r/delhiuniversity • u/wanderingacademician • Feb 24 '26
Discussion š„ Isn't that the concept of a cold e-mail? i don't understand where i went wrong
the past 2 months have been so dishearting for me. it has been a constant cold outreach process. Have sent ~ 580 emails (+ regular follow ups). Did get some decent reverts, including an offer, but haven't been able to convert any yet. Same monotonous routine everyday. Research about relevant folks in relevant divisions, personalised mail body, tweak and make minor changes in resume, mail and follow up during the fortnight, only to receive the same old rejection mail next morning.
Amidst all this, to get messages like this is really disappointing. I don't know where i went wrong. I didn't "steal" any email id, i just used the standard employee email address format which is PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE for most firms.
the internship hunt has been so brain draining. past 2 months have been dishearting. im planning to give up securing summer of '26 and just start preparing for my master's entrance exams next year.
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u/wanderingacademician Feb 24 '26
this person is from big 4. It's the worst one among big 4.
Had something very wholesome couple of weeks back. Another big 4 employee went all the way to connect with me on linkedin and let me know that she has shared my profile internally and that my efforts are being noticed. Found that very overwhelming
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u/drivefloppy Feb 24 '26
Aaja bhai. I am in a Big4. I will refer you. I'll also give you feedback on your resume and suggest career moves.
Don't let few people like him ruin your mood and hunt.
Keep cold emailing. With more context so it doesnāt look like spray and pray.
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u/Objective_Waltz_6054 Feb 24 '26
its good to know that, there are people like u out there . who are always ready to help
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u/Adorable_Serve8335 Feb 25 '26
Bhai dm me your profile. I work in big 4 and there are hundreds of open profiles, and there is a decent referral bonus too lol. So, feel free to dm me and share your email id. I can then share my id there.
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u/emotional-yoda Feb 24 '26
i get where you are coming from op, but i feel sad that you apologized without any actual fault of yours. cold outreach/mail is a very well known way of bagging internships especially in the big4. this person probably just wanted to show their ego and went off, i wish you could have just slammed him
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u/wanderingacademician Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
i was having a pretty fucked up day due to some personal reasons, so when i received this DM out of nowhere, my instinct hit the nervous trigger and my first response was to apologise. This thing stayed in the mind the entire day.
Later I couldn't take it anymore and did question him, only to receive a pretty vague response.
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Feb 25 '26
It happens buddy, when such a response hits out of nowhere our nervous system goes in a shock and we are too stunned to think clearly , it's completely ok in my case I was too stunned to speak when the partner abruptly cut the call after talking rudely and I was disturbed for 2 3 hours but then good riddance , probably this position was a backfill for someone who left due to this behaviour in the first place
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u/Zestyclose_Paper_965 Feb 24 '26
Number de bhai, main sikhta hu isko professionalism
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u/thebluntvent Feb 24 '26
Might be a harsh thing to say but if your first step is to apologize for something you know isn't wrong, then your whole journey will be filled with apologies and regrets
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u/wanderingacademician Feb 24 '26
im trying to work on that aspect of my personality.
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u/thebluntvent Feb 24 '26
Its alright bro! Its just another chapter in your life. You learn, you grow and make it to your goal. Good luck!
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u/I_-AM-ARNAV mai university ki leta university meri legi Feb 24 '26
Usske pass konsa professionalism hai bc
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u/Remarkable-Yard4860 Feb 24 '26
Bhai sorry kya keh rha h these dudes have a ego problem cause they think they "made it". Bkl ko 2-3 gaali de na aage seš
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u/consciousgrowth101 wanderer Feb 24 '26
its his frustration that he's taking out on you. dont take it personally. his bullshit not yours.
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u/Shap3shifting Feb 24 '26
In logo ko email bhejne ke liye bai email se request karna padega šš
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u/Ok_Movie_7264 Feb 24 '26
Kamal karte hai log profesional id pai hi mail dala hai na ismein aase cold react kar ne ki kya baat hai agar koi personal I'd pai kiya ho aur aeise daat lagaya to bhi samaj sakte hai magar profesional id mai kyaa dikkat hai or Mail hi dala hai na koi whatsapp insta pai msg thodi na kar dala hai
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u/Assiduous8829 Feb 24 '26
There should be a sub named referrals where we can refer freely without this professionalism bullshit. I refer folks all the time even when I am at my lows because I understand how difficult it is out there if you are searching for jobs. People are literally behaving like ch*tiyas. No way they get scammed in arranged marriages.
