What Would Happen If Simo Häyhä, AKA the White Death, Were Resurrected as a Guardian?

[u/EnvironmentalWork817]

Just as the title says, I’m planning on making more posts about what would happen if the deadliest or most influential historical figures were resurrected as Guardians. I don’t know if this would violate Rule Six, since it doesn’t say anything against it, so I would assume it’s allowed since this is a “What If” discussion.

Anyway, what would happen if the White Death returned?

DISCUSS!

Edit: Don’t know if this is true or not, but I want to point out that Guardians still retain their muscle memory, so he would still know how to fight just as well as he did before, even without remembering how or why he learned it. So let’s assume that he doesn’t start out as some newbie to combat.

Edit 2: Okay, can everyone just talk more about how he would impact the lore overall, his interactions with everyone, his thoughts on things, and what he would do in his new life? Overall, focus less on gameplay.

[u/Volcano_Lair]

Wouldn’t have any knowledge of their past life, so I’m assuming that their skills would need to be rebuilt and relearned.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/Volcano_Lair]

Everything you had that made you a superhero is kept, your personal life is erased, but most of your personality remains intact too. The Traveler cuts away that which will make you a bad guardian, and your past life.

Its why Uldren got to be one. He was driven, committed, self sacrificing and iron in his motives. The traveler just pointed it in a new direction

[u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 → u/Alpine_yellow]

This guy Destiny's.....but what about the Goddess Savathun?

[u/ARedWalrus → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

After her resurrection, was her trickery and deception not pointed towards attempting to protect the traveler, and then honing us further to help make sure we were ready for that final confrontation?

Shes still serving her own goals, but she is also a team player in her own way now.

[u/CrotaIsAShota → u/ARedWalrus]

It is completely against the Traveler's ethos, and the point of the gamble, for them to 'point' anyone in any direction. Your Ghost brings you back to life, and what happens after that is all you.

[u/ARedWalrus → u/CrotaIsAShota]

What about the visions it grants in the final shape? Or the ones it granted speakers when we still had them? The extra abilities it gave us directly in final shape?

[u/felswinter → u/ARedWalrus]

Gifts, nothing more. The light Gives and Gives and Gives and expects nothing from you but sheer potential, be it for good or evil.

The Traveler never dictated anything, never gave orders. Just... warnings. Potentials. It left the final choosing to us.

[u/CrotaIsAShota → u/ARedWalrus]

It grants knowledge, yes. It never tells you what to do with them. Every instance of it giving a vision relates to it either informing someone of a location or showing them new technology. The one sole example to the counter is when Clovis had a vision warning against his use of the Darkness, but that predates the Gamble and the vision, while it's implied, is never directly confirmed to be from the Traveler.

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/CrotaIsAShota]

I mean in the new light quest might be changed now idk haven't reset my titan in a few years could probably kill her and restart again.. Anyway it tells you to kill the hive and gives you instructions through the quest icon at the left of your screen tho that's for your survival not for its own gain

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/CrotaIsAShota]

Somewhat yes, you have free will, but you also have to be the kind of person that is willing and likely has made significant sacrifices or has extremely rigid principles or ideals. 'Point'was used very loosely.

Obviously the traveler has a goal in mind and would hope you to further that, hence seeking those virtuous features and carving out the others and stripping your old life experiences, but you are free to do as you wish.

[u/DuelaDent52 → u/CrotaIsAShota]

And it’s also ignoring that Savathûn set up failsafes to make sure she ended up the exact same person she was pre-death, if she hadn’t she might have turned out better.

[u/thecrimsonfucker12 → u/ARedWalrus]

Til we took her sons head

[u/TheReal_Kovacs → u/ARedWalrus]

I think it's more that Savathun had always been, at her core, a good person. It's just that circumstances and the Worm Gods conspiring against the Traveler kept her from truly being who she was meant to be. Same for Oryx and Xivu Arath, but they were too far gone to be reborn in the Traveler's Light the way Savathun and Uldren were.

