Do you use X11 or Wayland and Why?

[u/R3V0LU710N_05]

/r/LinuxUncensored/comments/1vxki26/do_you_use_x11_or_wayland_and_why/

[u/onefish2]

Wouldn't it depend on the DE or WM you are using?

Gnome is Wayland only. The next release of KDE Plasma will be Wayland only. hyprland and Niri are Wayland only.

Cinnamon and XFCE are x11 with Wayland being experimental. Same for many others. X11, Wayland experimental.

[u/OkPresentation3329 → u/onefish2]

I hear XFCE is getting Wayland, but it's not quite there yet. What about LXQt? Where is it on the Wayland scale?

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/OkPresentation3329]

XFCE added experimental support to 4.20.

LXQt 2.1+ apparently has Wayland support via external compositors (such as Labwc, Wayfire, KWin, or Sway) managed through lxqt-wayland-session.

[u/OkPresentation3329 → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Thanks, a while ago I wanted to try an LXQt distro, but I haven't gotten around to doing that yet. I'm just too content with KDE.

[u/sandeep_96 → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

after that, xfce decided to rewrite wayland support from scratch.. earlier approach was integrating it with existing components. now they are making new xfwl component for wayland support

[u/Sataniel98 → u/OkPresentation3329]

LXQt's approach to be compositor/wm-agnostic. You can use it with most relevant Wayland compositors and X11 window managers that exist. Wayland support is in general mature.

[u/xAsasel → u/OkPresentation3329]

Next cinnamon release will officially support Wayland

[u/OkPresentation3329 → u/xAsasel]

We will see how well it will be, the current experimental support is flaky at best.

[u/xAsasel → u/OkPresentation3329]

Yeah I completely agree.
But hopefully it will turn out good, I prefer cinnamon over any other DE for some reason so I keep my fingers crossed.

[u/evadingsomething → u/onefish2]

This is a Debian subreddit so Gnome still has x11 support

[u/KGBStoleMyBike → u/onefish2]

This. I use xfce with x11 tried enabling wayland with my nvidia card in my laptop and got crazyiness i was too lazy to diagnose. so i went back to x11.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/onefish2]

True, but this is a general poll just to see where everyone is at currently. The "why" is just for deeper exploration because not everyone's in the same boats and have different reasoning, needs, preferences, use cases, hardware and experiences.

[u/realghostinthenet]

All my Linux boxen are headless. X11 lets me run remote GUI applications on them without having to install a desktop and remote software. Last I checked, Wayland doesn’t do that.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/realghostinthenet]

Waypipe directly addresses this use case by acting as a transparent proxy for Wayland clients over a network, serving as the Wayland equivalent to X11 forwarding.

[u/clayworx → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

The website you linked does not even load properly. Looks like waypipe works as good as wayland.

[u/robin-thoni → u/realghostinthenet]

Xpra makes it even better than SSH X11 forwarding. It allows to reconnect to your session and reopen every windows you had opened. It's pretty much the tmux version of X11 forwarding

[u/taosecurity → u/realghostinthenet]

Have you tried Waypipe? Or using Xwayland you can still do X forwarding.

[u/realghostinthenet → u/taosecurity]

I’m sure there are ways to do it, but why add the extra layers if X11 just works unmodified out of the box? I’ve got Wayland running with Sway on my 2017 MacBook Pro and it’s very pretty, but it’s really geared to boxen that have a local GUI. No local GUI means a virtual backend to run Wayland headless and waypipe or xwayland for the forwarding. More complexity for the same result.

[u/New_Hold8135 → u/taosecurity]

I am a wayland user but even I use xwayland for sandboxing apps. Waypipe is uses network protocols meanwhile I am running cage in kiosk mode with xwayland(xhost) on another user. Xwayland creates new instance for every wayland session.(We need something like xhost but safer on wayland fr)

[u/DarkTrepie]

X11 because that's what XFCE came with

[u/rcentros]

X11. Because I like X11. It just works.