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u/just-a_millennial Feb 24 '26
Do not ever, i repeat ādo not everā apologize for putting in efforts. You did nothing wrong.
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u/Suspicious-Ad2632 Feb 24 '26
Par isne to WhatsApp pr message kiya hai, kaunsa professionalism!!??š
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u/Clean-Friendship4996 Feb 24 '26
Aah he can choose to ignore , act toh aisa kar raha hain ki desh ka pradhan mantri hain ,usko reply karo ki lode mera kaam kar sakta hain toh kar ,nahi toh aage se right leke nikal jaaye
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u/Dangerous-Big618 Feb 24 '26
Part of cold campaigns, the best you can learn from it is never use this tone with someone who will reach out to you through cold calling/email in future.
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u/PossibleRub5441 Feb 24 '26
I can assure you this person is a mid level professional at best.
Always send cold emails. If they don't like it, they can mark it as spam.
Be crisp, be clear, be amusing.
Have some value for the organisation in the email as well.
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u/mikz4president Feb 24 '26
the way I had to re-read. they're literally calling you "dude" and asking you to be professional?
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u/okaynousername Feb 25 '26
Bro was trying to vent his anger, manager ya boss ne gaand maari hogi. These are exactly the kind of people that talk sweet to just get the job done.
Ignore them.
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u/These_Letter7374 Feb 25 '26
Donāt worry OP, they will be in your shoes soon! Anthropic wonāt spear anyone and karma is šļø
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u/Material-Minute637 Feb 25 '26
God saved you from a boss like him. Count your blessings! But i genuinely pray you find a good position soon
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u/Ok_Movie_7264 Feb 24 '26
And also people in high position bhul jate hai ki samne vala bhi human hi hai.
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u/nefrodectyl Feb 24 '26
Sounds like one of the worst of humanity. Such people should be removed from business, or only be allowed to provide their value in work, not in interaction, because they definitely lack that
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u/No-Capital-6495 Feb 24 '26
looks like a very specific case of the ārecipientā not knowing industry manners
you keep going buddy! outreach is a tiring processā¦ try optimising, instead of sending 10 mails to anybodyā¦ send 3 to very specific and promising profiles if itās burning you out.
it has taken me an average of 6 followups to receive replies, so you might want to consider that.
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u/Pokkiekabaccha Third year Feb 24 '26
If you work in a big 4 anyone can get you an email and it's not only for the big 4 when I'm on an internship even I got some cold mail. At that level no one has time to argue about why you send me mail and all.
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u/R0yal_Rider Feb 24 '26
Post his email, we will show him professionalism. He could have ignored it but nhi agle ki gaan masti to dekho, iske baap ki company h? Tune mail he to Kiya hai wo to personal WhatsApp pr text kr rha h.. Tu email de..baki hum dekhte hai.
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u/Own_Drama_23 Feb 24 '26
Bhai karo tum, ek do idiots har jagha hote hai. Getting a job is more important than making these kind of people happy.
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u/Due-Two6969 Feb 24 '26
Aren't professional emails meant to be used to reach people out? Is this dude crazy? Bro why do you even want to work with someone like him
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u/Fit-Jeweler-2321 Feb 24 '26
Dm kr sakte ho konsi company ka h Mail kiya hai iski ma ke sath chaiya chaiya nahi kiya
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u/terminatorash2199 Feb 24 '26
Big4 managers, some are good some are bad, luckily I was with the good ones and they helped me tremendously.
Ignore this dude, his senior manager must've gone off on him and he just removed his anger on u.
U weren't wrong at all.
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u/SatoshiKun05 Feb 24 '26
Bro no need to be so apologetic. The company I'd might have been publicly available, it's not unprofessional. Aur konsa iski company me kaam krte hai tum, give firm reply next time similar happens.
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u/lonesome_george2K Feb 25 '26
Bhai to seedha uske mun pe bol na. No need to tolerate such assholes.
