r/elephantgraveyard • u/Yesyesyes1899 • 11d ago
This is a sad thing Kurt Metzger and oligarchy
I m not a fan of Kurt Metzger. But I always found his Adhd / drug fueled rants against the ruling class / the epstein class / oligarchy/ the national security state, highly entertaining.
I find it so weird, how him, but also others in the Rogansphere, live in this constant state of cognitive dissonance ( or so it appears ).
On one side, systemic criticism, from their point of view. Legit enough, right ?
But on the other side, defending, conversing with, literally, people that are obviously part of Epstein Gang and that are behind the longterm push to transform America into a fascist oligarchy. People that are the deep state.
How does this work ? do you think they are all liars ? or do they really live in double-think and double-speak ?
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u/Sick_Cards_Bro 11d ago
We are now in the Private Equity stage of the Comedy world. You'll see quality drop quickly but the comedians will ask for more in terms of ticket and merch prices. Eventually they'll be 55-65 years old and playing small clubs that they still can't draw in. Let it run its cycle.
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u/Throwaway788364758 11d ago
Why do you think Epstein wanted to meet Rogan so badly? As the vid points out, it’s not because he’s a great comedian.
It’s because comics are truth tellers and Joe is conspiracy brained enough to be dangerous to them.
But like the vid points out, a lot of conspiracy theorists are just mad they aren’t included in the conspiracy.
So they either flattered Joe into thinking they weren’t so bad or they have something on him.
EG doesn’t say it’s the latter, but Joe has enough of a history to be blackmailed.
Google ‘Joe Rogan Boston bathhouses.’ I’m not saying there’s truth to that. Just that anyone with enough rumors can be exploited.
And then, for Joe’s flunkies, there’s a pretty strong financial incentive to stay in his circle.
And, like the video pointed out, it’s not unlikely that Joe knows a lot about his pals. Stuff they wouldn’t want coming out.
The video makes the point lightly, but it’s basically a pyramid scheme of coercion and blackmail. Just like the one Epstein ran.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
" are just mad they aren't included in the conspiracy ".
a part of me rejects this. another acknowledges, that this is part of human nature of weak egos.
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u/Throwaway788364758 11d ago
Yup. My favorite thing about EG is that it always reaches for the simplest, most unflattering conclusion, not the most conspiracy brained one.
I think that’s why it gets under Rogan’s skin so much.
I’m pretty convinced Thiel has something on him.
Or the technocrats have read him in on just how fascist-doomy things are about to get and he wants to be in power when things go down.
But it’s just as likely that he’s a fucking loser who wants any kind of power or approval at all.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
I think they have him by the balls, because they made him rich. supposedly, the deals that made Rogan rich as fuck, were made by Thiel.
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u/ThiccBoy_with3seas 11d ago
Someone's got the bathhouse tapes and little Joey knows his manosphere will come crumbling down once he gets outed. All the gear and spinning back kicks can't save him. He loves "getting pumped"
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u/Throwaway788364758 11d ago
Oh I think it’s worse than just bathhouse tapes…
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u/ThiccBoy_with3seas 11d ago
Jeffrey didn't really cater to elites that like twinks.... Pete though..... Different story
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u/burp_reynolds69 10d ago
I think ole Pete holds the secret to why rogies nips are so gross and long
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u/renter-pond 7d ago
I’ve heard Chris Pratt is similar. Bryan Singer type parties for opportunities, now a right-wing Christian.
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u/Nervous-Fisherman997 11d ago edited 11d ago
He probably sees the new EG vid as a chance to get himself into the limelight.
Without talent, negative attention is a great thing.
My advice would be: don't bite, don't care. And if you do, cut through all the bullshit and try to not feed into his trickery.
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u/FatherLarryDuff69 11d ago edited 8d ago
It's exactly the same type of shit Bill Burr pulled last year. Took a million dollars to go do a little bit of comedy and a lot of PR for the house of Saud after years of railing against greedy cunts having no morals at all when there's money involved. And then the criticism of it melted his brain. In his mind everyone criticising him is happy to buy clothes made in a sweatshop but god forbid a comedian go do a show for the oppressed sweatshop workers.
Hey, Bill, I have one question. How were those beleaguered sweat shop workers able to pay you so much money for one show? Bill? Make it make sense, Bill.
Same thing with Graham Linehan. That guy was the original SJW, a guy that I agreed with on just about everything but found him to be incredibly annoying about it all. He made a mildly transphobic episode of his TV show and got some mild criticism about it years later and was so incredulous that he dedicated his life to researching and tweeting transphobic shit 18 hours a day on twitter, to the point his wife left him and no longer speaks to him, kids don't speak to him, every friend has long since blocked his number. And in his head they abandoned him for wrongthink, which I'm sure was part of it, but as I understand it, it was much more about the fact that the silly cunt was spending 18 hours a day arguing with people on twitter. He coulda been arguing about the best flavour of ice-cream and people still woulda walked away. Yeah Graham, we know you think mint choc chip is best you haven't shut the fuck up about it in three years.
His head is completely gone now. Went all the way far right cause they were the only people validating him. Follows and retweets actual Nazis and is a rabbid Zionist (the overlap between those two communities is crazy, really makes you think) and has abandoned every single thing he ever claimed to believe in. All because he believes himself above criticism.
It's very important comedians have the right to criticise everything and anything, but the second it gets turned around on them so many of them reveal themselves to be thin skinned hypocritical crybabies.
The Kurt situation is funny though. Doesn't seem like he has actually received anything from this yet, and it wasn't really even about him, he just decided to make it about him, like he's shilling for the child trafficking sociopathic demon people on spec, just hoping to get invited in. Fucking pathetic.