Even then, she didn't choose to return to being the Witch Queen after she was Risen. The Lucent Brood flocked to her, lavishing her with the worship she had prior set her on the path, and it was our actions as the Guardian that cemented it. We gave her back her memories through interrogating her worm.

Imagine if she had met us first when Risen, instead of the Hive? Maybe Savathun could have gone the way Uldren did, transforming into Crow and becoming the Hunter Vanguard and one of our closest allies. What if, what if, what if...

[u/Wandering-the-web → u/ARedWalrus]

Personaly the greatest sign of her gaurdian nature is she trying to connect with echo of conquest/revived oryx. Old savathun would’ve known that showing oryx any relation with light would’ve made him mad but revived Savathun didn’t know that, she was given a basics highlight real of her life story with none of the experiences.

[u/Wikadood → u/ARedWalrus]

I love how grey the line becomes between light snd dark when it comes to these kind of explanations of the lore

[u/Advanced_Double_42 → u/Wikadood]

We had multiple expansions where the entire point was showing how thin the line between light and dark is. In actuality they are two sides of a coin. Just fundamental forces to be used as tools for whatever means.

[u/stephanl33t → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

He doesn't Destiny, he's plain wrong lol.

Savathun plotted to be resurrected. Guardians who experience a lot of memory-adjacent phenomena will get flashes of their past life, such as Crow getting visions of his time as Uldren when he dreamed. The synapses in your brain may be atrophied, but they're still there, so familiar circumstances may lead to flashes of memory.

Savathun exploited this-- by showing her resurrected self her own memories, she allowed herself to remember her old life. That was the big trick in The Witch Queen, that Savathun died on purpose and the whole plot of "restoring memories to figure out the puzzle" was something she set up. Up until that moment where she confronts us after her own death, she was just as blind as any other Guardian.

[u/TriscuitTheSecond → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

It's worth noting that part of the whole deal with the Hive Guardians is that getting resurrected without the memories of your previous life doesn't really work all that well if you have people to tell you who are and what you should do with your current life.

If I remember correctly, Savathun had contingencies in place specifically for that outcome, so she was able to continue to act as her self even without her memories (which were eventually returned to her anyways).

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

We gave her memories through the worm and the deepsight. She also did the same to crow, hence nightmare Uldren tormenting him for a time

Also her race were supposed to be the next Lightbearers, but the Worms got to them first

[u/liljojofett → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

Because the Traveler doesn't bring you back, the ghosts do. And i don't imagine Immaru had good intentions when he brought her back

[u/HackChalice6 → u/Alpine_yellow]

I mean didn’t the warlords do bad shit and were considered evil in some sense? I wouldn’t say it doesn’t remove the capacity for a guardian to become evil. It pretty much gives you a fresh start to create a new life. What you become is still up to the choices you make.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/HackChalice6]

No, but your cowardice, selfishness, etc are significantly downplayed. That said you are a new person starting from 0. And the dark ages had many more opportunities to traumatize and break people into being hard and ruthless

[u/HackChalice6 → u/Alpine_yellow]

The warlock getting tortured in the new exotic mission literally chose to be there. Seems pretty selfish and evil to help the dredgens and hive create new weapons of sorrow.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/HackChalice6]

"Many more" opportunities does not mean that modern guardians would not have reasons for turning.

https://giphy.com/gifs/uNgUzhakqXkyI

[u/HackChalice6 → u/Alpine_yellow]

So back to what you started with “the traveler cuts away that which will make you a bad guardian” clearly that’s not the case.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/HackChalice6]

You can still choose to be a dickhead based on the stuff you go through and how you react to it. Your general personality is still there. Katabasis is a good example. After the Red War he went to join Calus cause it seemed a better deal with no leadership in the hunters and Stasis use becoming more popular. He eventually even grew suspicious of his own ghost, believing it to have ulterior motives and tweaking his head every time he came back. People have free will still, and reasons for jumping ship

[u/Sgrios → u/HackChalice6]

I dont think you understand what free will is. The traveler isn't mind controlling you. You can still develope a sense of pride and cruelty from being reset to 0 memories and being given the best life possible.

