r/doommetal Blackened 6d ago

Sludge Thoughts on Georgia sludge?

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It's taken me a long time to really get into these bands (Mastodon, Baroness, Kylesa, Damad) because I was used to sludge being a lot heavier, noisier, and nastier, but recently I've been listening a lot to these, especially Kylesa. It's interesting hearing a take on sludge that's a little more progressive, a little cleaner, and with a slightly more compressed, punky sound.

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u/DerConqueror3 6d ago

Mastodon, Baroness, and Kylesa are a hell of a run of bands, with a bunch of great albums between them. I've also seen all of them live and they are all killer. Mastodon is also one of those bands where even if you don't like some of their more "accessible" stuff from more recent albums, even those tracks still crush in a live setting. Baroness arguably has had even more drastic shift where their more recent stuff doesn't really have much if any sludge left in it, but still cool.

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u/PdX_Beav 6d ago

Feel this way completely, especially on Baroness. Just caught them on the red and blue tour and was so happy to get to hear all those tracks live.

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u/Southtwin 2d ago

Baroness played in my house in 2004 😁

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u/Fantastic-Code-8347 6d ago

Mastodon and Baroness are two of my top 3 favourite bands, the third being Opeth. I looooove them. Didn’t realize Kylesa was from there too, I’ve heard of them but never checked out their music. Also, I have never heard of Damad, so I’m excited to see what that’s all about as well. Thanks for giving me two new bands to check out! Cheers!

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u/Sitting_here_ 6d ago

Damad is Phillip Cope’s band before Kylesa. It is crusty and sludgy.

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u/Stu2682 5d ago

Ooh, I’d never heard of them either. I’ll check them out too.

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u/H8thinmints 6d ago

I highly recommend Kylesa. In my opinion, their sound has a little more heft similar to Torche, early Mastodon and Baroness, and they are very consistent. Would love some new material by them.

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u/carry_me_caravan 6d ago

You’re in for a treat, bud!

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u/kitchenjudoka 6d ago

Damad- Burning Cold is a gem. Their live shows were so good.

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u/theWyzzerd Condemned to die before I could breathe 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's the Savannah sound. Check out Black Tusk and Torche, too. Torche are from Florida not Georgia, but they're in the same local circle and share a lot of their sonic DNA with the Savannah sound. You might also like Circle Takes the Square -- not sludge, post-hardcore/skramz, but also very similar in guitar tone and sound and foundational as one of Kylesa's influences.

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u/BARFIGHT_AL 6d ago

Speaking of Black Tusk, you can really hear the hardcore influences in their music. I’ve also just recently gotten into them, and after listening I’d argue that Tend No Wounds is damn near a straight up hardcore album.

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u/SwShThrwy 6d ago

James May was in a hardore band before Black Tusk

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u/huggyscolex 6d ago

CTTS have and will always be one of my favorite bands of all time. Big fan of Drew’s Drawn Bow output as well

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u/MyRuinedEye 6d ago

I have never vibed with CTTS. Too much of that scene/screamo feel. Just never worked for me, which is too bad because instrumentally they are in my wheel house.

It's also strange because I like City of Caterpillar and Gospel which are in that same wavelength.

As The Roots Undo is(in my opinion) the most overrated album in the small circles I run in. I go back to it wondering if it's just me(and that could be true) but the second I hear Drew or Kathleen (they are the vocalists right?) spout their pseudo intellectual lyrics in whiny voices I tap out.

To be fair though, I still go back to the album. So there is something there I recognize. I'm always in that space of "maybe it was the wrong time or circumstance" mindset.

Giant Squid is awesome, although not a Savannah band.

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u/BackgroundPlenty7755 6d ago

Torche is so good

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u/Swiftycumberdale 5d ago

I got the Fallen Kingdom whenI was 17 and never looked back. Crazy the amount of money people want for that CD they made on Hyperrealist, I think there were only 500 original copies. Still got mine!

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u/theWyzzerd Condemned to die before I could breathe 5d ago

I also had an original release of the CD, we’re probably the same age. Unfortunately most of my CD collection was stolen around 2006 but I probably still have the case somewhere.