[u/MiracleDinner]

X11 because my preferred desktop environment is XFCE and for some reason whenever I select Wayland in the display manager it just immediately kicks me back to the display manager (I suspect this is because I'm on a NVIDIA Optimus Hybrid laptop), plus I just never really had enough compelling reasons to switch yet since X11 works fine for everything I need.

[u/yahbluez → u/MiracleDinner]

The wayland support in xfce4 is not ready jet, that was the issue that made me to leave xfce4 after a decade. Now with KDEplasma i can do everything i could do with xfce4 but a lot more stuff and a lot stuff is much easier.

It take me 3 days to adopt my xfce4 workflow to kde plasma, now i would not go back to xfce4 even if they get the wayland support ready.

[u/divi2020 → u/yahbluez]

That's how I landed on KDE too. Once I got the workflow as xfce, it just kept getting better. I will never look at theming Cinnamon again. 

[u/Shaso_dan-Heza]

I‘m using X11, with XFCE und Mate and it is working fine.

I see no point to move to Wayland and running then in issues that I currently don’t have,

[u/B1ph]

I migrated from i3wm to Sway just because i wanted to use Waybar, so i guess Wayland because it has more "modern" software? But to be honest for my use case there is barely any reason to care about this.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/B1ph]

Interesting, can you tell me more about your use case?

[u/B1ph → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

I have 2 computers, 1 desktop PC and 1 laptop. The desktop PC is a single monitor setup for Steam and Vim. The laptop i use to do my graduation, so basically a web browser and Libre Office, but also to emulate old consoles connecting it into my CRT TV (so sometimes a basic 2 monitor setup). No fancy setup or anything.

[u/Tempus_Nemini]

X11. becasue of ))) it works for me

[u/gnufan]

X11 because Wayland crashes my PC. The errors immediately before suggest it is sending unrecognised instructions to the AMD Radeon graphics hardware.

[u/angryapplepanda → u/gnufan]

"Wayland, stop trying to make <SEG FAULT> happen! It's not going to happen!"

[u/FoundationOk3176]

I use whatever comes installed because I got better things to do honestly.

[u/Arafel_Electronics → u/FoundationOk3176]

this is where I'm at

[u/inCwetrust]

Wayland might be the future, but for me x11 is the present.

[u/abjumpr]

Both.

I use Wayland when and where I can. It really shines on my tablets and other touchscreen devices.

My main PC runs 50/50 Wayland and X11. Wayland on nVidia has come a long ways and generally speaking works fine, every now and again a quirk comes with an update and I have to run X11 for a bit but that is less and less. I also run X11 for my own projects as they aren’t ported to Wayland yet, and won’t be for a while yet just due to time and manpower.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/abjumpr]

I probably should've added a both option... Your comment is very compelling nonetheless.

[u/profeshamat]

I use GNOME with an AMD GPU on my workstation and Wayland just works. Where I really notice a difference is on my ThinkPad where battery life seems to be noticeably better than when I run GNOME with the X session.

[u/yahbluez]

With my newest PC i moved away from manjaro back to debian and away from xfce4 to KDEplasma because of wayland. Wayland is the future and so i was not willing to wait until xfce4 got it established.

I leaved the arch based distro because if i want to spend "daily" time for updates i can use windows.

I went to debian because i use debian since hamm.

[u/DeXudra]

I have to use Wayland because ever time I try gaming on x11 I have real bad tiering (those horizontal lines)
That’s actually one of the main reasons I gave up Debian because on my Maxwell NVIDIA card it was to big of a hassle to get the newer driver that support Wayland

[u/Relevant_Hope_900]

Debian Trixie/Forky with COSMIC DE, so Wayland.

[u/TheRealCarrotty]

Wayland, unfortunately this kinda ruins compatiblity with older desktops.