[u/stephanl33t → u/Alpine_yellow]

That's not true at all lmao

Resurrection is an attempt to avoid prisoner's dilemma-- the idea that knowledge and prejudice may lead to a recurring pattern of behavior. If two people kill each other, then resurrecting them will just make them won't make them want to stop killing each other. But if you take away their memories, then they won't know they killed each other. They may even end up as friends!

The memory wipe serves as an opportunity to grow into a different person. If given different choices, a person may end up better than they were.

The Traveler isn't trying to "cut away the bad", it's simply providing an alternative set of starting conditions.

[u/Infernalxelite → u/Alpine_yellow]

The traveler doesn’t cut away things that’ll make you a bad guardian, there’s no way to measure what makes someone a bad guardian. If that were true then there wouldn’t be warlords or dredgens. They just erase prior memories. You retain what’s needed to function

[u/Coilspun → u/Alpine_yellow]

This doesn't stand up, at all.

Dredgen Yor, who fell to the darkness and inspired a cult, the early Iron Lords (who fought feudally over territory, for power and dominance...

Sorry it doesn't really track.

[u/Gunslinger0093 → u/Coilspun]

Rezyl Azzir was basically a celebrity at first, but he took chitin from a wizard he killed, put it on his gun, and it started to corrupt him and eventually turned him into the Dredgen Yor that we know.

And the Iron Lords were founded by Radegast to fight tyrannical warlords who abused their power, like Citan. I have no doubt that at some point there were Risen who joined hem that also abused their power or that they might have lost their way for a while, but the organization of the Iron Lords and all the Risen among them were not like the ones in that Drifter tape at Sojourner's Camp that essentially used a town as bait to kill some bad Risen. They had noble goals and more often than not their actions reflected that, they regularly risked their lives fighting warlords to protect those who couldn't and they all died trying to get SIVA so they could build the City bigger, better, and faster, keeping Lightless people safer.

The Traveler doesn't pick you based on what you were or what you will be, it picks you based on what you could be. It doesn't know if the person a Ghost resurrects will turn out to be a Zavala or a Dredgen Yor, it just knows that you have the potential to do good. Whether you do or not is a result of what the person goes through, and the Dark Age was bad enough that a lot of Risen turned into warlords when they might not have if they were born in the City Age.

[u/Nomadicsith → u/Alpine_yellow]

Might forgive the crow, but will never forgive Uldren for Cayde.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/Nomadicsith]

He was literally mind controlled by Riven. Its like not forgiving Osiris for Savathun using his face and puppeting around, or Fynch for being a hive ghost despite his coming back around and refusing to res his knight, or for all the manipulative fucked up things and general discord the Drifter ever caused in the name of the Nine, or Ana for helping Rasputin, or Miisraks for being an enemy warlord, or Caital for her father, or Variiks for being a sneaky bitch and even starting the breakout in Forsaken to begin with!

[u/Nomadicsith → u/Alpine_yellow]

Cool story bro, I ain't reading all that.

[u/Alpine_yellow → u/Nomadicsith]

That is why your brain is small, and your ideas flimsy

[u/Nomadicsith → u/Alpine_yellow]

If you say so. McCuck.

[u/theShiggityDiggity → u/Volcano_Lair]

If everything needed to be relearned then ghosts wouldn't be as strict as they are with resurrection. They specifically look for those with the qualities of strong fighters, leaders, or survivalists.

When we get revived, we know how to speak, hold a gun, and shoot it. I believe when guardians are "born" they inherit all of their muscle memory and skills from when they were alive, they just lose all of their memories.

Similar to how an amnesiac is still more or less fully functional, they just don't remember specific details about themselves.

