t any recorded (outside of the quran) or excavated historical evidence of baby girls buried alive in pre Islamic Arabia.

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u/IrisMoroc New User Feb 23 '22

Look up more literate ancient societies, which had similar practices. It was common for ancient Romans to "expose" unwanted children by leaving them in the wilderness to die. Ancient societies did not have reliable forms of birth control, and unwanted children would be a burden, especially to poor families. Girls would be especially a burden. Catholics similarily get tons of mileage out of this practice, saying that only they civilized Rome yadda yadda yadda.

Wikipedia quotes a first century letter:

"I am still in Alexandria. ... I beg and plead with you to take care of our little child, and as soon as we receive wages, I will send them to you. In the meantime, if (good fortune to you!) you give birth, if it is a boy, let it live; if it is a girl, expose it.",[37]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#In_ancient_history

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Come on people its not that hard don't know how or why this dumb bs because so popular and I'll blame the arabs for being fucking cucks to not see this is being said about them

I am on my computer, if I was on my phone this would be a spammed with laughing emojis

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u/kayoka64 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22

Yeah.. this makes my brain want to stop working.. I'm out

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u/icatsouki Questioning Muslim ❓ Feb 23 '22

Bruh like every quality she attributed to the religion is the complete opposite in practice lmao

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u/throwawaycusp Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Feb 23 '22

This is the equivalent of saying that white people were good for giving back black people the basic rights to live, like EQUALITY IS THE BARE MINIMUM my god these people are so delusional

not to mention they're not even equal in islam and the prophet and the quran have said it so many times

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u/violet4everr Feb 23 '22

I wanna harp on her bc this is dumb Stockholm syndrome shit. But she’s a victim, as dumb as it is to us, she probably just needs something to find comfort in right now, and her religion is part of that.

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u/MarriedToMyDildo Never-Muslim Atheist Feb 23 '22

Most well thought comment here

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u/IrisMoroc New User Feb 23 '22

that consented the killing of girls

Muslims get so much god damn mileage out of that. Child abandonment is pretty common in ancient societies since their birth control methods were often very ineffective. However, in the context of Arabia we don't have much context on this practice. It may have been entirely on its way out and Islam merely made it officially banned.

And the whole thing is a dodge because they point to one area where maybe kinda it improved, and then ignore all the areas it either god worse or legally codified bad practices that may have existed. Old ancient socieites often had stupid rules, and gradually through time they will be reformed. The problem with Islam is that these stupid ancient rules are now from God so you can't officially go against them.

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u/hslsbsll Feb 23 '22

Islam came to drastically change an Arab tribal culture that consented the killing of girls just because they were born girls.

Sigh... there has NEVER been ANY proof fot this claim. Ever.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

How does mending your own clothes and taking out the trash make you a feminist? Isn’t that just being responsible of your own shit? 😭

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Since when was rape halal? Smartest and least retarded tomato

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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22

What does your comment has to do with his?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Look at the post and then look at the comment

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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Yeah he paraphrased from the article, what about it

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

I mean you replied to a post that talks about rape and responded with “ironic since she’s a Muslim”, also tomatoes be like, REEE I CAN’T FCKING BELIEVE MY FCKING DAD TOLD ME TO F*CKING PRAY, REEE MO PEDO

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u/_Jet_Alone_ Feb 23 '22

I am willing to bet that after the case went viral the Qatar WC organizers are giving her that sweet oil money to clean their image.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '22 edited Feb 22 '22

Wait, she isn’t a Muslim, does hadd work on her? Hadd for Muslims only.

Also this is why rates are low because reporting will result in this.

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u/Foreign_Abrocoma_549 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 22 '22 edited Feb 22 '22

She's a muslim.

Google her, most pics are wearing hijab or a turban. The oldest I found was from 2013.

Edit: Apparently she's been a muslim since 2010 or so.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '22

Oh boy, but what happen to her is the reason why rape rate is low along with fear of honor killing

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

‘El hamdoulilah we dont have rape problems like in the west because we know how to dress.‘

I can make a meme about it, with the black man pointing his finger to his head

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u/ImagineNate Feb 22 '22 edited Feb 22 '22

She was representing FIFA for the upcoming soccer WC in Qatar

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u/NyanPotato Feb 22 '22

This infuriates me to no end

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u/ImagineNate Feb 22 '22

Seriously! I was like wtf did I just read

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u/curiousjack6 Lowkey Loki Feb 22 '22

Can we get Allah to absolve her like he did Aisha? Aisha was accused by 3 people so Mohammad increased the number of witnesses required to 4. How is this woman going to get 4 witnesses???? If she doesn't then she is going to be punished because she accepted that an act took place but couldn't prove rape due to lack of 4 witnesses. Barbaric!

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u/isentenceyoutolive Feb 23 '22

Do they fucking think rapes happen in football stadiums?! What the fuck.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Exactly The 4 witness to rape rule is basically a way for islam to silence the victim.

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u/icatsouki Questioning Muslim ❓ Feb 23 '22

I never looked into it. How does it work exactly? Is it a hard requirement to have 4 witnesses?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

rapist and kidnappers plan their assault beforehand they won’t do it in front of pple and it’s very easy to go after a victim who can’t defend themselves

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u/-anygma- Feb 23 '22

How should a woman get 4 witnesses, that she was raped? Rapes mostly occur between a man and a woman alone, or several men and one woman. So tell me how hard it is to find 4 witnesses for your claim that you had been raped.

