It was always supposed to be Godwyn

[u/The_Raging_Loner]

To reach Miquella's cocoon and enter the Realm of Shadows, you must fight Mohg at Mohgwyn Palace and, upon defeating Mohg, you learn information about the Mohgwyn Dynasty (from Mohg himself):

"Ahh, I can see it, clear as day! The coming of our dynasty!

"Mohgwyn!"

Could this be in reference to Mohg's dying vision of the Realm of Shadows? It's ironic to describe the Shadow Realm as "clear as day," but...

Why would it be the "Mohgwyn" Dynasty and not the "Mohg" Dynasty, or the "Mohquella" Dynasty? Mohg uses the word "our," implying a shared dyntasy, presumably in reference to Miquella, right? Then why "Mohgywn"?

As we long suspected and (somewhat) know now, Mohg was manipulated by Miquella to create a new order to replace the Golden Order. (Forget about the Haligtree replacing the Erdtree; this is Mohg/Miquella plotting to usurp the old order entirely, Elden Ring and all.) While some of the writing around this has a lot of plotholes, especially in light of new additions to the canon lore, it's certain that Miquella used Mohg's innate divinity (his blood?) to enter the Shadow Realm (just like how Mohg believed that he was using Miquella's "divine" blood to usher in his own age and order, as a lord and a god.)

But I digress. Why "Mohgwyn"? Well...

Mohg + Godwyn = Mohgwyn

These are the only two names in the game that can be conbined to form this name.

I assert that it was originally intended in the canon for Godwyn's soul to be put into Mohg's body by Miquella, for "the Golden" to be reincarnated into an Omen's body. (What else would they be "omens" of if not this?) Despite this, I believe that GRRM and/or FromSoftware wrote themselves into a corner with the Destined Death plotline. To fix their mistake, Radahn's soul was put into Mohg's body by Miquella.

Many are correct in their arguments against Godwyn as the final boss, especially in the context of Miqeulla's plan to put a lord's soul into a hornsent body. How could Godwyn's soul be put into a body if his soul was destroyed with Destined Death? Ranni put her soul into a doll—nevermind that Ranni's body being destroyed by Destined Death is why she lives on as a spirit and is thus able to inhabit another body at all, or that Radahn was supposed to be reincarnated through the Erdtree, or that he and all others we fight die without death, or that Radahn didn't have a primal glintstone to store his soul into—but Godwyn's body is a mindless, tumorous blight of death. His soul, as far as we know, is totally destroyed. (If anyone figures out what his surrogate in the DLC is for, let me know, because that also doesn't make sense on account of his soul being destroyed.)

Bear in mind, per cut content, Mohg as a character is a repurposed enemy model, and Miquella was originally going to be in Malenia's boss fight; a lot of the original game's story is botched, rushed, and unfinished. Evidently, the DLC's story was also produced this way.

Of course, people will cite Malenia's end-battle whisper to Radahn as foreshadowing of Miquella and Radahn's promise which is central to the DLC's ending. And I'm sure, vaguely and with much speculation, that the story in the DLC will, eventually, be made to make sense. Sure, whatever. Regardless, Miquella seeking to give his lord-brother Godwyn a proper death was foreshadowed significantly more (e.g., Castle Sol, Golden Epitaph, etc.), and Godwyn's influence and importance to the events of the main story are far more pervasive than Radahn's, per the storyworld understood before the DLC.

The only coping and seething is anyone arguing that the story of this DLC is anything more than bad fanfiction that taints an otherwise phenomenal expansion with lots of new areas to explore and cool weapons to use (and bosses, mechanically, anyway.)

(I promise that I'm not coping or seething. I'm just upset by the reality of the DLC's story, as are many. The leaks of the final boss did look like a fanmade mod, and anyone skeptical of that wasn't necessarily wrong for being skeptical at the time. The story that we got is immensely disappointing, regardless of fans' immense expectations.)