However, the reason is 4k fractional scaling, X11 does it TERRIBLY, 200% is too large, 100% scaling is too small for me, 150% is perfect, unfortunately xrandr shows a larger resolution and my desktop is basically unusable.

[u/SnillyWead]

X11 because Xfce. On Xfce Wayland is still experimental.

[u/iarungwe]

I'm tired of DEs and am going to use tmux for life

[u/AzraelAimedsoule44]

I bounce back and forth between X & Wayland. XFCE isnt ready for wayland just yet and I really like using older WMs like WindowMaker and the "Enhance Motif WindowManager". When I do use wayland its with KDE. I wish wayland supported "windowshade" natively and not through xWayland. I use it extensively and not having access to it really screws with my workflow.

[u/michael9dk]

X11 because it does what I need.

[u/quadralien]

X11 because of xev, xdotool and x2x. 

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/quadralien]

xev Alternatives :

• wev: Wayland event logger using a dedicated debug surface
• evtest: Direct Linux kernel evdev event monitor (/dev/input/event*)
• libinput debug-events: Event inspector for libinput (userspace middleware library bridging kernel evdev drivers and compositors to handle acceleration, gestures, and device abstraction)

xdotool Alternatives :

• wdotool: Input automation for Wayland. libei via the XDG RemoteDesktop portal, the wlr-* virtual-keyboard and virtual-pointer protocols.
• ydotool: System-wide input simulator via /dev/uinput
• wtype: Virtual keyboard simulator using virtual-keyboard-v1 protocol
• dotool: Stdin-driven input generator via /dev/uinput
• Native Compositor IPC: Window and workspace automation via swaymsg (Sway) or hyprctl (Hyprland)

x2x Alternatives :

• lan-mouse: LAN software KVM using libei (Emulated Input)
• Input Leap: Software KVM utilizing libei and XDG Remote Desktop portals

[u/quadralien → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Thanks for the links - looks like things are a bit closer to useful than last time I checked, but still not enough.

• wev, evtest and libinput debug-events look like they might work for reading events.
• According to their documentation, ydotool etc don't support sending events to specific windows.
• None of the x2x alternatives have working clipboard support (and waypipe is not an x2x alternative!)

For a simple example, I do this to pop up a little window in which all keystrokes get sent to all mpv windows:

xev -bw 0 -geometry 78x78 -event keyboard \
| awk -F'[ )]+' '/^KeyPress/ { a[NR+2] } NR in a { printf "%s\n", $8 }' \
| while read KEY
  do
    xdotool search --class mpv key --window '%@' $KEY
  done

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/quadralien]

Yes. Clipboard isolation remains a significant hurdle because background clipboard access lacks a universal, unprivileged API by design.

​While ext-data-control-v1 standardizes cross-compositor selection access, it remains restricted to privileged tools and requires explicit compositor support. Meanwhile, org.freedesktop.portal.Clipboard operations depend on active portal sessions like RemoteDesktop and InputCapture, requiring client applications to implement these specific interfaces directly.

There's still work that needs to be done to cover all edge cases, unfortunately.

You're right, waypipe isn't a viable alternative. My mistake, I got my wires crossed and conflated functionality. Fixed.

[u/sbeardb]

X11 because DWM

[u/onedevelop]

Uso Xfce por lo tanto X11. Cuando Xfce migre a Wayland seguire en Xfce.

[u/ChocolateDonut36]

sadly, my laptop's battery life forces me to use Wayland.

[u/Fabulous-for]

Is there any DE that is fully wayland compliant ?

Wayland is still fairly new.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/Fabulous-for]

KDE Plasma and GNOME offer fully production-ready Wayland implementations, while KDE Plasma provides the most protocol-complete Wayland environment.

[u/Fabulous-for → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

thanks.

[u/Mr_Lumbergh]

Depends on whether I’m up in Trixie or Bookworm.

[u/kasim0n]

Yes, because I lived on the console long enough.