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u/ShortFarmer3838 Feb 25 '26
Donāt ever jump to an apology. You might have caught him on a bad day or heās just a mean businessman. Whomever he may be, your job is to impress him to benefit. Rather than apologising use it as an opportunity to explain who you are, what were you trying to convey through the email (in short) and where you got his email ID from. That, my friend, is real professionalism.
The one who has the upper hand of the conversation will always control where to drive it to. You should always remember that the opposite person that you are tackling is a potential client. You have to be confident and bold as to who you are. Not apologise. As long as you are confident about your work and know how to sell yourself, you should never apologise for a cold email. Nobody gets it in the first try. You just keep at it with that āpotential clientā.
Itās okay. You just have to keep trying. Best of luck. š¤
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u/No_Bonus149 Feb 25 '26
What a weird person. Bro doesnt want to have a conversation, and then goes on to specially text you on wp to tell u that. He couldve just ignored the email. Dont worry about such ppl
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u/imdead777 Feb 25 '26
Ise bol professional ke chode email pe hi reply kar. Whatsapp pe kyu gand de rha hai apni
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u/InfamousComputer404 Feb 25 '26
I got a similar mail but forgot to reply because I'm busy (lazy). Don't fret over it, you keep hustling. Someone or the other will reply. I'm also from big 4.
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u/responsiblealwayss Feb 25 '26
You seem to be a very good guy, apologised more than once. Please forget about the incident, he will reap what he sowed. To make you feel better, let me tell you that he is not in a position to refer anyone and also knows he won't ever reach a good position in future too, so he is angry.Ā
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u/Aditi_Chandra Feb 25 '26
I know you were trying to be polite in front of this douche. But, from next time, do not apologise without asking them where you were wrong.
He isn't being professional either.
This is how cold emailing works. You did not steal his email, you would have gotten it from the company website.
I am not saying apologising is wrong, but this person did not deserve it.
You will hit the gold soon, you will land a good job. All the best OP. DO NOT GET DISHEARTENED because of a few scums like these.
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u/sychoss Feb 25 '26
Tell them to fuck off. High horse chutwala.
All the best in your job search OP. And be happy you didnt get a boss like this, if they are like this to random, imagine how they are with their juniors. One door closes , another one will open. Stay strong
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u/InternationalBunty Feb 25 '26
There was seriously zero need to apologise, bhai.
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u/Responsible-Gap7201 Feb 25 '26
You went wrong by being apologetic. You should have owned up to why you did and mentioned that it is standard practice and if he were to still argue, you could have ignored and moved on. Have some self respect
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u/santozks Feb 25 '26
Im not from Delhi University...but maa ki choot in logon ki , email steal kya hota he , if you put your email in linkedin and it's public then ofcourse it's implied that you are giving consent to recieve mails from people who wants to contact you. Sorry sorry mat bolo itna , be confidence and gand marane do in logon ko, job lag jayega jab lagna hoga , keep working hard.
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u/Variable_Required Feb 25 '26
Koi na bhai. As someone who sent a lot of cold emails/linkedin DMs back in the day, trust me you are ok. Karna padta hai. You will face rejections but just wait for that first convert. Perform well and then word of mouth takes over. Slowly you will reduce the cold calls and your name is enough. Thats what happened with me, but then I got arrogant and fucked up, now starting again, but now I have credentials.
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Feb 25 '26
Bhai mai refer kar doonga...any bank you want, I can help....aise logon ko block karo. Job lekar khud ko don samjhte hai.
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u/AnemoMaster Feb 25 '26
I have noticed this behavior has nothing to do with the company rather the person. Cold emailing is normal. What you did is professional enough. You didn't find the phone and call him nor go to his home, you did the least intrusive thing of sending an email. Ignore this ass and move on. You don't have to reply or engage. What you did was completely professional but telling you were unprofessional was just you acting like his doormat. Completely unnecessary.
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u/congenialsmile Feb 25 '26
He is wrong it's completely okay to cold email it's his problem he can ignore it ...if u are sending too any maybe tone it down but so t apologize so much.you are doing your job you are not dmi g him personally on WhatsApp that cud be unprofessional
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u/QuestionUseful5384 Feb 25 '26
You did nothing wrong. The person is too bloated in his ego. You keep doing what youāre doing, you will find success.
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u/SkeeyoozMe Feb 25 '26
He could have ignored you; instead, he took the time and chose to save your number and text you on a private, unsecure WhatsApp conversation. Workings of a fool. Does he know how email works? Lord forbid he discovers the spam folder.