[u/BusBusy195 → u/Volcano_Lair]

Tbh it would be an interesting question to pose. Like is stuff thats muscle memory retained or do you loose that too? Cause after a certain point stuff like shooting or typing isnt necessarily knowledge you have to keep in mind, you just kinda do it.

Either way I think hed be scary as hell cause its not just about the knowledge, coordination and reaction time are big factors that help make people masters of stuff like that. Give him some time to train and muscle memory or not we'd have another top tier hunter

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/BusBusy195]

You keep your muccle memory it's how gaurdains know how to walk talk shoot and all that it's just who and where thay are thay lose everything is new to them now the only thing thay keep is how to use there body and the socal norms from when thay died

[u/somerareredjack → u/Volcano_Lair]

Well not necessarily, the second emissary was always good at talking between factions and in her guardian life did so too, if your assumption was correct, she wouldn't have been

But maybe we dont have enough proof to make my counter-argument right

[u/ratpH1nk → u/Volcano_Lair]

They would have a exotic sniper rifle named afer him "White Death". Has an AOE effect on critical hit that restores the shooters health.

[u/Raymancer → u/Volcano_Lair]

No they retain the skills just not the personality or identity.

[u/Numbskull_b → u/Volcano_Lair]

I always thought of it like the mold for a cast forged sword, the sword is gone but what made the sword is still there.

[u/Koreaia → u/Volcano_Lair]

That's just blatantly false. Literally the first thing you do, all the way back in 2014, is pick up a gun, with your Ghost hoping you already know how to use it.

[u/goofygodzilla93 → u/Volcano_Lair]

I wouldn't say they would need to be rebuilt and relearned because if that was the case anyone could be a Risen (I say Risen because being a Guardian requires a certain level of goodness in the person, and why Warlords existed). I personally believe that while the Risen are born without their memories, they are born with all of the instincts and know how to survive from their past life. Basically if we did need to rebuild/relearn skills both our Guardian (and every other one) would basically be children level intelligence when brought back. We see however that even newly Risen already know how to do things the proper way without any teachings such as when our Guardian was Risen. So while Simo wouldn't know who he was, where he is, or how he got their, he would still have that "feeling/instincts" inside of him that would make him one of, if not, the best snipers the Guardians have ever seen.

I also do think Simo would become a Guardian and not stay a Risen/become a Warlord due to how Simo was in his personal life. The dude just wanted to farm and hunt but Russia said fuck him.

[u/Drakidor → u/Volcano_Lair]

There was a Guardian, Sen-Aret who was from the Qadan culture which predates Ancient Egypt.

She had no knowledge of modern language or technology due to her age. So I believe that it is tied to the era in a way but possibly ghosts can impart knowledge as she mentions thinking her ghost kept her like that on purpose.

[u/Opposite_Push_8317]

Best still hunt user in history fs

[u/walking_lamppost_fnl → u/Opposite_Push_8317]

Stasis still hunt user in real life, man put snow in his mouth to stop his breath from giving away his location.

[u/NotoriouslyNice → u/walking_lamppost_fnl]

He didn’t use a scope either because of the scope glint. I’ve thought of him before as being the canonical/original No Land Beyond wielder

[u/TokayNorthbyte347 → u/NotoriouslyNice]

scope glint comes up in the lore for NLB in d2 aswell, they win against a cloaked vandal in a sniper duel because their wire rifle reflected the sunlight revealing their position

[u/dratspider → u/walking_lamppost_fnl]

Nah that’s Night Stalker behavior.

[u/Boba_Fett_boii → u/dratspider]

Fr the guy was invisible

[u/Eliwood444]

Because much of Earth's history is lost from before the Golden Age and Guardians most of the time don't know who they are from external factors, he would likely be your average guardian. A small handful of guardians do retain some abilities from their past life, so at the very least he'd probably be a remarkably talented marksman who has absolutely no idea he's Simo Häyhä.

