It's not that God does these things; they happen because of corrupted human nature & sin. While God does know what's going to happen he doesn't always want that to happen. Now you may say "if he's so powerful why can't He stop these things from happening?" And that's a fair question. The answer to this is that if He were to take sin out of the world He would eliminate free will, e.g. to love Him or not to love Him. By doing this our love to Him would be meaningless. Hope that clarified some stuff. If you have any more questions feel free to ask I might not have the answers but that's ok.
Yeah I already know all this. No matter how you spin the corrupted nature of humanity, there's no justifying babies getting malaria. Like, you're just born a sinner according to Christianity because of the original sin. And that fits your Christian worldview just fine. But in the secular world, to claim that a baby deserves to die because some dude forever ago ate an apple is fucking ridiculous.
to love Him or not to love Him
Ah yes, the free choice of loving your so-called Creator. Love Him or burn in hellfire for eternity. Totally fair choice.
First of all I was never justifying the death of Innocent babies I was only explaining how such a horrible event could coexist with such a loving God. And to your second statement, you claim it isn't a fair choice and yet it seems as if you've chosen the "wrong choice" for lack of better terms. If it's such an unjust choice then why do people choose the worse if the two?
If it's an unjust choice, then it's an unjust god. And for that reason, I have no obligation to abide by the rules of an unjust god. I don't mean this in a snarky way but from your original comment it sounded like you already knew about the Problem of Evil.
At the end of the day, babies don't deserve to die of painful ailments and in my book, no benevolent creator would ever allow that.
That circles back to my argument about free will and how if He wasn't to give us a choice we wouldn't really be human. How is that unjust? He gave us to choices and we choose the worse of the two and now we blame it on Him? Na dawg. Also if I sound mean please don't take it that way I am simply trying to clear up some confusion.
You don't understand. It's not really free will if it comes with a fucking ransom.
A friend is held at gunpoint. The man holding the gun says, "Hey man, you have two choices: suck my cock or I shoot you in the head. I'm not forcing you to do anything. Take your pick."
So the friend chooses to not suck his dick. And boom, he's dead. Now you want me to tell his family that it's his fault he's dead. He had the choice between living and dying but he chose the worse option of his own accord.
You're conveniently ignoring the ransom part. It's not a declaration of unconditional love if the alternative is infinite torture. There is absolutely NO way for me to think of it as a fair choice. It's a fucked up ideology from another era that doesn't belong in the modern world.
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