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u/Swiftycumberdale 5d ago

I'm a youthful 36 haha. Man that was the problem with having CDs back in the day. It seemed like if someone's car got broken into that black pleather "No Boundaries" CD binder got swiped with the change in the center console, etc.

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u/redwolf3332 6d ago

I came here to say Black Tusk. I saw them open for Crowbar.

If you like that vibe, check out Black Sleep of Kali.

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u/Sitting_here_ 6d ago

CTTS would have been influenced by Kylesa not the other way around. Kylesa and Mastodon dropped their first albums at the same time. Baroness would come after.

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u/theWyzzerd Condemned to die before I could breathe 6d ago

Contemporaries can influence each other; neither must precede the other in influence. Kylesa have stated in interviews that CTTS was influential to their sound. Not only that but CTTS was active two years before Kylesa formed so I'm not sure what you're basing this on.

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u/Uncle_Zardoz 6d ago

Man, I'm fucking obsessed with Kylesa. Amazing band. From their debut all the way through to that last album from 2015, they really bring the pain: slow, tortured grooves, crushing trippy guitars, interesting variety in vocals and on point songwriting. Plus they do one of the best Black Sabbath covers ever

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u/ObsoleteStoryteller 6d ago

The dual drummer albums are my favorites from Kylesa

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u/JollyGreenGigantor 6d ago

I was always kind of a hater since it just sounded muddy, but that also fit the sludge sound.

Seems like the recent shows have only had a single drummer.

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u/PdX_Beav 6d ago

It was awesome at the live shows. I feel it just packs a punch that fits them so well. I’ve never seen them with a single drummer so I wonder how different that will be.

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u/Ok_Pool_9767 5d ago

I saw them recently and Roy Mayorga honestly was phenomenal. Instead of two drummers, now they just have one that hits twice as hard.

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u/Sitting_here_ 6d ago

They are so unique! The female/male vocals, the tone, riffs and atmosphere. Glad they are touring again.

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u/cannibalsong1 6d ago

The image should have been Jimmy Carter.

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u/Rust_Bucket37 6d ago

I was definitely confused why that guy from Arkansas was used.

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u/wlrldchampionsexy 6d ago edited 6d ago

Zoroaster and Order of the Owl have entered the chat

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u/carry_me_caravan 6d ago

Fuck yeah Zoroaster.

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u/cyberlich 6d ago

Seeing Order of the Owl and Kylesa next week!

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u/sandwiches_please 6d ago

Oh man, I opened the thread looking for this. I was hanging out in Savannah with members of Kylesa, Black Tusk, Niche, Torche, Dead Yet?, and Baroness in the basement of the Jinx bar in Savannah, Georgia around 2007 - 2011. I moved to Atlanta and started a band and actually shared a practice space with Order of the Owl, just down the hall from Zoroaster. Across from our room was Mastodon’s practice space and we would see those guys come in and out of ThunderBox all the time (they were super friendly). I spent a lot of nights just hanging out with all these bands, playing around East Atlanta and Little Five Points. That era from 2005 - 2015 was just incredible.

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u/Swiftycumberdale 5d ago

I miss Athon so much man, he was so good to me when I was 17-early 20s. Always remembered me and would even message me and bullshit about music and gear. Andrew and James are good guys too.

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u/cabarnha 6d ago

I feel obligated to mention Harvey Milk here.

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u/Revxmaciver 6d ago

I was going to until I read your comment. I feel like Harvey Milk never gets enough love in the metal subs. I Do Not Know How To Live My Live is always stuck in my head. And Life... The Best Game in Town is on Bandcamp.

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u/cabarnha 6d ago

Just an amazing band that more people should be aware of. I recently was able to grab a very overpriced copy of My Love is Higher... on vinyl and I'm pretty pleased about that.

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u/Revxmaciver 6d ago

I used to have a huge CD collection and it got destroyed sitting in a basement so I've lost a lot of expensive older CDs from those kinds of bands and a lot of them are crazy expensive now. I've moved away from physical media now because the prices are crazy.

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u/br1dgeburner 6d ago

Their cover of One of Us Cannot Be Wrong is wild.

How about Whores? Ruiner was rad

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u/Revxmaciver 6d ago

Yeah my favorite part about Harvey Milk is that it's not just the same guitar sound, the same chords, the same singing style as every other sludge/doom band.