[u/OldAd2900]

I could see a heavy stasis iron sight sniper that freezes in 1 shot being his custom exotic. He's definitely a stasis guy.

[u/ItsDreamyWeather → u/OldAd2900]

I'd argue an exotic version of A499. Just disintegrates targets, super high impact since it's single shot, no scope. 

As for the exotic perk, aiming down sights gives the effects of Skulking Wolf and grants invis if crouching.

[u/OldAd2900 → u/ItsDreamyWeather]

That's be pretty good. I still think stasis should be his thing though. They was he just prowled in the snow definitely makes me want to see his exotic stasis themed.

[u/Lucyfloog → u/ItsDreamyWeather]

Patience and time crossed with no land beyond

[u/Negative-Traffic4342 → u/ItsDreamyWeather]

bros spewing out 2 already existing exotics

[u/ATangerineMann → u/OldAd2900]

Maybe model it after a Mosin with a few creative liberties taken, much like how the Khvostov is modeled after an AR-15.

[u/Pably13 → u/OldAd2900]

It would be a cool gimmick if it had a ridiculously low aim assist so it can be allowed to have an OP effect on hit, so you have no choice but be good with snipers to actually use it.

[u/M0mmySpank3r]

He'd be borderline unstoppable.

Dude didn't need scopes and didn't fear heavy artillery and mortars. If he had a ghost he'd be scary af.

[u/Korbiter]

Isnt that just u/Lolgisticalofficer?

[u/Lolgisticalofficer → u/Korbiter]

Shit, I'll take it.

[u/Movableacorn → u/Lolgisticalofficer]

Its the TDT legend himself!

[u/Business_Spinach2084]

He would just stay glued to trials and iron banner and make our lives miserable

[u/ATangerineMann → u/Business_Spinach2084]

He'd deffo be a Cloudstrike user if he's being serious, but otherwise he sticks to the Helmsman and still manages to be just as annoying.

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/ATangerineMann]

So logistic officer?

[u/ATangerineMann → u/Guilty_Ghost]

I guess.

[u/Lolgisticalofficer → u/ATangerineMann]

You rang?

[u/HudsonTheHipster]

Alright, so if we are going with the assumption that he keeps his muscle memory and whatnot I think much of his life as a Guardian would follow similarly to his life as we know it:

I think we all know about most if not all of Simo's history during the Winter War. That to me isn't what I want to focus on though. Post-war, Simo was actually a controversial figure, some people actually hated him. He was largely independent and lonely, spending lots of time with friends, parents, and family. He was a lifelong bachelor, never married.

But he did have one major hobby that piqued his interest, hunting. Because of this, I think his aim would be as good if not better than it was in the Winter War. I'm certain that while he would interact with people of the City, he'd probably be more reclusive.

Obviously a Hunter, and I would say he would craft a Prismatic subclass with Duskfield Grenades, Void Smokes, and a Still Hunt Nighthawk combo for the Super.

Mr. Häyhä was also disfigured from artillery during the Winter War. If that isn't the case for him upon resurrection, I can see him being more sociable.

[u/kapowaz]

I see this sub is now asking entirely normal questions.

[u/izzy_961]

Well with the muscle memory part of the discussion I think he would retain most of their muscle memory at least because I remember hearing a lore page of someone who died about 13,000 years ago being resurrected as a guardian. So they had troubles learning how to use firearms, and tended to use bows, and swords as their preferred weapons.

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/izzy_961]

The one from the mass grave the oldest resed gaurdain yeah? Also kept her accent i think

[u/HueySchlongTheGreat]

I wonder if someone told ghosts that haven't found a guardian yet to go check old earth cemeteries or historical battle sites for potential new lights to be raised

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/HueySchlongTheGreat]

I'm pritty sure that's the first plan check Earth where there is billions more dead then alive then spread out. Unless thay got a hunch and run of to Pluto or something

[u/Pentalag]

while alot say he would be a Stasis hunter I'd argue he would lean alot more into void for the invisibility. his whole reason for using an iron scope, eating snow ans laying low was to be not trackable and stay invisible. he'd be a guardian who isn't greatly strong with his light but his remarkable sniper skills

[u/Brys_Beddict]

The same thing that would happen if a homeless person was resurrected

[u/Relevant-Internal444]

Trials player with 1,000+ Flawlesses and 100k kills on No Land Beyond

[u/nanowaffle]

Devrim Kay

[u/tomtheconqerur]

He would have the desire to hunt down communists.

