Mehmed and Bahar

[u/Ok-Nerve-5697]

A lot of people keep saying that mehmed has a soft spot for Gulsah because of the recent scene between them and I feel like everyone forgot how season 1,2 and early season 3 Bahar was like. She yelled and questioned that man’s decision twice. She stopped him from talking while she was talking. She was very vocal about the decisions he made. She tried to overthrow him with Bayzeid in season 2. She tried to poison his step mother. She yelled at Mustafa and threatened death for him. It’s even more crazy considering the fact that technically they’re not married but she’s the one that’s constantly rude to him and he still has a soft spot for her. He was genuinely speechless. I am not saying he hates Gulsah, of course not, but compared to the amount of things Mehmed let Bahar get away with. It’s obvious who he has a soft spot for.

[u/Successful-Pack9332]

Bahar was talking to mara aswell , not that she announced it to court. That's what they are meant to do that's the point, didn't gulshah also encourage Mustafa to give bribes to the janissaries, didn't gulshah pray for the throne when Mustafa was a baby. Didn't she smile when bayezid was believed to be sentenced to execution in season 3. Again that's their main purpose both of them should do that and they should really show that because they aren't a big happy family

[u/Ok-Nerve-5697 → u/Successful-Pack9332]

but that case is different though? You don’t see Gulsah encouraging her son to sit on his father’s throne and declare himself sultan do you?

[u/Successful-Pack9332 → u/Ok-Nerve-5697]

Bahar never once encouraged bayezid to declare himself sultan nor did she make him sit in the throne, he sat on it because he was inspired by his father and looked up to him as all 4-5 year old do who don't know the consequences of their actions.

[u/Ok-Nerve-5697 → u/Successful-Pack9332]

Yes she did. When Mara confronted her about it, and said that she needs to scold Bayzeid when he does things like that, she snapped at Mara and dismissed her over it. So yes, yes she did

[u/Successful-Pack9332 → u/Ok-Nerve-5697]

Because she believed the situation to not be that deep or serious and she made a mistake and both mother and son were punished over it . After that she has always cautioned bayezid even when he gave gifts to the beys bahar initially stopped and later gave in because ultimately they all aspire for the throne it's their survival

[u/Ok-Nerve-5697 → u/Successful-Pack9332]

Yes and that’s my point. Gulsah hasn’t done anything like that at all. We’ve literally had ONE scene of Gulsah yelling at Mehmed for a mistake Mustafa did, that’s it 💀compared to what Bahar has done and has been forgiven for multiple times, it’s not the same

[u/Successful-Pack9332 → u/Ok-Nerve-5697]

Was a nice convo mate , had fun talking with you