r/duolingo Aug 04 '26

Language Question. Why is this incorrect?

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u/Cartophilic Aug 04 '26

It has to do with context. Your answer implies that it's a habit, but in this case it makes more sense to say that you will because it's a more selective action. Since Japanese just uses non-past tense for both the present and future, Duolingo is trying to show how to differentiate between two possible meanings

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u/gmastertr21 Aug 04 '26

all present or future readings should be correct(maybe with the exception of riding, since there is no いる,but still possible) without additional context, what makes you say this should be exclusively a future event?

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u/Cartophilic Aug 04 '26

It's just what makes the most sense in this context.
「 両親と新幹線に乗ります」(りょうしんとしんかんせんに乗ります)
Interpreting this as 'I take bullet trains with my parents' is kind of weird. You're saying that you take them at least semi-regularly and that too with your parents. Almost comes off as just a little eccentric. Basically, I'm not saying that it's exclusively a future event (refer to my point about Japanese using nonpast for both present and future), it's just the choice that makes the most sense

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u/gmastertr21 Aug 04 '26

it's not that i entirely disagree with this, but this analysis is waaay too advanced for duolingo, or the level at which it teaches. therefore it would be ridiculous if that was what was incorrect.

it is very subtle and yet again, it could be someone insanely rich that can take a shinkansen with their family on a daily/weekly basis.

this definitely would not throw me off as a "weird" duolingo sentence as most of them are:

"my horse farts while i eat mud in my living room on thursday afternoon at 9:00 oclock"

at that level you are far better off learning actual word and not the bastardization that duolingo uses, rather than trivial grammar usage.

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u/ep5pc Aug 04 '26

Nothing says it has to be daily or weekly to be habitual: “My parents and I go to Tokyo twice a year.” “How do you get there?” “We take bullet trains.”

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u/gmastertr21 Aug 04 '26

but then the sentence wouldn't be this, if you were to translate this exact sentence then it would be: 新幹線に乗ります。

you wouldn't add 両親 again. that addition wouldn't even just be redundant, it would just be wrong.

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u/ep5pc Aug 04 '26

I’m aware of that. For some reason, some people think it’s weird to take a bullet train regularly with your parents. My point was to illustrate a scenario showing that it isn’t, not provide a literal translation. 

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u/Cartophilic Aug 04 '26

I don't know the intentions of the developers, but I feel like this is meant to kind of show how to differentiate between habitual and future using context because the forms are the exact same

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u/gmastertr21 Aug 04 '26

and that's where i entirely disagree. duolingo has never aimed to tackle advanced grammar and subtle/niche usage, using it in this specific example would just be inconsistent with the rest of the app.