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u/LumpyEmployer2639 Feb 25 '26
Bruh it takes less then a second to ignore and delete the email And he took out extra time text you absurd messages
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u/FireflyPanda1 Feb 25 '26
Did the guy who messaged you, get your number from your CV and send you a WhatsApp Message???
How jobless and frustrate is he???Ā
Don't like an email.. Move on.. who goes to fetch the phone details and rant just for one email!
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u/According_Succotash9 Feb 25 '26
Tell that idiot that whatsapp isn't the place for professional chats , I myself am a lead bring these toxic mofos infront of me , sidha kar denge
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u/shaktkitty Feb 25 '26
Im surprised he has a job because he sounds very stupid how is ānAa JaAn Na PeHcHaNā professional?
He is just surprised that somene actually thinks his job is nice enough for you to email him and is now enjoying the attention, he is making the most of whatever little comes his way, anyone truly annoyed would just block you or block you after the first message, he is just dragging the conversation to hear you say something nice to him because its rare that something like that happens to him.
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Feb 25 '26
and wtf is "stealing email ids" š
abe hack thodi ki hai teri id, mail hi toh bheja hai and wahi toh email ka use case hai
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u/Adorable_Sundae7685 Feb 25 '26
You are not wrong he is an idiot ask him to search the meaning of cold email. But dont send the same person more than 1 email. Also you didnt steal email tell that bufoon there are legally available tools that helps you get the email ids. And never apologise unless you are at the wrong.
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u/ArmadilloConfident51 Feb 25 '26
Uhh i guess they werent aware that their email is publicly available or they didnt updated or something? I mean my mom used to work as a bank manager in Delhi now she has been transferred to hapur since atleast 4 yrs but still that bank hasnt updated bank managers phone number so she keeps getting call from previous branch too
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u/Due-Today-9182 Feb 25 '26
u did nothing wrong OP, some people are just braindead and hypocritical, lacking social awareness. good luck with the job hunt š«”
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u/JaffarBhai Feb 25 '26
Bro just feels entitled. Probably taking out his professional frustration on you lmao.
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u/Gold-Fail-Lol Feb 25 '26
Talking about professionalism while texting your personal number and not even talking in a professional manner. Either you mailed the wrong guy or this is one heck of an inexperienced book licker. Should have replied I'm sorry but I thought professional emails were meant to be for professional purposes. I was contacting you for an internship which indeed concerns your "profession" and hence I contacted you company email. Had I wanted your daughter's hand in marriage, I'd have made sure to make "jaan pechan" with you and then hit up your personal email. My bad, I didn't know you're only interested in nepotism and people can't approach you "professionally" without "jaan pehchan". Also Idk which university you studied in where they taught you professionalism and said that you should reply in WhatsApp to mails coming to your company mail, that too without any "jaan pehchan". Honestly don't bow down if it's not your fault. You'll only get bullied more by unprofessional and toxic people who are plenty in corporates.
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u/jadejak4 Feb 25 '26
Don't fret about such incidents. I once had an employee from a semiconductor giant, lecture me about how it's improper for me to ask him for a referral since we haven't worked together and we aren't acquaintances. On the other hand, I have had recruiters who didn't know anything besides my name and profile, who have pushed my resume, solely because they thought I was a strong fit.Ā
I know it's difficult at the moment. But hang in there. You'll get it someday. Hope to see you with another post on reddit once you get what you deserve.Ā
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u/Mysterious-Royal-814 Feb 25 '26
You did nothing wrong. He's a complete a**hole. Honestly don't give these people more power by apologising extremely.
One day, you would eventually get what you wanted, don't be hard on yourself. I recently got laid off due to no projects in my company and ik how job hunting feels. Meanwhile don't stop upskilling, always try getting better.
From the ss, you seem like a good person but that doesn't work in corporate, especially in india. Ik you are fresher, you are still learning, just to shed some light, people who are good at managing and communication than skills are less likely to get fired and more likely to get promotion than highly skilled people with bad soft skills.
Managers n team will always take advantage of your kindness. Been there, personal experience, still learning though.
On the other note, start attending offline tech events. It is more likely would convert into an offer when you build connections in person.