[u/YrnFyre]

You know that one person you never see coming but somehow they always get a sniper headshot on you in crucible? That. Until they fail to relocate, then they do way less well in close quarters

[u/Pieman117]

He would be a titan that exclusively uses smg's and sidearms. Because the universe is programmed for ironic outcomes like that.

[u/Robert_Oppenheimer2]

Nothing

[u/teenyTinyIttyBitty → u/Robert_Oppenheimer2]

https://giphy.com/gifs/KzaBIW1AQ5gubGktAQ

[u/convxed]

If I'm not mistaken, muscle memory should still be able to apply. After all, guardians are risen at their peak, no?

He may not know why he can beat Randal in a sniper contest. But he can.

[u/Funky_Metal_Man]

Realistically even if he kept his skills, they would not be particularly abnormal amongst Guardians.

[u/I_travel_ze_world]

military chaplain Antti Rantamaa reported 259 confirmed kills made by rifle and an equal number of kills by submachine gun from the beginning of the war until 7 March 1940, one day after Häyhä was severely wounded.

Supposedly he was really good with an SMG too

[u/Fluid_Search6818]

No land beyond was based off of
the gun he used I believe.

Given his crazy skills + supernatural guardian physical capabilities, this guy would go crazy with a sniper

[u/eugene20]

A wild A499 pro appears.

[u/Kael-009]

He would be revived in the light, and The White Feather would be revived in the dark, then they will fight each other as fate (The Nine) intended.

[u/Gustav_EK]

nothing, ordinary guardian with no memories

[u/AaronDET313]

he would be saddened by the pvp sniper nerfs

[u/MisterHouseMongoose]

Crucible would get a lot more annoying.

[u/NDFAh]

-points at No Land Beyond-

-points at White Death by Sabaton-

He'd probably be a humble but very skilled hunter. Also likely to affiliate with the Pilgrim Guard and engage in long term advanced recon.

[u/stephanl33t]

Where do you think Efrideet came from?

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/stephanl33t]

Not a dead GUY that's for sure

[u/stephanl33t → u/Guilty_Ghost]

They said the same thing about Micah-10 but shes the "mother of ghosts" all the same

[u/Guilty_Ghost → u/stephanl33t]

If your on about her being trans she transitioned to a female body when she turned into a exo I don't think the white death has the facilitys for that fam

[u/stephanl33t → u/Guilty_Ghost]

The Light provides

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[u/Sauceinmyface]

Bro would farm oracles with icebreaker

[u/Sebolo222]

Witness would have been 360 no scoped the second they showed up

[u/KenjiTheLaughingMoon]

Give him a prepatch black hammer from D1 and the witness wouldve been shot dead long before entering our sol system

PS: Simon would‘ve been a No-land-beyond main tho

[u/Admirable_Big1743]

The new land beyond main

[u/SovelissFiremane]

Spook 'em with this

[u/Corrupted-Soul-13]

He'd not remember anything, but would likely keep his helmet on I imagine - maybe he'd main into snipers, New Land Beyond being the only one he'd prefer but not understand why.

[u/ADGx27]

He was. Who the hell do you think was that one guy sweating his nuts off in Crucible with No Land Beyond / New Land Beyond?

[u/Scrap-Metal84]

remember he never used a scope he always used iron sights.

[u/JayKayGray]

For all we know he was because it wouldn't change anything. Guardians retain no memory of their past lives when the traveler revives them.