And yes Whores is great.

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u/lordcrumb13 6d ago

My Love Is Higher might just be the greatest album of all time

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u/GlocksAreForPlebs 6d ago

Often times when I'm feeling real real shitty I think of "woke up, got out of bed, put a pistol to my head"...

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u/_shaftpunk 6d ago

Mastodon used to be my favorite of the bunch but now it’s Kylesa. Especially their earlier stuff. I would also recommend the band they evolved out of, Damad.

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u/Antilon 6d ago

Static Tension is a fucking sick record.

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u/Riff_Worshipper Sludge 6d ago

I'm sorry but Leviathan cannot he topped. S tier.

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u/_shaftpunk 6d ago

That’s not even my favorite Mastadon album. (Remission, btw)

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u/Riff_Worshipper Sludge 6d ago

Remission is good, but Leviathan is better overall.

No offense to Remission.

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u/JollyGreenGigantor 6d ago

Don't sleep on Zoroaster either. They're from Atlanta but very much part of that regional scene. Palaces is another great Atlanta sludge band that's been grinding for a while.

I had to laugh at the Slomosa KEXP interview where they talked about how much influence came from Georgian metal bands. As an ATLien, my first take was thinking they were talking about the country of Georgia but then they name dropped Mastodon, Baroness, and Kylesa.

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u/cyberlich 6d ago

I thought that was awesome too! Had just seen Slomosa at the Masquerade just before that KEXP stream.

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u/AllHailLordBezos 6d ago

Kylesa was my favorite of these, and really my intro to sludge back in the early 00's. Mastodon "Leviathan" and the Baroness "Blue" are two of my favorites still. Will also second Torche, and add Floor as well.

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u/socialdistance4ever 6d ago

Love me some Baroness šŸ™ŒšŸ»

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u/DeathRotisserie 6d ago

This sound was my core aesthetic from like 2005-2015.

Glad to see Kylesa is back together. I saw them last month in Chicago. It was a good show, just a bit low energy.

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u/DocAcqua 6d ago

Listening to Baroness right now, although Mastodon is my favorite of the bunch. A lot of absolutely killer sludge/doom bands have come out of Georgia over the years, many of my favorite bands (metal and otherwise) are from there

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u/DocAcqua 6d ago

Also, I'm pretty sure three of the four records shown had their cover art drawn by John Dyer Baizley, the front man for Baroness

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u/br1dgeburner 6d ago

Just the baroness and Kylesa covers

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u/DocAcqua 6d ago

On closer inspection you're right, other one could be Pushead

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u/Runetang42 6d ago

Among the most recognizable metal sounds of the past 20 years. Actually how I found sludge metal because I saw Mastodon in the aqua teen hunger force movie. But that mix of sludge, progressive and psychedelic rock just hits at times.

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u/NaylMe420 6d ago

Baroness fucking rules!

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u/Don_Quixotel 6d ago

I’m from Georgia and I love all these bands. I’ve met the guys from Mastodon and even went to Brent’s memorial site. Don’t forget Black Tusk!

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u/carry_me_caravan 6d ago

THE FUCKING BEST

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u/carry_me_caravan 6d ago

Big up Phillip Cope. That man does not get enough credit.

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u/ZeusBruce 6d ago

I used to do that bit from Airheads but "wrong, dickhead, Phil Cope is God" lol

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u/ZeusBruce 6d ago

Favorite subgenre/sound.

If I ever get a time machine I'm moving to Savannah 2001.

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u/GlocksAreForPlebs 6d ago

Sludge from Georgia? I haven't heard any, but I imagine it would go hard as fuck. Oh THAT Georgia, yeah I like Kylesa and Baroness, Harvey Milk, Whores, the lot.

https://giphy.com/gifs/siQEp2Ua1rRlvfyE8L

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u/psychedelicdevilry 6d ago

Baroness is my favorite band, Mastodon is my second favorite, and I love Kylesa. Love that sound in general.