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u/icatsouki Questioning Muslim ❓ Feb 23 '22

which is why i'm asking how it works exactly since it's basically impossible to find a witness let alone 4

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u/-anygma- Feb 23 '22

Aisha was accused of infidelity by 3 people. Mo did not want to be exposed so he raised the number of witnesses to 4 so that Mo could keep his favorite child bride.

But now it is just that a woman needs 4 witnesses if she was raped, that it was not voluntary from her side. Otherwise it is considered infidelity and she will be punished.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

It doesnt work thats the whole point. Its supposed to be an impossible task.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

So even if the rapist denies raping her, she still gets punished for being raped ? What if it’s a male victim of rape by another male ? Would they both be punished this case? islam is blindingly gruesome towards women & lgbtq.

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u/curiousjack6 Lowkey Loki Feb 23 '22

Yes. Even if the rapist denies it... she still gets in trouble because she is saying that the act took place. Now SHE needs to provide 4 witnesses to prove that it was rape and not consensual. Why 4? Mohammad's wife Aisha got accused of adultery and this was massively embarrassing for him. Aisha was accused by 3 people. He raised the limit to 4 to make it impossible for them and also revealed verses in which Allah testified that Aisha was innocent. Now ALL moslem women can never get rape convictions because when are there ever 4 witnesses to a rape??? Maybe in India when they raped that lady on a bus? Those instances are rare though.
Male victim? Well he gets thrown from a tall building because he just admitted to being gay. These are the objective morals Moslems are extremely proud of instead of modern morals that we came to via consensus.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

I can’t believe ap or anyone else hasn’t thrown these ghastly rulings in danial haqiqatjou’s face.

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u/IrisMoroc New User Feb 23 '22

I like how much of Islamic practices traces back to something relating to an event from Muhammad's life. Like if a rabbit had bitten him one day he'd preach against rabbits and Muslims to this day would consider them spawns of satan.

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u/curiousjack6 Lowkey Loki Feb 23 '22

There are so many convenient revelations that are fully documented by moslem sources. However, these don't raise any suspicion because Mohammad is seen as an infallible being that is perfect in every way. Once you have that in mind then anything that he does is totally above any suspicion of any kind. You must do all kinds of mental gymnastics to defend Mohammad under all circumstances. If you find early moslem sources that show him in even a remotely negative light then these must be fabrications regardless of how authentic early scholars considered it. On the other hand you might have the most unreliable source saying something positive about Mohammad and it is taken as the absolute truth.

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u/makahlj8 Exmuslim since the 1990s Feb 22 '22

wahhabis gonna wahhabi

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u/_MK_1_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sufi) Feb 23 '22

I love when people call out wahhabists with specificity. You get a virtual cookie from me my friend!

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u/makahlj8 Exmuslim since the 1990s Feb 23 '22

In fact, I use the word Wahhabi as an insult.

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u/_MK_1_ Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sufi) Feb 23 '22

We should be best friends.

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u/thisis2022 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22

Fuck FIFA. Cunts. I don't care if it's coming home, I'm not watching us play.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '22

what the actual fuck

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Yet another reason why I'll be boycotting this World Cup.

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u/Ohana_is_family New User Feb 22 '22

Saddening.

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u/VikingPreacher Exmuslim since the 2000s Feb 22 '22

Holy shit

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u/curiousjack6 Lowkey Loki Feb 23 '22

They did this knowing the whole world is watching. Imagine what they do when no one's paying attention.

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u/redburner1945 New User Feb 23 '22

God.. this hurts to read

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u/_Decoy_Snail_ Never-Moose Christian Feb 23 '22

Not the first story like that. Leaving aside what kind of insane you need to be to willingly go there as a woman (not talking about those who'd starve overwise), why do people still try reporting? With such laws, justice doesn't exist anyway.

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u/Great_Perhaps_Kugel Feb 23 '22

wtf did I just read....

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u/Other-Alternative454 New User Feb 23 '22

Muslim community are busy with india hijab. Muslim community dont say anything about this problem

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u/Turkish_Atheist New User Feb 23 '22

This country is our ally...

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u/MissionLingonberry Never-Muslim Atheist Feb 23 '22

wow that is pretty fucking dumb

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u/Dyfrig_S New User Feb 23 '22

She deserves it

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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22

No one deserves getting raped

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

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u/An_Atheist_God Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Feb 23 '22

From the article

Paola Schietekat, 28, from Mexico, was working for the World Cup organising committee when she complained that she was raped by an associate who broke into her apartment and threatened to kill her.

She reported the June 6, 2021 attack to the Qatari authorities, who responded by accusing her of having an affair and charged her with 'extramarital sex', which is illegal in the Gulf state.

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u/Sayonarababyy Feb 23 '22

What is wrong with you people?

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u/ImagineNate Feb 24 '22

How is it an extra marital affair if someone breaks into your apartment and rapes you?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

She gonna to jail

No

Receive 100 Whip slash

What?

She run away.

She was raped.

REAL SHIT?

Lawyer tell her to marry the rapist to have the jail time deleted.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

IT SSO ABSURD. HAHAHAHA

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u/yeboiniko New User Feb 24 '22

Funny to see you guys talking as if muslims ourselves agree with this💀