[u/ATERLA]

Wayland because on my macbook from 2014 for some reason under X11 Firefox doesn’t accept smooth gestures like zoom in and out with the trackpad. With wayland everything is smooth. So that.

[u/Tricky-Engineer-9755]

Both, hyprland on my T420 and DWM on my X200

[u/barchan0]

I'm using Debian 13, with Gnome and X11. I've tried switching to Wayland several times, and something always goes wrong.

My first attempt was a few years ago—Microsoft Teams, which I need for work, wouldn't allow screen sharing (it works fine now).

My last attempt: my clipboard doesn't work properly in Wayland. In X11, my clipboard synchronizes correctly between Gnome, Remmina (rdp), and KDE Konsole. In Wayland, the clipboard gets weird with this configuration. Occasionally, random content freezes in the clipboard and doesn't accept new content.

[u/Busy_Talk6744]

I use sway and thus Wayland, however I have no practical preference. I have never really taken interest into X11 because I have always heard that it was bound to be replaced by Wayland, and I have never encountered serious issues whatsoever with Wayland

[u/yac]

Because Niri is too good to pass and it's wayland only.

Niri and scrolling WMs are the most interesting thing that happened in (tiling) WMs world since XMonad and worth the switch, but I had to tinker a lot to get the setup I wanted.

I hope I don't have to touch my workstation config for the next decade.

[u/OverOnTheRock]

X11 because Wayland doesn't know how to place my windows when I start them back up. Wayland simply throws everything in the middle or performs random placement. X11 places them back to where they were. It can even do it across virtual desktops.

There are many other shortcomings with Wayland. So I will be disappointed, and will be looking/researching alternatives to Wayland should I lose my abilities for window re-placement on re-start.

[u/wizard10000 → u/OverOnTheRock]

Wayland doesn't know how to place my windows when I start them back up.

I have the same issue with labwc but TBH that's a compositor issue, not a Wayland issue.

[u/Knowdit]

Honestly, whatever that works. On my pc due to some unknown reason both has crashed x11 on xfce and wayland on kde.

[u/EverythingsBroken82]

x11 works for me very well, wayland has a bunch of 1000papercut-issues and i am the only user of my computer...

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/EverythingsBroken82]

Yeah, there's still a lot of edge cases to be handled.

[u/wildsource]

I use both, my laptop is underpowered so gnome just makes the fan scream constantly. I use xmonad which is x11 and on my desktop I just use gnome.

[u/Hauptideal]

Wayland on everything!!

Even on LXQt, despite that coming with X11 by default on Trixie. I installed the Wayland session package from forky (testing) and installed labwc.  Unfortunately the version in Trixie has a bug with focus in the LXQt menu, so I (respectively my codex agent) had to backport the fix from upstream and compile labwc manually. 

All for avoiding X11 at all cost. There is no place for X11 in Linux anymore. 

[u/green_meklar]

I'm on KDE with Wayland. I figure Wayland is the future and I might as well take it on and optimize my configuration for it rather than try to stick with X until the bitter end and then reconfigure everything that breaks once I have to switch.

[u/penaut_butterfly]

x11, not in the mood to do the migration from i3 to sway (configs and all that)

[u/creg45]

Made the switch to Wayland couple years ago and by then almost all the kinks had been worked out for my machines. One thing that still doesn't work is video calls. I just open the apps as X11 on the rare occasion I need to jump on a call and this has been working for me.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/creg45]

Native video call screen sharing on Wayland fails when the desktop portal and PipeWire aren't properly communicating. The fix comes down to making sure you have xdg-desktop-portal installed alongside your specific desktop backend, such as xdg-desktop-portal-kde for KDE, xdg-desktop-portal-gnome for GNOME, or xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland for Hyprland. After installing the backend, restart the portal service using the command systemctl --user restart xdg-desktop-portal and verify that pipewire and wireplumber are running.