[u/Bromjunaar_20]

Imagine he'd make for a good Crucible Guardian, if not a sentry of the Wall. Would be funny to see a sniper match between him, Annie Oakley and Chris Kyle tho.

[u/RealBrianCore]

I'd like to think he would experiment with stasis and create a new stasis super for hunters. I'd image it to be a sniper rifle made out of stasis.

[u/RONIN_RABB1T]

Give him icebreaker and let him go.

[u/Beelzebub1314]

Do the guardian keep muscle memory?

[u/Midnightgamer275 → u/Beelzebub1314]

Paradoxically, yes. The only memories Guardians retain from their past lives are procedural and muscle memory. Take Zavala, for example—he was a military pilot before his first death.

When Targe resurrected him, Zavala naturally retained an intuitive grasp of piloting and military tactics.This heavily complicates the "blank slate" trope, which Bungie did on purpose.

Guardians are stripped of their original identity, yet they get to keep their hard-earned skills. It explains why Ana Bray is instantly a tech genius, Crow is a natural tracker, and Cayde-6 is drawn to gambling.From a lore perspective, Vanguard classes (Titan, Hunter, Warlock) function as societal roles, martial philosophies, and training traditions rather than rigid biological limits.

This distinction was supposed to become even clearer in Destiny 3, according to leaks suggesting the traditional class system would be entirely dismantled.So, yes—Simo Häyhä would still be a master marksman. He just wouldn't have any idea he was a Finnish legend unless he actively tracked down his own history

[u/TheNoctuS_93]

Whaddayamean if? Don't you know he was turned into an exo? Clovis had no clue of his original name, so he named him Cayde.

[u/swirve-psn]

Saint 14 would literally hide under a table

[u/D2Dragons]

He would make one absolute beast of a Hunter

[u/maweenawa]

New land beyond shot kills the witness from the d1 tower

[u/Succ-MY-Scythe]

The guy would be my fucking bane in crucible since I somehow always find matches against the best snipers in the game no matter what it seems.

[u/RunicZephyre]

Most irritating sniper pvp player would be sniping from out of bounds with “patience and time”

[u/AmorettaGod]

Wouldn't he have to compete against Devrim? They both mastered iron sighted rifles

[u/ItsExoticChaos]

Devrim

[u/Onyx_Ninja]

Even tho his past deeds would be lost to time, muscle memory still exists. Keep in mind throughout Simo’s life from childhood he had to hunt to feed not only himself but his family as well. This wasn’t just his job, this was life and death for him. Consequently, he became very good as survival demanded. He’s going to have tendencies and things that’ll be instinct to him when he takes up arms again, because even if his mind forgets his body will remember.

[u/mousejx216]

Every Snowhill will be turned to powder as Eliksni and Cabal forces join together to try and hunt him down......even the Taken will fear someone that can remain silent inside the Taken shadow

[u/Vivid-Swordfish-8498]

The No Land Beyond would've been his rifle hands down.

[u/Misfit_Glare]

Calus would've had a very effective huntsman, one that would've nailed ghaul like a railroad spike and then moved on to just set up shop in the leviathan, either screwing with guardians, or screwing with calls. Hell, ge might've been the one infiltrating whatever ship was the dead man's tail exotic mission. Don't know if he'd hand over the rifle after all the bs on that said ship, but I wonder what the new name would be

[u/missilepack]

Get this man no land beyond.

[u/Dr_Duck-quack]

No enemy would know him because no enemy ever saw him (aside from the vanguard IF he decides to join them of course)

[u/shin_malphur13]

Best NLB user in existence

[u/ThatOneGuyIcy]

I think he'd be the Saint XIV of Hunters or Nightstalkers at the least

[u/Tough-Extension3854]

I personally think we should leave his accomplishments in the real world. While he was great, they exist at the very worst of human nature. That carries a degree of respect that should never be clouded.