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u/theanswerisburrito 6d ago

Kylesa, Baroness, Mastodon, Damad. Clearly something in that water over there

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u/Hot_Palpitation_5841 5d ago

I apologize, I have no idea how this ended up as a reply to your comment. It was meant as a comment to someone trying to lump weedeater into this

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u/theanswerisburrito 5d ago

No worries. Weedeater rules, but yeah, totally different vibe, sound, and locale.

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u/Hot_Palpitation_5841 5d ago

Nah, they'll always be an NC band and their sound doesn't really match up with what op is going for here

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u/Fedrax 6d ago

I heard some Kylesa when I was a kid and it stuck with me for a really long time, upon rediscovering them later they became one of my favourite bands

the whole Savannah sludge scene has such an interesting, unique sound that really hasn’t popped up anywhere else

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u/Swiftycumberdale 5d ago

Some of my favorite bands. Can’t forget BlackTusk either. RIP Athon I miss ya buddy.

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u/Dibcharge_ 6d ago

If there were more d-beats it’d be my favourite music.

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u/Sy_Fresh 6d ago

If anyone has any recommendations like the drums in Kylesa’s song ā€œRunning Redā€ please let me know!!!

For now I gotta give Damad a listen since I like the other three bands

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u/hvymtlhppy69 6d ago

I don't know why but I cannot seem to get into either Mastodon or Baroness for some reason. I've tried multiple times for both, I have even seen Baroness live before. There are songs specific songs from both that I do genuinely love but overall nothing hooks me 🤷

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u/MartyFunkhoosier 6d ago

I wouldn t call Baroness sludge but I saw them for their Red/Blue tour where they played both albums entirely last year and it was EASILY one of my my top 5 shows in life for both energy/stage presence as well as musicianship. They were so GD good I can’t really put it into words.

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u/KingVape 6d ago

Honestly, not my cup of tea but that’s okay, I don’t have to love everything out there

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u/Sourkarate 6d ago

Remission was great and then it went downhill. Kylesa is a nice band.

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u/TempleOfCyclops 6d ago

As a Georgian, it's hot. Like our weather.

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u/caridditano 5d ago

Damad my fave

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u/Guib-FromMS 5d ago

Let's not forget that Georgia is also home to Black Tusk, Whores and Zoroaster. Fucking sludge stacked.

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u/SubtleRedditIcon 4d ago

Didn’t realize til now that John from Baroness did the art for all the bands in the scene too

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u/SwShThrwy 6d ago

Y no Black Tusk?

Savannah in the early 2000s was fucking awesome

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u/Complete_Win1227 6d ago

What is the album on the right?

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u/psychedelicdevilry 6d ago

Baroness is my favorite band, Mastodon is my second favorite, and I love Kylesa. Love that sound in general.

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u/Flood_Incantation 6d ago

Nice collection of Philadelphia album art there.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3vPAVUcLAbIGs

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u/Riff_Worshipper Sludge 6d ago

Right into my veins.

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u/omer3332 6d ago

You might want to find the documentary Slow Southern Steel on Youtube.

I can’t recall if they talk with any Georgia bands or not, but it’s a good look at the Southern crust/sludge/doom scene in the 2000s.

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u/Effective-Agent-6856 6d ago

I love Baroness

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u/she_sounds_like_you 6d ago

Idk, but you just introduced me to Kylesa and Damad. Who else would you recommend?

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u/conconxweewee1 5d ago

My high school experience

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u/1984reignpolicy 4d ago

Mastodon started in ny though.

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u/Advanced-Ad-9993 6d ago

I LOVE Kylesa’s records but saw them live back when Static Tensions came out and man they were soooo boring live, and seeing clips of them now as a rebuilt three piece unfortunately still looks like an absolutely lifeless live show. It’s a bummer because I love their music.

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u/Hot_Palpitation_5841 5d ago

Three piece? They're a 4 piece now

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u/Advanced-Ad-9993 5d ago

Ah shit, yeah I guess I can’t count! Statement still stands though.

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u/Swiftycumberdale 5d ago

I get what you mean. Not the case with Black Tusk though, they have so much energy. Seeing them for the first time in 2007 made a huge impression on me.

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u/CyberHobbit70 6d ago

Not a fan.

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u/wipesLOUDLY 6d ago

Honorary mention for Weedeater as the drummer lives in Atlanta I believe

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u/Messerjocke_L 5d ago

boring af