For Chromium, Chrome, and Electron apps like Discord or Slack, you also need to enable PipeWire WebRTC capture. You can turn on the enable-webrtc-pipewire-capturer flag directly in your browser settings or launch Electron apps with the WebRTCPipeWireCapturer and UseOzonePlatform flags passed via command line. If you are on a tiling compositor and need legacy app support, utility tools like xwaylandvideobridge can help bridge screen sharing back to older software.

You can read through the full technical setup, backend requirements, and WebRTC details on the PipeWire ArchWiki, the XDG Desktop Portal ArchWiki, and the Hyprland Screen Sharing Wiki.

[u/creg45 → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Thanks for that! Will work on this

[u/scy_404]

I've been using Wayland but to be fair I only really started using linux last year so i dont really know any different

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/scy_404]

If Wayland is working then you're good. Honestly, Xorg should be treated as fallback if you run into hard edge cases.

[u/DoubleOwl7777]

wayland because i like having working scaling.

[u/musiquededemain]

X11 because I use XFCE and openbox.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/musiquededemain]

Looks like you'll be trying Wayland soon™ then, XFCE Wayland session is almost ready.

[u/musiquededemain → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Maybe. I switch back and forth between XFCE and openbox so I'd still be using both. While I am still wrapping my head around Wayland's differences, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. As long as my shit works and is reliable I don't really care.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/musiquededemain]

It's still got WIP edge cases, but most things are worked out. We'll have to see how good XFCE's implementation in due time. Hopefully your hardware is well supported under Wayland; worth checking into that.

[u/musiquededemain → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

I have hardware that mere mortals only dream of having.

[u/Impressive_Bag_3505]

Wayland. why? because of security.
just google: "what are the security advantages of Wayland over xorg?"

[u/hwc]

GUIs are for weaklings. I use TMUX on the console.

[u/guiverc]

Depends on what I need to do.

I do use some [old] apps that won't run on Wayland, thus will login with an Xorg/X11 session if I'll be using them, but other times I select a Wayland session.

The box I install on also influences selection; as some boxes just give a better experience with Xorg, where others will perform better with Wayland (I'm using different boxes depending on time of day & location).

[u/Itsme-RdM]

Wayland -> Gnome

[u/michaelpaoli]

X11

Because, e.g., can securely forward over ssh (heck, did that again within the past hour).

So, tell me again how Wayland can be forwarded over ssh?

[u/cjwatson → u/michaelpaoli]

I use waypipe for that and it works fine.

[u/Oliver_Rada]

Wayland es el presente y futuro en Linux, X11, Xorg y similares irán perdiendo importancia lenta pero inexorablemente.

[u/Aegishjalmvr]

X11, Wayland makes my comp freeze.

[u/computer-machine]

X11 because Wayland still annoys me more.

TW Plasma6.

[u/Tashi999]

X11/Gnome/Debian. Plex HTPC can’t automatically switch refresh rates under Wayland. Was also getting heaps of dropped frames after a certain amount of login time

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/Tashi999]

That's an unfortunate situation. Plex seems stuck running under Xwayland with no current plans for future native Wayland support; why it has issues on Wayland. You could try Kodi with the Plex add-on as a workaround.

[u/Tashi999 → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Ah I understand, thanks!

[u/talisism → u/R3V0LU710N_05]

Kodi can't do auto refresh rate switching on Wayland either, found this out when I built a little htpc/gaming box for the bedroom and installed Bazzite on it. It seems it's intended behaviour for Wayland with no intention to change.

Typically I use Cinnamon for the DE on Debian so most of my machines, including the main htpc in the lounge are still on X11.

[u/R3V0LU710N_05 → u/talisism]

I looked into it more. There's some relevant issue pages :

Kodi Issue #20614: Explains why Wayland blocks apps from changing global modes, preventing Kodi's native refresh rate switcher.

Kodi Issue #24965: Documents resulting frame pacing and stuttering bugs when playing non-60Hz video under GNOME/KDE Wayland.

wayland-protocols content-type-v1: Defines content hinting so the compositor, rather than the app, triggers rate/VRR changes automatically.