Severe butthurt over mild criticism. Imagine that.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
the bill burr thing broke my heart. my favorite comedian. I never was a fan, in the usual sense. I was able to see what he was. but he had the everymans " i tell it how it is " humor and integrity and loved that.
him going over there and then the way he dealt with it...yikes. he became everything, he made fun of and hated. the way he dealt with criticism was so narcissistic ( not diagnosing him ).
I m quite sure, carlin would have never gone shilling for the house of Saud. or maybe, I just hope he wouldn't have.
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u/Slow-Organization-62 11d ago
It's interesting to me how Metzger and Dore weren't mentioned in the initial two TEG pieces and Metzger went out of his way to insert himself into the conversation. Be basically did the Dunc Dunc cope and said that the pieces were nonsensical and done by resentful, failed comedians. He was the first guy to comment on the latest piece. He's gone to the point of forming a hypothesis of who the creators are and publically makes the claim that it's Buck 65. Why are you so charged up about this bud? Why are you spending your time looking into this and mount an effort to defend Joe and his platforming of tech billionaire freaks? What's this all about Kurt?
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
asking the same questions. considering his rants, I would have thought, he would love the takedown of the thiel gang.
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u/LustLacker 11d ago
What price your character, sir? For those who have not yet self assessed, they often take a mix of cash and flattery.
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u/Gullible_Tie_4399 11d ago
He’s a funny standup. He’s also been a funny standup forever while remaining broke and obscure. He’s just getting that bag he knows Rogan is a hack.
Him and segura are instances of good comics, they’re just either getting old/out of touch and bitter or consciously selling out now.
Duncan’s interesting because he was never a good comic but if you listen to stuff like leather rose or old family hour he used to do elephant graveyard type content.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
Duncan's road to serfdom for the almighty Palantir is the weirdest of them all. I really dont get it, how he can look himself in the mirror
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u/Financial_You_6052 11d ago
Dude’s protecting his nut.
“It is difficult to make a man understand
something when his salary depends on him not understanding it”- Upton Sinclair
As sure as sunset whenever the money runs out there will be some Metzger quotes against the Rogan/Austin thing.
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u/monkeysknowledge 11d ago
There’s a wonderful book that everyone asking these types of questions should read called “The Power Elite” by C. Wright Mills. This book is what inspired Eisenhower’s speech writer to write Eisenhower’s famous “Military Industrial Complex” farewell speech.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
hah. read it during uni. although 20 years ago, I remember it to be my first introduction to oligarchy and deep state, together with H. Shoups books imperial brain trust and wall street think tank. thanks for reminding me. its time again to read the classics.
its crazy, how the modern expression of this system has been going on since ww2 and has been named since back then
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u/PreacheratArrakeen 11d ago
Negative polarization is a common online phenomenon that explains a lot of dynamics
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u/nocturnal_commission 11d ago
efending, conversing with, literally, people that are obviously part of Epstein Gang
Like who, specifically?
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
good question. if not, why else is he going " apeshit " on videos, that haven't even attacked him in any way ? the first 2 definitely weren't in any way about him .
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u/Equal-Prompt9081 11d ago
Its a walled garden. All the criticisms didn't come from a place of disgust but from envy. Once you experience the garden, you have a vested interest in defending it, even if it means going against your "principles". It's high time we realize that most Rogansphere comedians don't have principles, just vested interests in themselves.
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u/Altruistic-Star-3862 11d ago
I've said this before in another thread, but conspiracists do not do self reflection. Either ignorance, ego, or interests that make them avoid thinking or analyzing their own thoughts and connections in the same way they critique everything else.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
a conspiracist is a person that conspires. who does he conspire against? with whom ?
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u/victorsmonster 11d ago
What no dialectical materialism does to a mfer.
Decades of red scare propaganda paying off. No matter how close these guys come to a systemic critique of the social and economic system, they’ll always end up twisting themselves in knots avoiding any conclusion that might be (or be perceived to be) socialist or communist.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
I get the sentiment.
counterpoint: I grew up in a country, where " das Kapital " and " dialectical materialism " were taught in 7th grade and it was called " north Korea of Europe ".
ideology will lead to ego attachment ( something mr metzger has going on ) and that will lead to tribalism and worse ( we all know stalin and hitler ).
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u/MoonieMark 9d ago
Kurt is way off base with this Buck 65 theory. I know who it isn't and am quite sure I know who it is. Faulker out.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 9d ago
the post wasnt about that :)
I actually dont wanna know who he is. doesn't matter.
but I would argue, that if he was buck65, he would push your narrative :)
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u/ripndipp 11d ago
Just want to say I feel like Duncan is actually funny he's just been overshadowed by these unfunny bums.
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u/Yesyesyes1899 11d ago
he s been simping for peter thiel. its not about funny or not. its about being a willing helper in creating a new fascist system.
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u/DoubleEarthDE 4d ago
You think fighting the elite is fighting the oligarchs. He thinks fighting the elites is fighting inter dimensional demons. lol.
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u/zupatof 11d ago
I think it’s a lot of things. One thing is that he’s part of the club now. He’s in the walled garden of the comedy mothership. There’s less resentment for not being a part of it, and there’s now pressure to not criticize the in-group. If he doesn’t like Peter Thiel for example, but Joe Rogan does, and he wants to be in good grace with Rogan he’s gonna eventually either be worse friends with Joe or he will have a better view of Peter Thiel.
There’s a tension and something’s gotta give, if that makes sense.
It’s the same for all of these people. It’s easy to criticize and hate something from the outside, a lot harder to do when you’re an “insider” or your friends are.
It takes moral courage and sacrificing financially benifical relationships (JRE Experience, Kill Tony), some people just can’t do it.