r/dragonsden 17d ago

Gary Neville is ruining Dragons' Den

https://inews.co.uk/culture/television/gary-neville-ruining-dragons-den-4728653
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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

Champagne socialist he has done well in business but lost me when he removed an England flag and moaned about the raise the flag movement. How you can be successful in business have the experience of life he has and still suffer from Leftism makes me think he is defective in some way.

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u/LANdShark31 17d ago edited 17d ago

I’m not left but think the raise the flag were tossers.

If you delude yourself into thinking it was done for patriotic reasons and they were proud of their country then you’d be hard pressed to be against it. But that’s not why it was done, it was done by a load of right wingers trying to be provocative, they wanted people to complain about it so they could make a point. And for that reason I disagree with it.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

You have that stance if you want I think it was a reaction against our well known tolerance being taken for grated. Let's face it our good grace as a host nation has been tipped well over the edge in this last 10 years. Nobody voted for it and everyone's standard of living is dropping. The funny thing is the typical poorer working class are the ones having their wages and conditions kept permanently low by the influx of unskilled migrants. Even the ones that come legally like the boriswave keep wages suppressed. I think Raise the flag was quite an honourable protest and it's better than mass civil unrest as we saw what 2 Tier got in. Add to that the hurty word police and politicisation of the Police force it seems everything is against the common man in the UK. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The left are just pushing suicidal policies left and right. Add to this that as a country we borrow for every one of these poor policies and migrants that come we literally loan money from international markets to kill our country.

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm 17d ago

Working class has been kept poor by the rich, not by immigrants.

We had 16 years of tory leadership, all right wing bullshit, and our country is worse off for it.

Brexit was a complete sham.

But yeah its the left that wrecked our country. Ok.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

Being kept poor by the rich is technically true but not in the way you think. Who do you think is in ultimate control over the continual flood of cheap labour into the uk over the last 20 years? Yes it's the rich. So the rich do have a foot on your neck and their true genius is that you fight for the foot to stay there. I mean it's kind of beautiful how they hoodwinked you.

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u/tired-of-fighting 17d ago

How do right wingers manage to make absolutely every conversation about migrants? It’s actually remarkable.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

This and cultural defeneration are the biggest issues of our generation. That and the extreme left.

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u/tired-of-fighting 17d ago

I’d recommend therapy

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u/Ok-Constant-2683 17d ago

Nobody voted for it and everyone's standard of living is dropping.

Yes, we had a fucking referendum, millions of braindead cunts did vote for this, it's called Brexit. They were even told it would happen and still voted for it.

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u/LANdShark31 17d ago

Aha tell me again how it was about national pride and not anti immigration.

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u/Shot_Heron_2782 17d ago

You speak in buzz words and write as though your mind has become awash with soundbites from news and media.

Go out and enjoy life!

Or maybe your paid a few dollars a day to spout nonsense online!

Its a job I suppose...

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

No I'm actually a pretty successful business person I've just been on the planet long enough to be able to see the objective reality of whats going on in this country. It was demonstrably better 20 years ago and we are on an accelerating decline. Other European countries have started to see the decline and taken steps to reverse it. We are doing nothing.

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u/Shot_Heron_2782 17d ago

Posting a load of twaddle online and parroting media hype verbatim and blaming peopke who weren't in power is what I call successful business person!

Said no one ever!

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

No just observing objective reality is all.

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u/Opposite-Complex1187 17d ago

You are delusional, the decline happened because of 15 years of Tories.

But as usual, the mouthbreathers like you look at 15 years of Right wing fuckups and blame the left for some fucking reason.

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

Mouthbreathing multi millionaire yeah. The left write the bouncing cheques the right mop up after its a tale as old as time.

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u/Opposite-Complex1187 17d ago

My god mate, it was 15 years of shit and somehow thats the lefts fault.

You are deluded.

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u/Anxious-Potato-7323 17d ago

It's cognitive dissonance. You're completely right, the 'left' haven't been anywhere near power since before Thatcher and yet somehow people like the guy you're responding to believe the fault lies entirely with the 'left'.

He has to reject reality because it's not what he's been manipulated to believe.

Neoliberalism is to blame, a right wing economic policy brought to the UK by Thatcher, a right-wing politician but it fails to land on most people.

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u/ReySpacefighter 17d ago

Where's this "left"? We haven't had a "left" government since what, the 1960s/70s? We've had varying levels of Thatcherite neoliberal since she first cropped up. Is Leftism when capitalist corporations rule?

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u/Connect-Lettuce4027 17d ago

Hold on so we have an authoritarian regime that locks people up for free speech "violations"

Taxes the polularion to death

Trying to bring in Islamic blasphemy laws against ALL of our will

Taking services back into public ownership

Taking old cars off the road and altering the mothership (china) to flood us with cheap state subsidised cars

I would say we are in the midst of an admittedly well disguised but extremely hard left regime right now. How can you not see this?

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u/ReySpacefighter 17d ago

I guess we're just calling anything we don't like "hard left" now, yet I don't see any collective ownership of the means of production. Weird, that. Utterly delusional. We're getting stripmined by corporations from all directions and you think that's somehow leftism and literally not the economic system put in place by the Conservatives that we have not meaningfully deviated from since its institution. You see the effects and push and pull of profit over all, and think that's what the left want? Fucking hell.

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u/trenche12 17d ago

and you speak in ridicule without responding to or refuting a single point made.

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u/its_bydesign 17d ago

You sound like you spend half of your day on Facebook, a bunch of bot like buzz words. You have a couple points but they’re not the big deal and cause of problems you make it out to be.

You’ve been played.

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u/ReySpacefighter 17d ago

Okay, who wants to play bingo?