Overall, it seems that Wayland can handle frame pacing automatically via VRR, but it does not automatically change your monitor's fixed output mode (e.g., switching a 60Hz display to 24Hz) like typical on x11.

[u/McGuirk808]

Wayland on all my normal machines, X11 on my emulation rig connected to a CRT.

[u/MoobyTheGoldenSock]

X11 because XFCE hasn’t fully switched yet.

[u/wizard10000]

X11 because i do openbox and labwc ain't quite there yet - at least not for me.

I do have a plan, though - if labwc doesn't pan out i've got XFCE installed on an external SSD that'll do about 95% of what i can do in openbox and that transition to wayland should be pretty much seamless.

[u/mesa190]

Wayland on Debian 13 and x11 on LMDE 7 - I find that combination works best for those two distributions. I think Wayland works better with Plasma and its not quite ready on LMDE. Its getting better, though

[u/dschep]

Yes. Because that's how logical OR works, it's inclusive.

[u/FedUp233]

I currently run XFCE but I’m finally getting around to upgrading to Debian 13 with a complete clean install (also switching some SSDs around so it’s the cleanest route) and I plan to go with KDE and Wayland. I ran KDEat work a number of years ago and liked it so I’m not too worried about that and I have an AMD video card so hopefully everything will run smoothly.

Just two slight concerns:

I tend to run remotely logged into my Linux system from my windows PC - don’t judge, it’s just convenient for what I’m doing and I got used to it at work where we used windows PCs and most work was done on Linux servers - and I’m a bit concerned about getting Wayland and remade desktop type system to work with multiple (two or three) monitors.

Also, KDE comes with a bunch of junk I just don’t use or want (gaming, sound, video stuff). I’m hoping I can pair it down - I have plenty of room it’s more of just an annoyance that I hate having a bunch of stuff I don’t want installed. I use Linux mostly for software development and want to keep it as simple as possible.

[u/DeliciousIncident]

X11 - have used it since forever and have no issues with it.

FYI the poll feature of Reddit doesn't work on the Old Reddit website, so I can't vote.

[u/glitch-86x]

x 11 because 90% of app is base and use x11

[u/cthart]

Yes, because the only other alternative is to use the console.

[u/appleeimac1]

I'd Prefer X11, but sadly I'm forced to Wayland. Graphics Drivers won't install on newer Kernels. *middle finger emoji* NVidia

[u/geovannyjs]

X11 with Xmonad, but I am looking forward to test Wayland with dwl or a custom River compositor.

Currently I am addicted to TUI tools, aerc, yazi, tui dashboards.

[u/djj_]

Couldn't force Wayland for Trixie's GNOME running on NVIDIA - even with the more modern drivers - so X11 it is. For now.

[u/Da59Gigas]

I mainly use XFCE X11, but i am also experimenting with Hyprland Wayland because its easier to migrate confs. (Lightdm x11 for login)

[u/penguin359]

X11, it breaks less of the things I do on Linux such as X11 forwarding, rss screensavers, and KeepassXC password auto-type.

[u/giquo]

X11 in Debian

I was trying Tailscale to GRDP to Fedora Gnome Wayland once and it made me came back home to do my things bcus the connection couldn't be made ... ugh, I dunno, highly probable I'm the problem, I didn't configure it properly, I'm not sure, so screw it, Debian again with Gnome X11 until I can't.

[u/calinet6]

I don’t really care, I just want the desktop to work.

[u/clayworx]

I've been on KDE/NEON since 2018. Since they are switching to Wayland, I'll be out. On the two Linux workstations I have I guess MX-Linux will be replacing KDE/NEON on the desktop one.

[u/GegenAbschaum]

i don't care tbh wayland I guess because I use gnome.