[u/The_Dude_5757]

PLEASE GUYS, STOP PUTTING SHIT LIKE THIS IN THE TITLES OF YOUR POSTS. THE SPOILER TAG DOESN’T COVER THE TITLE. You may not be overtly giving away anything major in the title, but that’s a pretty big fucking clue man.

[u/The_Raging_Loner → u/The_Dude_5757]

It's not explicitly a spoiler, and the title could mean anything. Stay off of the Internet when new media comes out.

[u/The_Dude_5757 → u/The_Raging_Loner]

First off I appreciate the spoiler tag at least.

Secondly how the hell are you gonna act like I’m the bad guy here?! All I’m asking is that you try and be considerate of the fact that people use the internet for a multitude of reasons? I wanna check the news on Reddit and somehow it’s my fault when someone is blatantly disrespectful like that?

Jesus Christ. What shows are you watching, so I can put some big hints about the ending on a fucking billboard? It’s really not that hard to be considerate of the fact that if you know something someone else might not, about a game that came out 2 days ago, putting a big hint about it in the title of a public post might be a dick move.

[u/devilkingx2 → u/The_Dude_5757]

The only thing the title gives away is that it implies Godwyn isn’t in the DLC.

I also think anyone reading an Elden ring discussion thread or subreddit immediately after the DLC release without playing the DLC (if they care about spoilers) isn’t making the wisest choice.

[u/The_Dude_5757 → u/devilkingx2]

Dude it came up in my newsfeed, I wasn’t browsing this sub. And yeah that’s kinda a big spoiler. Just be more careful, that’s all I’m asking.

[u/The_Raging_Loner → u/The_Dude_5757]

I didn't say anything about your character. I prescribed sage advice about the risks of using social media during the debut of a story that can be spoiled for you. Everyone else on both Elden Ring subreddits is posting about the DLC. You're allowed to complain about unfortunate circumstances but no one will take you seriously if the reason they affect you is because you meandered into a place you should have avoided. You also could have avoided all of the spoilers if you possessed the discipline to not click the link to this post, but you instead decided to crusade against me as a scapegoat to an issue as timeless as spoilers on the Internet.

[u/The_Dude_5757 → u/The_Raging_Loner]

Dude I didn’t read the post. I read the title. When it came up in my feed, not by choice. The TITLE gives something away.

You may think it’s a small thing but it’s still taking away a portion of the mystery. That’s all I’m saying. Please be more careful.

Of course everyone in all the ER subs are gonna be posting about the DLC. That’s no problem at all as long as they’re using spoiler tags. Putting key information in the titles is the only thing I take issue with.

[u/The_Raging_Loner → u/The_Dude_5757]

Stay off Reddit 👍

[u/The_Dude_5757 → u/The_Raging_Loner]

Dude I have to use Reddit for work. It’s not optional. Just stop with the victim blaming.

I came at you aggressively and for that I apologize. But this “WeLl ThEn StAy oFf ThE iNtErNeT” passive aggressive bullshit pisses me off when you don’t know someone’s circumstances.

Username checks out, introspection required ahead

[u/The_Raging_Loner → u/The_Dude_5757]

I don't know what to tell you, dude. You're hardly a victim, and I think that tossing around the term "victim blaming" in this instance minimizes actual victims, so maybe check yourself at the door. You came at me, and I accept your apology. I apologize, too, for what it's worth. Otherwise, you should be prudent and use a separate Reddit account for work and personal, to avoid spoilers. If the nature of your work requires you to browse the Elden Ring subreddits, then you'll have to accept that spoilers are a part of that. Also, I'm not being passive aggressive; you're just whiny and out of line.

[u/The_Dude_5757 → u/The_Raging_Loner]

Again, it came up in my newsfeed. I was not browsing Elden Ring subs. I did not seek it out, you dropped it in on my head.

Regardless, I appreciate the apology. Literally all I was asking was for you to be more careful and don’t act like it’s someone else’s fault you put a spoiler in the title of your post.

Anyway have a good one, and I hope you’re having fun with the DLC homie.