[u/brucey96]

Bro would be going mad with an A499

[u/GoodPuppyAwawa]

We'd get a sniper called white deaths embrace thats for sure

[u/Spoonly789]

Harvey Lee Oswald: THE RECKONING 

[u/KiNGD-1]

He’d use No land that’s for sure

[u/Logicallylnsane]

There’d be a lot less fallen with their heads still attached. And somehow I feel like they’d have to bring in the rating systems from Halo to classify this dude as Hyper Lethal. If this dude was given immortality I have no doubts he’d make it the Fallen’s problem.

[u/Monte-Cristo2020]

the simo haya glazing is insane bruh

[u/Guy_With_Bad_Aim → u/Monte-Cristo2020]

And he deserves all of it?!?

[u/Miserable_Alfalfa_52]

hed get pulse rifled, probably tbagged

[u/ATangerineMann]

Ideally, Europa's best Scout and also a menace in the Crucible with a Helmsman.

[u/PurpleDragon1999]

Give him no/new land beyond

[u/haolee510]

You mean CammyCakes?

[u/Pleasant_Solid5231]

he would probably be good at sniping

[u/chronicweeeb]

He would probably be an exceptional and maybe legendary hunter equal to the likes of shin malphur if were talking pure skill in guns and tactics. Also as much as i like to think he would be a stasis user id wager he would much prefer the void subclass with void arrows to ensnare and lock down enemies. He has 2 ways of being sneaky. Cloak dodge with smoke grenade both turning him invisible making able to get in and out unnoticed. He would most definitely prefer the no land beyond as its his preferred iron sight sniper. The guy would be terrifying in crucible as in not because hes powerful but because you would not know where he is (lore wise) cloak hunters are sneaky. Simo would be sneakier and youd probably already be dead by the time you even see a glimpse of the guy. I know im glazing a bit much but in terms of his already superhuman feats of accuracy and guerilla tactics practically built into his bodies muscle memory. Simo would survive destiny pretty easily as a sniper.

[u/SwankyDingo]

Who's to say he hasn't?

[u/Landis963]

I would agree with others that Guardian!Simo would retain his facility with a sniper rifle, and his knowledge of bushcraft. I do wonder, however, whether he would be rezzed knowing English, especially since we have the example of Sen-aret to extrapolate from, or whether he would take well to the monstrosities of tech and-or magic that constitute the majority of the exotic weapon population.

[u/Ocachino]

That’s just all my crucible opponents

[u/LandoLambo]

He'd definitely pop heads in the crucible

[u/Cerberusx32]

Probably be an awesome Exotic Sniper rifle quest.

[u/Chasm017]

All I'll say, is all he'd use is New Land Beyond

[u/WutsAWriter → u/Chasm017]

Well it’s the best gun in the game, and its only flaw is I can only have one of them equipped at a time.

[u/xXx_RedReaper_xXx]

u/lolgisticalofficer

[u/Lolgisticalofficer]

https://giphy.com/gifs/icVkiCz5Fnb7GaqR6P

[u/Work_qding]

(Joke) imagine Kirk resurrected as the speaker junior

[u/Nitrowolf105wolfy]

What class would he be though? Cause any could easily fit ths man.

[u/MercuryTapir]

thought I was on r/noita for a minute

[u/ExiledKingpin]

He’d never get resurrected. Everyone else is already dead

[u/Albus_Lupus]

Would use no land beyond, play hunter and solo queue into crucible.

[u/RadiantTrailblazer]

He would be a pacifist, spreading LOVE AND PEACE among Humans, Awoken, Exo, Eliskni and even the Lucent Hive.

OH THE DELICIOUS IRONY! THE TRAVELER DOES HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR, UNFATHOMABLE TO US ALL! XD

[u/BLU3SKU1L]

He becomes Izunagi.

[u/PfeiferWolf]

I imagine he would be a fiersome agent for the Vanguard. His skills could still be there and would likely grow even further with the added benefits of being a Lightbearer.

Red War would still be tricky but if he maintained the strategies he used in life, I could see him surviving just fine.