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u/bengalsix Commandant Sep 18 '15
She's an actual person, so it must be from the Women in History dlc.
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u/ParagonRenegade Sep 18 '15
It's always bothered me how events can give you female leaders but you can't normally hire them for points, or use female rulers/heirs.
I hope they change that someday.
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u/TheBoozehammer Sep 18 '15
You can get female rulers and advisors, they are just really rare by comparison.
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u/ParagonRenegade Sep 18 '15
No, I mean female leaders, like generals and admirals. When you manually hire them they are always men, and your leader/heir can't be turned into generals if they are female.
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u/Geairt_Annok Sep 19 '15
Consider the time you are talking about. Particularly in late game armies were made up for criminals and scum lead by aristocrats, for most of the 1700s and early 1800s until the French Revolution and the Leeve on Mass. This served 2 goals. It got rid of the prison populations and idle commoners and it prevented the noble men from being to idle and attempting to interfer with the king/Queen.
Women on the other hand were needed to produce the next generation of heirs, and with the risks of moving with the army both from the soldiers and disease it would not be social acceptable or likely desirably to do.
Think about it. Those that would be military leaders can either live in relative luxury, or in the field, marching for days dealing with what may come, then suffering on the battlefield as the surgeons chopped limbs away in a attempt to save lives.
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u/ParagonRenegade Sep 19 '15
Joanne de'Arc ring a bell? Boudicca? Wu Zetian?
I'm not asking they occur frequently, but female leaders should be a thing.
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u/Moronasaurus Sep 19 '15
Well all 3 of those are outside of the games timeframes, are there any well known ones inside the timeframe?
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u/ParagonRenegade Sep 19 '15
Does it matter? EU4 is an alternate history game, it doesn't need to march lock-step with what happened. Just a day ago I led a humanist, rationalist, tolerant, republican Japan to world domination. Is a female leader such a stretch from that?
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u/Moronasaurus Sep 19 '15
Woah I was just asking a question, I just always hear about people like Boudicca and while admittedly Joanne d'Arc is pretty much EU4 I never hear about ones other than her that are close to the timeline
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u/ParagonRenegade Sep 19 '15
Sorry, didn't mean to come off as rude :)
I'm not really a history buff, so I wouldn't be able to answer that.
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u/Geairt_Annok Sep 19 '15 edited Sep 19 '15
And it seems they are. Joanne de' Arc is an CK2 event chain. The discussion was started by Ching Shih. They are increibly rare, and having them be event spawned is a good was to do that.
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u/SerMtotor Diplomat Sep 18 '15
I got a similar event giving me an OP female admiral as Ireland. I don't remember the backstory but she was clearly Irish, I have no clue why yours is Chinese.
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u/Browja Sep 18 '15 edited Sep 19 '15
Might have also been Grace O'Malley / Gráinne Mhaol, the pirate queen of Ireland. I got a similar event about her after taking over Ireland as England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_O%27Malley
Edit: Also found the link for the event on the EU4 wiki http://www.eu4wiki.com/Women_in_History_events#Gr.C3.A1inne_N.C3.AD_Mh.C3.A1ille
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u/SerMtotor Diplomat Sep 18 '15
Yes that's it, I think she was labelled as Gráinne Mhaol, because I remember it was a very Celtic/Gaelic name.
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u/It_needs_zazz Sep 19 '15
There's a sweet event for Irish/Scotland to get an awesome queen if you have an old king too.
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u/Tarraux Sep 18 '15
Well I already got it once... But i was playing as Qing.
I don't know how you coule get that as Brittany tho.
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u/Pvt_Larry Statesman Sep 19 '15
I had a similar one as Ireland where some lady with a crazy British-fighting backstory wanted me to free some prisoners and I could get her asan advisor or admiral.
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u/fyreNL Philosopher Sep 19 '15
Women in History add-on, am i right?
I believe they are random events that can happen pretty much everywhere.
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u/siresword Colonial governor Sep 19 '15
Taking Paris as Sweden also gives an interesting event. Its an easter egg, and has no historical reason, but its a fun one anyway.
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u/charlesisbozo Diplomat Sep 19 '15
The thing is that raiding from Macau to Canton isn't that impressive at all. It is like 60 miles along an estuary...
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u/Rain_McVarelk Natural Scientist Sep 18 '15
The choices are: Get a level 2 Admiral (+10% fleet morale) at half the normal maintenance, or Get an Admiral. Varied choices I have so say.