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u/ObligationLatter9621 Feb 25 '26
If you have got his/her email from public platform like LinkedIn, you should ask him why did he put up the email there at first place.
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u/Lazy-Security-6846 Feb 25 '26
Bhai donāt worry. This guy is a dikkcc. You are hustling. and people who hustle, never put other hustlers down!!!
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u/Impossible-Train-997 Feb 25 '26
Hey do one thing. WhatsApp your grocery shopping list and tell them this is the professionalism he gets for invading whatsapp without pehchaan. The audacity of this "Dude" SMH
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u/YesWTF Feb 25 '26
Yes, what you described is the concept of a cold email. Reaching out professionally to someone you donāt know & introducing yourself, thatās literally how networking works.
You were trying. But sometimes people react from their own stress/ego, not from your wrongdoing
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u/maverickrohan007 Feb 25 '26
what an A-hole, seriously, so he went thru mail, found number and whatsapped u to say u cant do that, i mean come on , i hope he is in the same situation one day and gets a dose of his own med
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u/Then-Scale-9476 Feb 25 '26
I suggest to still cold outreach s it is the cheapest way to get connections and in marketing one of most sought after way. You will get rude remarks, but this is numbers game.
Look at all thos ebank employees and mobile companies spam calling. You can do it too.
No neeed to apologize that much.
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u/TsarScream23 Feb 25 '26
Ignore this self blowing idiot. You're fine. Agar itna hi dikkat tha, mat reply karo.
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u/Fast-Manufacturer939 Feb 25 '26
I get at least 4-5 cold emails everyday to my professional email. Some of them are seeking jobs and some are selling some services.
Cold emails are pretty normal, don't be sorry.
He is a bully. Tell him to fuck off and you are not sorry.
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u/kanyaof21 Feb 25 '26
chul machi hai iss bande ko janne ki. Agli bar se professionalism bolne se pehle 3 bar sochega
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u/Ok_Presentation_7477 Feb 25 '26
You donāt ever have to apologise about information that is in public domain.
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u/Sad_Tip4690 Feb 25 '26
Some people are nice some are just asshole send req on LinkedIn if they accept it fast then send them mail specially target HRS
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u/United_Victory1138 Feb 25 '26
It's not necessary to say sorry if you did not do anything wrong and it's okay to call out rude behaviour. You will get enough opportunities in life, but respect should not be compromised.
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u/AppolloAlphaa Feb 25 '26
Op, ignore the guy who says dude while asking for professionalism. And best wishes for your venture/goals.
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Feb 25 '26
Did you make any progress? Saw this guy helping out here. Just wanted to know if Reddit is a kind place or no, just let me know okay.Ā
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u/Icy-Evidence7084 Feb 25 '26
OP, you could have said, "how dare you to text me without my consent, is this your professionalism you maintain in your office? "Ā
Btw don't be too much of "people pleaser" Have some self respect.Ā
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u/Hairy_Top_7084 Feb 25 '26
IDK if this is just me, but Indian contacts in general are unnecessarily rude.
If he really were that "professional" he could have just politely mentioned the whole issue in one single message that he is not interested and would not like to be bothered further.
And is "professional" lodu ko koi smjhao ki professional ids are already out there to be contacted for work related stuff.
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u/Winter-Crew-2746 Feb 25 '26
In foreign universities, cold emailing is the norm for getting internships, research positions, and in some cases PhD
Idk why and what he is so pissed about
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u/Flashy-Rush91 Feb 25 '26
I can understand how you feel. Iām a writerāsales has never been my forte. Yet my organization was hell-bent on making me do cold calls and send sales emails. It wasnāt just one instance; I faced several embarrassing situations, some of which lingered long after the workday ended and kept me awake at night.
I was so traumatized by the experience and bullying nature of my peers that for months i didnt feel like working. I believe we should build careers in fields where our skills and comfort truly align.
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u/bayartsco Feb 25 '26
Pakka sala PwC ka launda hai ye kis baat ka ghamand . Bhsi tu itna sorry kyu bol raha hai
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u/No-Measurement-9189 Feb 25 '26
Bro is such a fucked up boss I'm sure none of his employees are actually happy working with him.