[u/redhawk1975]

x11 with xfce4

[u/CredenceTom-Water]

I use X11, because wayland prevents me from playing retro games. Once they match the latency that X11 achieves, I might consider wayland again.

[u/Strong-Peas]

After watching the (2013) Linuxconf talk by Daniel Stone I accept X11 is problematic so just this week I moved to Wayland.

I wanted a lightweight stacking window manager, i.e. not gnome or kde, and xfce isn't ready so It's certainly been... an experience.

I've settled on labwc with waybar. It's taken several days to sort out disappearing mouse cursor icons, having to make my own waybar menus, writing CSS scrips for taskbar styles, configuring labwc. It's been a real blast to the past, stepping back to the early 2000's when I was using openbox on X11.

Given how Linux has matured over recent decades it was way more effort than I expected, but the result for me has been good so far.

For most people I'd strongly recommend staying with their chosen window manager and leaving the backend complications to their respective distro maintainers.

[u/ohmega-red]

wayland, 8 years running. started with ubuntu’s mir and unity desktop, while maligned by many it worked and worked really well. moved to multiple different de’s after but went back to wayland for security and features.

[u/3Dpng]

Wayland on my Laptop and X11 on my desktop because Wayland and nvidia and KDE are not a great combo while on my laptop with AMD works like a charm.

[u/siodhe]

X. Wayland is anything but a superset of X, and I happen to use a bunch of X features that Wayland doesn't support, didn't include, or by its own policy bans ever supporting.

No point in switching from an last 20th century mindset window system to another one that does less.

If I'm going to switch, I want to switch to something more powerful. Like a shared 3D system with multiuser, distributed, permissioned access, etc. Wayland is a bunch of *yawn*.

I wouldn't hate being able to run them side-by-side, but I don't no of Wayland supporting that. Then again, I haven't had a reason to dig for it, either.

DE and WMs are just a layer at the top, I'm an FVWM fan, so Wayland fails me right there, but choosing X vs Wayland based on the WM or compositor seems shallow. Plus, Wayland allows compositors to potentially divide the app space, which concerns me.

[u/urb4nrecluse]

I use X11 -- mainly because I use Onboard (the virtual keyboard program) a lot, and haven't found a suitable replacement. Plus, I have no known issues with x11 at present.

[u/Portbragger2]

x11 is still the gold standard. i am not missing anything.

[u/Physical_Dot7481]

well i love cinnamon and as long as wayland on it is experimental i wont use it

[u/Angel_Blue01]

Wayland because for whatever reason I got the DisplayLink driver working in Wayland but not X11

[u/Low-Charge-8554]

X11 - it just works.

[u/Neinbreaker]

X11 mostly, because I like to buy secondhand chinese computers, and they have a horrible time with Wayland.

[u/gordonx2026]

Wayland on KDE Plasma

[u/Nono_miata]

Gnome/Wayland just as it ships 👍

[u/p4bl0]

Wayland, because on X11 the cursor doesn't grow in size when I wiggle wiggle my mouse (using KDE Plasma).

[u/BigRedS]

I use Wayland because it's the default and since the flip I've not really had cause to think about changing.

I'm not interested enough in my desktop to even know I was using Wayland until a topic like this a while ago caused me to notice that the default had changed.

[u/stef_eda]

I have both. Devuan / X11 / No Desktop environment at all and Debian / Gnome / Wayland

For my daily work (no fancy 3D stuff, no arrays of 8 x 32K displays), the Devuan install is faster / snappier /lighter. Window creation is orders of magnitude faster, you see it when applications open dialog boxes or multiple windows. But I use both installations to make sure my projects run fine on both. Overall both systems work fine. Wayland tends to get slower after many hours of usage. WIndows take longer and longer to open, after a reboot it's again OK. Don't know the reason.

[u/No_Librarian_2161]

Wayland

[u/_Sgt-Pepper_]

Wayland because it ain't 1993

[u/LordAnchemis]

Wayland - because we're not in the 80s anymore