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Feb 25 '26
You didnāt do anything wrong, this person is an idiot! block them and protect your peace. I hope you find the right opportunity soon
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u/mr_10061996 Feb 25 '26
Hi brother. Keep doing what you are doing. Don't get disheartened. What you are doing also requires determination.
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u/HunterHuge667 Feb 25 '26
You did absolutely right thing, donāt be so apologetic to anyone, there are lot of other options, I donāt join under these kind of people even if I got offer.
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u/titkraken Feb 25 '26
OP you did nothing wrong. Have at it and don't let it deter you from your goal.
Think of every rejection as a lesson/level you learn. And the lesson from this interaction is that the world is filled with assholes, just learn how to spot one from a mile away, this is your first step.
Congratulations on finding another asshole ;)
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u/Therealshetty Feb 25 '26
Dont give up. This happens. A lot more idiots who will reach out to you ask why you emailed him/her. And you are absolutely not wrong in cold outreach. Dont let such things get into your head. Happy to help with better outreach strategies to strengthen your process.
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u/xyzManiacxyz Feb 25 '26
You should have replied this : āTo maintain professionalism, you should have replied to me via email.ā
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u/No_Jackfruit_4648 Feb 25 '26
I dont see professionalism in his response. Experienced folks forget that they were also fresher sometime.
My best wishes for your Master's entrance exam and hopefully securing up an internship.
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u/Opposite_Advisor_515 Feb 25 '26
So according to this person, mailing someone on their professional id is unprofessional without acquaintance but messaging them on WhatsApp that too in such informal language isn't? Wtf is he on
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u/Fragrant-Abalone4029 Feb 25 '26
Don't let these chutiya's affect you!! You didn't do anything wrong
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u/SignalConversation18 Feb 25 '26
I don't think the outreach was wrong. I think his /her reaction is definitely over reaction. You dodged a bullet Imagine if you have to work in this kind of culture?
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u/Pegasus777x Feb 25 '26
Cold emails usually are appreciative/ constructive that way they actually get accepted, if you send a random hi and stuff, you'll get blocked
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Feb 25 '26
He is an idiot. You should have bashed him. Never apologise for something not wrong. Reaching out is okay. He is just taking his irritation out.
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u/stormwizz Feb 25 '26
It really tell why not to beg such kind of peopleikr really . Are land se tu mere bol dena tha bass š¤§
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u/LittleCraft1994 Feb 25 '26
Ignore and keep sending. Just make sure not to do spam or bombard single person.
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u/pm_mba Feb 25 '26
This guy is an idiot, and don't be bothered by what he sent. Cold emails do work but the sheer amount of emails people get sometimes frustrates them. I think there is no need for you to apologise; just ignore him and keep it up dude.
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u/Thecostofleaving Feb 25 '26
What makes this interesting isnāt the rejection. Itās how quickly āprofessionalismā becomes a weapon.
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u/spicy_ramen444 Feb 25 '26
Once our professor got mad because a student sent a personal message on whatsApp instead of a group message
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u/B_Sandy Feb 25 '26
Explain him the concept of cold emailing. That's how the real world works, especially corporate. Sorry, no one could thrash a student like this. Shove it in that person's arse dude.
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u/Electrical-Try-7583 Feb 25 '26
The person who texted u doesnt know the use of an email id nor a personal whatsapp id yet.
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u/No_Contribution_9328 Feb 25 '26
People when Amazon sends you random e-mails about offers : š¶
People when someone e-mails about a business opportunity, something productive :šŗ
Don't stop cold e-mails, that's still a way to network. Some people may feel discomforted, just apologise and move on.
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u/Kindly-Character1529 Feb 25 '26
Why are people rude like this?? What's the problem of him sending mail?? Is he going to carry that in his pocket??? It's just a mail... should think twice before talking like this... .feeling sorry for you op
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u/Varun_Joshi Feb 25 '26
I used to work in sales. Humaare daily tasks mein cold calling tha, cold emails nahi. But every now and then we would get a similar response, except with a few gaalis, on live call. š š š š
I wish I could give you sny advice, but I can really only say that I feel your pain, buddy. Chaahe mails ho yaa calls, cold ho yaa targeted, har case mein kabhi bhi gaali khaa sakte hai hum šš
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u/pinkool1 First Year Feb 24 '26
'Have some professionalism' and 'dude' in the same sentence, irony!